Trivia

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Trainer Shug McGaughey hit the board in 5 consecutive Travers Stakes, the last two being wins with Easy Goer and Rhythm. Who were the three horses who hit the board before those wins?

1986 - Personal Flag

1987 - Polish Navy

1988 - Seeking the Gold

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

1986 - Personal Flag

1987 - Polish Navy

1988 - Seeking the Gold

Very nice.
He has three wins and hes a bad trip(Personal Flag was moving like a winner before being clobbered by Broad Brush) and Pat Day's worst ride in grade one history(Seeking The Gold's ride has to be seen to be believed, strangled back behind a crawling pace and missed by a head bob while running his last 1/4 mile in a shade under 22:4!!!) from having 5 wins.

[blackthroatedwind]

I loved Personal Flag, and bet him in that Traver's and Haskell ( probably still the Monmouth Invitational ), but he found his own trouble more often than not.

Here is one for you...

What horse holds the record for most consecutive 2nd place finishes?

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Here is one for you...

What horse holds the record for most consecutive 2nd place finishes?

Most I ever saw was My Friend Bernie. He was an ATM machine.
First 200 straight exacta I ever hit was with him at Saratoga underneath a Hertler horse named Devils Cry that Rafael Mojica Jr rode, it was the 4th race on a Saturday and I had to sweat an inquiry or claim of foul against the winner.
I think Bernie was 2nd like 14 times in a row, something close to that.

[blackthroatedwind]

So I guess Jacques Who is out?

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Name Groovy's first trainer.

Jose Martin...recently passed away...RIP

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

So I guess Jacques Who is out?

Oh shoot!!! i remember him!! Wow, he may have Bernie beat.
I'm very interested in this.
Nocrow was another famous hanger who ran 2nd in NY bred maiden races a ridiculous number of times before Cordero finally got her home one day in the 9th race. Of course she came back and won her very next start which also incited an incredible outburst of profanity.

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

Jose Martin...recently passed away...RIP

Wrong sir.
Mervin "magoo" Marks.

[Cajungator26]

You guys know a lot! This thread is a great read... good idea.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Here is one for you...

What horse holds the record for most consecutive 2nd place finishes?

there was a horse in california earlier this year who had run 2nd something like 9 times in a row I think. I can't remember his name, but it was absurd.

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Wrong sir.
Mervin "magoo" Marks.

Mike,
I must have read this wrong.
http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/tod...67952&subsec=1

[saucon17]

there was a horse in california earlier this year who had run 2nd something like 9 times in a row I think. I can't remember his name, but it was absurd.

Your thinking of King Palm

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

Mike,
I must have read this wrong.
http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/tod...67952&subsec=1

You didn't read it wrong, but he wasnt the first trainer of the horse.

[Buffymommy]

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

Mike,
I must have read this wrong.
http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/tod...67952&subsec=1

Maybe he wasn't Groovy's FIRST trainer.

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

there was a horse in california earlier this year who had run 2nd something like 9 times in a row I think. I can't remember his name, but it was absurd.

That horse is owned my the Maloof (I think that is there name) brothers.

[blackthroatedwind]

I think Groovy may have had a few trainers before Jose Martin. It's pretty amazing he ran in the Derby.

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by oracle80

You didn't read it wrong, but he wasnt the first trainer of the horse.

OK...I'm humbled...missed "first".

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I think Groovy may have had a few trainers before Jose Martin. It's pretty amazing he ran in the Derby.

I know its hard to believe, but Magoo was his first trainer.
Noone ever gets that one right.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by oracle80

I know its hard to believe, but Magoo was his first trainer.
Noone ever gets that one right.

It's not hard to believe. He had horses back then and was more than a little shrewd with a young horse.

There are a lot of good trainers from 20 years ago that disappeared.