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 It is a much needed vacation.Last edited by kentuckyrosesinmay : 10-02-2006 at 10:34 AM.
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10-02-2006, 10:51 AM
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the Beyer seems a little inflated to me
they are two very good 3 y/o's it would be sporting of the Shaw to enter both in BCC I'd like to see a Volponi type win damn did PG pass? I must have missed that
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10-02-2006, 10:54 AM
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10-02-2006, 11:37 AM
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You know, my doctors in Danville misdiagnosed me with rheumatoid arthritis. I went to Duke and all my tests were negative and normal. The doctor at Duke literally diagnosed me with stress from not being able to ride my horses due to college. That's crazy, but he's the expert. Well, maybe that's what I am trying to run to...wherever the horses are is where I will most likely end up.
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10-02-2006, 11:48 AM
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You think it will be better, but when you get to a place where you have very few friends and family, you'll miss what you were running from to begin with.
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10-02-2006, 12:13 PM
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Don't get me wrong, I looooove my family. But I love them even more from a distance.  Kentucky, if you're supposed to be someplace else, you'll know it when you get out. And if you're not, you'll figure that out, too. I guess it's just different for each person. Cajun, are you still pretty close to where you grew up? And so I'm not totally off thread-- I'd be happy to see DC in the Cigar Mile... give me another excuse (reason) to go to Aqueduct in the winter.
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10-02-2006, 12:22 PM
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Nah, NC isn't a bad state, but I like traveling and experiencing new things. I'm a very restless person. My little sister is just like me, and she just took off for the Navy. She is in boot camp right now. We both want to see the world.
I won't miss not having a racetrack in NC, or the fact that I live an hour away from the closest stable. However, I know that I will get lonely sometimes and will miss my family. Luckily, I can always come back. I've only lived in NC for about three years, and most of my family and friends live over an hour away from me. Besides my mom, I don't get to see them very much because of my hectic schedule. I don't miss where I used to live in VA one bit. I'm going to follow my dreams, and they aren't going to happen here in NC. Like I said, I'm not running away from NC, but am following my heart. Right now, I feel like I am boxed in because I'm tied down at this community college and I have to graduate in May so that I can go to a four year school. I want to go find my dream job in the racing business, and I'll do what it takes to achieve my goals.
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10-02-2006, 12:55 PM
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I agree it would be fun to see him somewhere on BC day, but the Classic would fit him best IMO...If they turned him back to six furlongs after going a mile, I'm not sure I'd like him as much as progressing in distance...Don't get me wrong, he could win the Sprint because of his natural high cruising speed, but i think it would be a much harder race for him because any misfortune is hard to overcome in that race because it is a full field of horses blitzing the entire way...the Mile will be the same way...horses that win those two races are ones who can overcome some sort of obstacles and since Discreet Cat hasn't been tested yet this year I would question how he'd handle having to go too wwde, race too fast early, or get stopped and wait for a hole to open, etc. in a race of that caliber...it usually requires some luck and a battle-tested horse on top of being good to win those two races....positioning in the 1 1/4-mile Classic is so much easier, as is the pace scenario and room for error.... I think if they run him in the BC Classic that he will be no worse than second behind his stablemate...i really think so.....his dam won the 1 1/4-mile Alabama at Saratoga when she was 3 and she is by stamina influence Private Account - so I think the classic disatnce won't be an issue...he has already embarrassed horses like Simpatico Bribon, Invasor, etc.going 1 1/8 miles in the UAE Derby.... My best guess is that they do run him in the Cigar Mile at AQU and go back to Dubai and run him in the WOrld Cup against Bernardini in a World Cup that would actually be worth watching for once in the last few years IMO..There was originally talk of hin shipping to Churchill DOwns to train ad actually pre-entering in the Classic ONLY as a back up if something were to happen to Bernardini to cause him to defect at the last minute....Also, Discreet Cat would run in the 1 1/8-mile Clark (G1) at Churchill Downs later in October since he would be on the grounds as a BC Classic back-up.... But i guess the Cigar Mile looks like the likely spot now...I think by hearing their logic that they belive that he is at his best a Miler, which they may be right about that.... Whatever the hell he is, he is a freak and i'm just glad horse racing enthusiests like ourselves have a chance to see horses of this magnitude run....you know, say what you will about the Shieks, but the bottomline is that they have the money and love for racing to keep horses like Bernardini and DC in training for a while because they could care less about getting that Huge stallion deal....money is no object, that is why in a way this is a good thing that they own the best horses in the world...it gives our sport a better chance to create stars and an identity in the mainstream IMO.... I'll say this, i is VERY clear to me that DC has and willhave some serious health issues at some point probably in the near future....he is NOT a pretty mover at all....so if you enjoy watching him run, be glad the Sheiks have him because they wil get him right and keep running him as long as it is nothing really bad and controllable with time.....Think about if some ownership like Cash is King owned the horse and he had the LEAST little thing go wrong with him....he would be retired and sold to a stud farm in a heart beat....thyat is a fact.. Another interesting theory to chew on is this: I would bet that DC is worse off health wise right now than Afleet Alex ever was when they retired him.....not knocking those guys..just an example I chose to use....the Sheiks have the non-money-driven interest in our sport that will keep DC in the game well beyond any other owner would...that you can be sure of...
