romney rules in iowa

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by bigrun

Did he mention the 50K cars and 50" flat screen tvs?

You realize Obama bought 2 piece of shiat Volts for $150K for the Venice Consulate and then ran out of money for Lybian security.

Kind of how you must have budgeted back in the day.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

You realize Obama bought 2 piece of shiat Volts for $150K for the Venice Consulate and then ran out of money for Lybian security.

Kind of how you must have budgeted back in the day.

lol

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Riot

Meanwhile, the right is still getting pimped by Alex Jones making up fake Twitter accounts and posting "dis nigga gonna riot if Obama loses!"

This post is a new low, even for you. Like the candidates, most of your posts are half-truths. But this post isn't even a half-truth. This is a 100% lie. There is not a shred of evidence that the tweets are fake. Where did you come up with such an accusation? Please provide even an iota of evidence that supports your accusation.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

This post is a new low, even for you. Like the candidates, most of your posts are half-truths. But this post isn't even a half-truth. This is a 100% lie. There is not a shred of evidence that the tweets are fake. Where did you come up with such an accusation? Please provide even an iota of evidence that supports your accusation.

She only has 6 days left - she's getting her money's worth I imagine

[Dahoss]

I'm probably in the minority but I'll take Riot over the Rupert any day.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Do you have any evidence that the threats came from phony Twitter accounts?

Yes. Go to Twitter, and click on the accounts. Look at who their followers are, and who follows who, and the activity. See who "broke the story" first, and who then picked it up. Troll accounts are pretty common and very obvious on Twitter.

You can also search on "riot Obama". Oh, so many threats! LOL!

That said, threats against Obama, Romney, the Old Man in the Sea are also pretty common on social media. Just copy it to @secretservice and they take care of it

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

She only has 6 days left - she's getting her money's worth I imagine

You want in on the bet? Yes or no? You willing to put your money where your mouth is? I already have, twice. Can you step up to that? Or are you just mouth?

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Riot

Yes. Go to Twitter, and click on the accounts. Look at who their followers are, and who follows who, and the activity. See who "broke the story" first, and who then picked it up. Troll accounts are pretty common and very obvious on Twitter.

You can also search on "riot Obama". Oh, so many threats! LOL!

That said, threats against Obama, Romney, the Old Man in the Sea are also pretty common on social media. Just copy it to @secretservice and they take care of it

I read that several of the threats were from people that had been on Twitter for years and had a couple of thousand posts.

I would be suspect of any posts that were from brand new people. But if the posts are from people with a long history then there would be no reason to think they're fake.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I read that several of the threats were from people that had been on Twitter for years and had a couple of thousand posts.

Well, you can either read what you are supposed to think, or look for yourself.

The question is: is there actually some massive plan movement among millions of Obama supporters to start riots if he loses?

That would be ... no.

But boy, it sure whistles loudly to a certain segment of the country

Who posted this first? Alex Jones.

Where did it go from there - with zero further vetting? Drudge, Breitbart - all the usual hysterical conspiracy sites.

So, it's probably about equal, based upon factual evidence, if all the posters are "real", that 20 or so Romney supporters would start mass riots, if he loses, as 20 or so Obama supporters would if he loses.

[dylbert]

Originally Posted by Riot

Oh, my, we need all you guys to take your election predictions to the contest thread

Great thing, Riot, you only have one vote. Looks like this contest is trending sharply toward Romney.

When your campaign unravels, it just unravels. Yes, Obama has looked presidential in wake of Sandy disaster. Incumbant enjoys that privilege as office holder. He can pledge the public coffers to assist recovery efforts, too. That's his job!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dylbert

Great thing, Riot, you only have one vote. Looks like this contest is trending sharply toward Romney.

When your campaign unravels, it just unravels. Yes, Obama has looked presidential in wake of Sandy disaster. Incumbant enjoys that privilege as office holder. He can pledge the public coffers to assist recovery efforts, too. That's his job!

If you think Romney will win, put up your total Here's the link: http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/sho...t=48857&page=3

Rude posted a Rasmussen poll today (Ras is notably right leaning), though, that says Obama wins with over 330 electoral votes.

Just sayin'

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Riot

Well, you can either read what you are supposed to think, or look for yourself.

The question is: is there actually some massive plan movement among millions of Obama supporters to start riots if he loses?

That would be ... no.

But boy, it sure whistles loudly to a certain segment of the country

Who posted this first? Alex Jones.

