Obama - not liked internationally?

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

I would guess, based upon Gores' statements and actions in the past, he wouldn't have pulled a Bush and ignored the warning about Sept 11 in the first place.

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Yeah, we all know how tough Gore's boss (Clinton) was on Bin Laden.. and that 9/11 planning occured on Both Clinton/Gore and Bush/Cheney watch.

another completely ignorant statement by riot.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

Yeah, we all know how tough Gore's boss (Clinton) was on Bin Laden.. and that 9/11 planning occured on Both Clinton/Gore and Bush/Cheney watch.

another completely ignorant statement by riot.

LOL - Not as ignorant as you saying Gore would behave based upon how Bill Clinton did.

Seriously - when you guys attack another poster in politics personally and call names (because you can't talk subject matter objectively) it really helps if you're not actually demonstrating the behavior you are accusing the other person of doing at the time you make the accusation.

BTW, Clinton seriously warned Bush about bin Laden, didn't he? And Bush just dropped that ball. Repeatedly.

Get real Facts matter.

[Antitrust32]

Clinton should have done his job and got bin Laden when he had the opportunity.

again, the only thing dems and riot have to go on is blaming bush.

"So we tried to be quite aggressive with them [al Qaeda]. We got – well, Mr. bin Laden used to live in Sudan. He was expelled from Saudi Arabia in 1991, then he went to Sudan. And we’d been hearing that the Sudanese wanted America to start dealing with them again. They released him. At the time, 1996, he had committed no crime against America, so I did not bring him here because we had no basis on which to hold him, though we knew he wanted to commit crimes against America. So I pleaded with the Saudis to take him, ’cause they could have. But they thought it was a hot potato and they didn’t and that’s how he wound up in Afghanistan."

this is a direct quote from Bill Clinton himself.

[Riot]

Antitrust32;897974]Clinton should have done his job and got bin Laden when he had the opportunity.

again, the only thing dems and riot have to go on is blaming bush

Nobody is "blaming Bush" for anything. Don't insert talking points that don't even apply

The premise of this part of the thread was that voting matters. Elections matter.

Example: Gore won the popular vote, but the Supreme Court stopped the vote re-count while Gore was ahead in the count, and made Bush the winner of the election.

Elections have consequences. Thousands dead in Iraq, sent there by Bush. Those are facts. Bush did that. That's not "blame", that's just reality.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

Don't insert talking points that don't even apply

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did you.... the queen... really just say this!!

wow!

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Riot

Elections have consequences.

We know. We're still suffering them, and the healing begins when Romney wins on November 6th.

[Antitrust32]

the American Government... composed of democrats and republicans alike, and led by george bush, sent the troops to Iraq. It's been a bipartisan war.


But you knew that.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by joeydb

We know. We're still suffering them, and the healing begins when Romney wins on November 6th.

You seem so confident. How come you didn't take Riot up on her offer yesterday?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

did you.... the queen... really just say this!!

wow!

Yes, I see you don't really want to talk about why elections matter, you rather want to start personal fights with people you dislike.

Carry on without me.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

Yes, I see you don't really want to talk about why elections matter, you rather want to start personal fights with people you dislike.

Carry on without me.

carrying on without you is the only reason i might vote Romney for President.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

You seem so confident. How come you didn't take Riot up on her offer yesterday?

I'll also hazard a guess that, after Obama wins, all we'll hear from certain members of this board is "but Romney was way ahead! The Democrats stole the election!"

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

carrying on without you is the only reason i might vote Romney for President.

Because voting out of personal spite you have against a person you don't know on an internet message board, voting for a man who says you do not deserve the rights I have and will actively work to keep you there without those rights, is so intelligent?

Yeah - if you are going to vote out of personal spite against a stranger, rather than for the candidate you think will best represent your interests, please, stay home with the rest of the non-voters. You don't deserve to exercise the franchise.

Don't worry - I'm voting for your rights. Maybe you'll be lucky and retain them, in spite of voting against yourself.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

You seem so confident. How come you didn't take Riot up on her offer yesterday?

I like to gamble on horses. This banishment thing is not my kind of game. Kind of puts a negative spin on what should be free-wheeling discussion. But they are all adults and willing participants who thought of it on their own, so if that's what the want to do, have at it.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

Because voting out of personal spite you have against a person you don't know on an internet message board, voting for a man who says you do not deserve the rights I have and will actively work to keep you there, is so intelligent?

honestly, it is BY FAR the best reason to vote for either Romney or Obama given in this entire election process.

[Antitrust32]

the banishment of Riot will have a much greater affect on my day to day life than who is elected in November... especially since i believe romney and obama to be one in the same.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

the banishment of Riot will have a much greater affect on my day to day life than who is elected in November... especially since i believe romney and obama to be one in the same.

If you honestly conflate not reading a poster you don't like on an internet board with being the same as losing your right to marry who you choose ... God help this country.

Snooki wins.

And if you think Obama and Romney are "one and the same"?

Yeah. This is why we are an international laughing stock during the Palin-Romney years. Only an American, comfortably not worried about a thing past the end of their nose, would deliberately vote for the man who says she is an abomination that must be prevented from existing.

Dear God.

[Antitrust32]

which right will i retain if Obama wins?? please explain.

the right to have an abortion? not applicable to myself personally. Plus i guarantee 100% that abortion laws will not change in this country if Romney is elected.

the right to get married? first off, nothing to retain there as DOMA is still in effect. Plus, I live in florida.. not happening whether romney or obama is elected.

DADT? Repubs might talk about it.. but that law wont be changing.

Just like Obamacare wont be rescinded even if Romney wins.

Bunch of rhetoric people get caught up in.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

If you honestly conflate not reading a poster you don't like on an internet board with being the same as losing your right to marry who you choose ... God help this country.
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This is a first..

hey guess what everyone.. Gays and Lesbians are free to get married and be recognized legally by our federal government in Florida!!!


learn something new everyday.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

which right will i retain if Obama wins?? please explain

the right to have an abortion? not applicable to myself personally. Plus i guarantee 100% that abortion laws will not change in this country if Romney is elected.

the right to get married? first off, nothing to retain there as DOMA is still in effect. Plus, I live in florida.. not happening whether romney or obama is elected.

DADT? Repubs might talk about it.. but that law wont be changing.

Just like Obamacare wont be rescinded even if Romney wins.

Bunch of rhetoric people get caught up in.

Yes. You're right. They are all the same. Why bother yourself about preserving American democracy, such as the rights of gays to serve in the military, of blacks to vote, of you to have an abortion if it doesn't personally apply to you?

[Antitrust32]

Palin-Romney years???

you mean the years that Obama has been president.

invisible man in the sky... please help this riot.