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[philcski]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Dammit, I'm talking about the boonies in relativity, people! My point is that in order for night racing to work, you're going to have to attract people from outside of Queens, and I don't know anyone whose eyes light up at the thought of journeying out to Elmont or Ozone Park.

And yes, the Meadowlands is in the middle of nowhere. If the complex weren't there, why would anyone go to East Rutherford?

Elmont, yes. Ozone Park... no.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by philcski

Elmont, yes. Ozone Park... no.

Next time I'm in the city, I'll try to organize a nighttime trip to Elmont, and I'll report back with the results.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Next time I'm in the city, I'll try to organize a nighttime trip to Elmont, and I'll report back with the results.

If there's beer involved, count me in.

[ARyan]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Dammit, I'm talking about the boonies in relativity, people! My point is that in order for night racing to work, you're going to have to attract people from outside of Queens, and I don't know anyone whose eyes light up at the thought of journeying out to Elmont or Ozone Park.

And yes, the Meadowlands is in the middle of nowhere. If the complex weren't there, why would anyone go to East Rutherford?

Once the Devils move, unless I have a horse running there in the small throughbred meet they have, you won't see this guy there.

[Downthestretch55]

I'm probably going to get slammed for this, but I'll say it anyway.
I agree with Steve about the take-out.
I also agree with Cannon about what he said in his starting post.

So, here's what I suggest (and realize that I think "outside the box").

Instead of bringing people to the track with incentives, give away days, or to an OTB (right, what a nice environment!), New York racing should televise the races at the meet on their own channel (for home use, work a cable deal), and allow internet gambling to their web site. This will generate interest, increase handle, and make participation much more convenient.
Heck, they could even provide live racing via broadband from their web site and maintain bettor accounts online. This will also flag "problem gamblers".
Sure, people will still go to the tracks for the video games and the slots. That's not bad at all, as IMHO it increases purses.
The key is to increase interest, participation, and convenience. By making the horse racing experience more accessible, I think it might be a positive approach.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Next time I'm in the city, I'll try to organize a nighttime trip to Elmont, and I'll report back with the results.

Count me in! I like the Wendy's across the street from Belmont. We'll hang out there. Have a cheeseburger or two.

Other than Aqueduct, the only business I have in Ozone Park is...
oh wait, that's not "reported" income and it's tax season...
nevermind!

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by philcski

Count me in! I like the Wendy's across the street from Belmont. We'll hang out there. Have a cheeseburger or two.

Other than Aqueduct, the only business I have in Ozone Park is...
oh wait, that's not "reported" income and it's tax season...
nevermind!

I had a feeling you were a prostitute, Phil, but I wasn't going to say anything.

As far as I know, there isn't an "across the street" from Belly, my dude!

[philcski]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

I had a feeling you were a prostitute, Phil, but I wasn't going to say anything.

As far as I know, there isn't an "across the street" from Belly, my dude!

Damn, I've been found out. Gotta change outfits next time.

Wendy's is at 199 Hempstead Tpke... the grooms all hang out there. I'm not kidding about that part!

[satan's twin]

Originally Posted by Scav

I do think night racing would be huge in the right environment. If they had night racing at Arlington on Friday/Saturday, it would be packed from head to toe in the summer, it would be like the Million every weekend

They had night racing at Arlington years ago and it was terrible. The attendance was very low and the ambiance was similar to a free t-shirt givaway night at Maywood Park on a Tusday.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by satan's twin

They had night racing at Arlington years ago and it was terrible. The attendance was very low and the ambiance was similar to a free t-shirt givaway night at Maywood Park on a Tusday.

I was around, ST, I am a man of the people, where I go, people follow

[disappearingdan_akaplaya]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Dude do you want to go into that neighborhood at night?

lol cannon(chuck) i live about 10 min from hawthorne by car so i dont live in the best of neighborhoods. personally i think hawthorne should scrap summer harness racing and have a QH meet there

[disappearingdan_akaplaya]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

you mean 6-7 bucks to get in and another $9.50 for a slice of pizza and a pepsi are not good things???

beer will probaly literally be 7 bucks a pop this year, im dreading the prices inside the track after what they spent on the poly. best thing to do at arlington is either have a horsemans license or know some1 who does and go to the kitchen on the backside. the food is surprisingly good there for a track kitchen and the beer is about 5 dollars less

[Scurlogue Champ]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Naturally they never mention the one thing that will almost assuredly increase handle and attract more money to their races. Decrease takeout.

Plus I love in #10 where the Breeders awards are under utilized? Do they want every race to be a NYbred race?

I never understand why this isn't a more popular solution to racing's woes.

Price is the messenger.

Lower the price, people buy more.