Where did it go from there - with zero further vetting? Drudge, Breitbart - all the usual hysterical conspiracy sites.

So, it's probably about equal, based upon factual evidence, if all the posters are "real", that 20 or so Romney supporters would start mass riots, if he loses, as 20 or so Obama supporters would if he loses.

I don't think there is a plan amongst millions of Obama supporters to riot. But I do think there are some gang member types out there who are planning on it. If Obama wins, we will never find out who is right. If Romney wins, we will see who is right. If Romney does win, I hope that I am wrong. I hope there are no riots. But if Romney does win, I will be shocked if there isn't at least some rioting in certain areas. There are people out there who just look for an excuse to riot.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I don't think there is a plan amongst millions of Obama supporters to riot. But I do think there are some gang member types out there who are planning on it. If Obama wins, we will never find out who is right. If Romney wins, we will see who is right. If Romney does win, I hope that I am wrong. I hope there are no riots. But if Romney does win, I will be shocked if there isn't at least some rioting in certain areas. There are people out there who just look for an excuse to riot.

I completely agree with you that all sorts of people, from black inner city gang members to good old country boys drunk in pickups with shotguns to anarchists in New York will take advantage, if they can, to create havoc.

Wasn't there just another sports riot the other day with the World Series winner? (sorry, yes, I did not pay attention) Point being people take advantage.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Riot

I completely agree with you that all sorts of people, from black inner city gang members to good old country boys drunk in pickups with shotguns to anarchists in New York will take advantage, if they can, to create havoc.

Wasn't there just another sports riot the other day with the World Series winner? (sorry, yes, I did not pay attention) Point being people take advantage.

I was listening to some urban talk radio show the other day and the host was saying that she was worried that the republicans are going to steal the election. She is just fanning the flames. I thought it was really irresponsible. I hope there aren't too many DJs on these stations saying things like this. If you convince people that the election was stolen, they are going to be much more likely to riot.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I was listening to some urban talk radio show the other day and the host was saying that she was worried that the republicans are going to steal the election. She is just fanning the flames. I thought it was really irresponsible. I hope there aren't too many DJs on these stations saying things like this. If you convince people that the election was stolen, they are going to be much more likely to riot.

Yes, that is fanning the flames.

There is plenty of documented voter intimidation (True the Vote, billboards) but that is all being investigated and pretty apparent.

There is concern about Romney family owning part of the company that supplies the voter machines in Texas and Ohio, but that's probably just hysteria.

There was a reporter who tried to early vote in Texas this week, using his utility bill (legal voter ID) and the poll worker wouldn't let him vote, until he made a fuss and got a supervisor. They didn't know he could vote without a drivers license, which is just wrong. What if that was a spanish-speaking person, or someone who didn't know the poll workers were wrong on the voting law? They would have left without voting.

There are currently cases of people in early voting states who have voted by mail having their votes being discarded without their knowledge or further comment because signatures "don't match" the signature on the voting rolls.

There have been thousands of voters taken off voting rolls in various states illegally in purges, and that has been pursued at the state level and via lawsuit by DOJ and ACLU.

It just came to light that the Romney pollworkers in Wisconsin were being taught things as pollworkers (regarding ID) that was not legally true. They were just given wrong information. And they were told to arrive at the polls and register as "independent" observers, rather than "republican" workers. That doesn't breed trust, especially in an imported state like Wisconsin.

There is the long history of the first mayor Daley of Chicago, which has tarred and feathered every other Democrat since in the minds of the shallow regarding "union thugs" and "dead voters", etc.

The problem is the 2000 election has made everyone distrustful: Gore won Florida. Gore won the popular vote. But the Supreme Court stopped the count and gave the election to Bush via electoral college. In retrospect, yes, I think that election was "stolen" (and I voted for Bush!)

Have the FBI voter intimidate number with you, go to the polls, and vote. And don't let backwater jerks as polling workers stop you. Know your state voting laws.

[dylbert]

Nice rant is previous post. I would add that Supreme Court saved US from Al Gore as president.

And in six more days, this thread is irrelevant...

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dylbert

Nice rant is previous post. I would add that Supreme Court saved US from Al Gore as president.

And in six more days, this thread is irrelevant...

Wow. If you think my post was a "rant", you don't have much grasp of reality.

Do you think the electoral college should be removed in favor of popular vote win? Yes or no?

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Riot

Yes, that is fanning the flames.

There is plenty of documented voter intimidation (True the Vote, billboards) but that is all being investigated and pretty apparent.