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10-02-2006, 01:02 PM
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10-02-2006, 01:06 PM
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And Joel, please, stop reiterating that Pretty Discreet won the Alabama as though that gives Discreet Cat distance breeding. Do you remember that Alabama?
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10-02-2006, 01:14 PM
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A prime example is Discreet Cat.....if MOST American trainers had him (I won't mention names), DC would have been thrust into the Derby...Hell, the Shieks would have probably dne that too a few years ago...But now they are more disciplined because they have learned that if you do right by the horse that things will usually play out the best way for you in the long run.... You cannot acuse them of being bad horsemen...thats for sure...they have not always done the smartest things considering the capital they invest (Coolmore out-managed them for YAESR with less oney invested) but they are getting better and smarter now... Part of the reason they also didn't have the level of success that other big owners had for a long time was because they didn't cheat....I commend their honesty and it is paying dividends now...
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10-02-2006, 01:17 PM
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He CRUISED in the 1 1/8-mile UAE Derby over some pretty heavy hitters, and I coud care less how she did it, she is a PRIVATE ACCOUNT....there are very few more stamina-laden influences in our game.....I believe Discreet Cat is the best horse in the world around one turn and that Bernardini is the best horse in the world around two turns - thus I think the further they go the more advantage Bernardini has over DC (1 1/4 miles), but I rerally believe DC is classy enough to still be second in the BC Classic - even if it isn't his best distance....
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10-02-2006, 01:20 PM
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When you figure out how Testimony finished six lengths behind Discreet Cat, and two lengths in front of Invasor, let me know.
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10-02-2006, 01:26 PM
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Bernadini has been annoited way too early. If you see something special in his ability to warrant this kind of assessment, tell us exactly what it is. He has yet to be pushed. Until a horse is pushed by COMPETETION, I withhold judgement unless I see something physically clear about his running mechanics that makes him superior.
LITF showed me some clear mechanical signs. So did Mineshaft. I can tell you exactly what I saw. Smarty Jones, I saw a great runner by the way he ran the Belmont, mechanically, the aforementioned were better to my eye than Smarty. What are Bernardini's mechanics that warrent the adulation, cause he has yet to be pushed?
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10-02-2006, 01:27 PM
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I don't know Joel about Afleet Alex. Afleet Alex's injury was pretty bad. I think that they had every intention of running him until he experienced that condylar fracture. I believe that the screw did him in. I think that they knew in the back of their minds that he was finished when he suffered that injury, and tried to bring him back to please the public. It was the best thing for Alex to retire him. I would have retired him too . It came to my attention in hindsight that the horse was mismanaged a little bit, and probably had some minor issues going on that turned into a big issue. I don't know about Cash is King's other horses...
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10-02-2006, 01:27 PM
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I'm not saying he doesn't necessarily have some distance in his pedigree, but to say about Pretty Discreet's Alabama victory, which YOU have cited more than once to argue Discreet Cat's distance pedigree, " you could care less how she did it " is ridiculous and, frankly, beneath you. Or, I suppose, you think Conquistador Cielo's wire to wire romp in the mud in the Belmont Stakes solidified him as a true mile and a half horse. Ya know, even Godolphin has expressed serious concerns about his distance limitations....and I KNOW you care what they think.
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10-02-2006, 01:33 PM
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The only thing that was good about that Alabama win was that it caused a monster carryover at the Spa. Other than that I'd have to say it may have been the worst edition in history.
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