There is concern about Romney family owning part of the company that supplies the voter machines in Texas and Ohio, but that's probably just hysteria.

There was a reporter who tried to early vote in Texas this week, using his utility bill (legal voter ID) and the poll worker wouldn't let him vote, until he made a fuss and got a supervisor. They didn't know he could vote without a drivers license, which is just wrong. What if that was a spanish-speaking person, or someone who didn't know the poll workers were wrong on the voting law? They would have left without voting.

There are currently cases of people in early voting states who have voted by mail having their votes being discarded without their knowledge or further comment because signatures "don't match" the signature on the voting rolls.

There have been thousands of voters taken off voting rolls in various states illegally in purges, and that has been pursued at the state level and via lawsuit by DOJ and ACLU.

It just came to light that the Romney pollworkers in Wisconsin were being taught things as pollworkers (regarding ID) that was not legally true. They were just given wrong information. And they were told to arrive at the polls and register as "independent" observers, rather than "republican" workers. That doesn't breed trust, especially in an imported state like Wisconsin.

There is the long history of the first mayor Daley of Chicago, which has tarred and feathered every other Democrat since in the minds of the shallow regarding "union thugs" and "dead voters", etc.

The problem is the 2000 election has made everyone distrustful: Gore won Florida. Gore won the popular vote. But the Supreme Court stopped the count and gave the election to Bush via electoral college. In retrospect, yes, I think that election was "stolen" (and I voted for Bush!)

Have the FBI voter intimidate number with you, go to the polls, and vote. And don't let backwater jerks as polling workers stop you. Know your state voting laws.

I totally disagree with you about Florida in 2000. Bush won Florida. Gore tried to steal it. Some members of the all Democratic Florida Supreme Court tried to help him steal it. They were going to keep tampering with those ballots until Gore had more votes. Luckily the US Supreme Court put an end to it.

I don't know if you remember but even democratic judges in Florida said the election was over and Bush won. But then Gore would appeal to the Florida Supreme Court. All 7 Justices on the Fla. Supreme Court were democrats and the Court kept overturning every decision and ruling in favor of Gore. Their rulings weren't even unanimous in any of their pro-Gore rulings. There were a couple of Democrats on the Florida Supreme Court who said the election was over and Bush won, but they got out-voted by the other partisan democrats on the Court each time that Gore would appeal to them.

People talk about the US Supreme Court being partisan in their ruling. What about the Florida Supreme Court? That court was a joke. Even a couple of the Democrats on that Court thought it was disgraceful what they were doing.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I totally disagree with you about Florida in 2000. Bush won Florida. Gore tried to steal it. Some members of the all Democratic Florida Supreme Court tried to help him steal it. They were going to keep tampering with those ballots until Gore had more votes. Luckily the US Supreme Court put an end to it.

I don't know if you remember but even democratic judges in Florida said the election was over and Bush won. But then Gore would appeal to the Florida Supreme Court. All 7 Justices on the Fla. Supreme Court were democrats and the Court kept overturning every decision and ruling in favor of Gore. Their rulings weren't even unanimous in any of their pro-Gore rulings. There were a couple of Democrats on the Florida Supreme Court who said the election was over and Bush won, but they got out-voted by the other partisan democrats on the Court each time that Gore would appeal to them.

People talk about the US Supreme Court being partisan in their ruling. What about the Florida Supreme Court? That court was a joke. Even a couple of the Democrats on that Court thought it was disgraceful what they were doing.

Yes, I remember what the Democrats were doing. I'm a Republican, and voted for Bush, remember?

As I said - in retrospect, I've changed my opinion. Gore has more votes in the official election record.

The election was noteworthy for a controversy over the awarding of Florida's 25 electoral votes, the subsequent recount process in that state, and the unusual event of the winning candidate having received fewer popular votes than the runner-up.[2] This marked only the fourth election in U.S. History in which the eventual winner failed to win a plurality of the popular vote (after the elections of 1824, 1876, and 1888). Later research showed that by the standards requested by the Gore campaign in their contest brief or by the partial statewide recount set by the Florida Supreme Court, Bush would have likely won the recount anyway.[3] However, the same research indicates that had the statewide recount included all uncounted votes (overvotes as well as undervotes), as seems probable based on later statements by the judge overseeing the recount and supported by faxes made public in November, 2001, Gore would have won the election.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Romney 51% Obama 45% in FL, by the most recent polling done in the state across the spectrum of the population, not just one historically liberal county:

http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/the-bu...ey-51-obama-45