Rev. Falwell is dead

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Bababooyee

Saying X comes from God is hardly ADVOCATING any action...let alone any overt action on the part on any human.

What about those who hear messages from God telling them to blow up abortion clinics? Dubious as it may be, that "comes from God" and advocates action. (And yes, I know this is a ridiculous example, you needn't point it out. Intentionally so, since for whatever reason, talking about Falwell makes me somehow completely extreme and entirely irrational. His spirit rubbing off, I guess.)

Falwell's case is semantically different, because he could just sit back and revel in others' diseased misery without having to "do" anything, but the implicit approval of it is no less sickening.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Bababooyee

Still grasping at straws.

It is not semnatically different. It is actually different. Doing something vs merely stating something is done by another (by God, no less).


And, again, unlike those on the far left, I am not aware of him celebrating and reveling in the death of anyone. Though, he made some quite dubious leaps of "logic", similar to yours above!

Well, in my edit that came after you quoted me, I admitted to being completely irrational when discussing Falwell and it must be that I am finally learning something from him in his passing -- that it to say making absolutely no sense while pretending I know what I am talking about.

Plus, you're trying to indict an entire group "leftists" in comparing them to one man in saying that some people are rejoicing over his death and he never did so, which somehow elevates him to a moral higher ground than the entire group of people that those rejoicing belong to. Pick your bone with the people rejoicing, not with a foolish blanket indicitment of all "lefties."

That logic (yours remember, not mine) says that some Christians bombed an abortion clinic. My gay friend did not. Therefore, my gay friend is better, or morally superior to all Christians.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Bababooyee

Still grasping at straws...

Using the term "many" is not quite the same as indicting an entire group of anything. I am certain I didn't need to repeat "many" everytime given the context. When I intend "all", I will say "all" - that's how I roll.

Nice straw man attempt though. I'll chalk it up to more emotionalism and irrationalism because you are discussing Falwell.

B,

You know I like you so I'm not going to sit here and carry on with you, having more than enough evidence from your conversations with namely S2S, but not limited to him, and mostly including....everyone -- that you're incapable of thinking outside of what you've already decided is "right."

With that said, you call YOUR logic a straw man on my part. I will disprove that immediately with two sentence, just to prove my point that you're trying to talk your way out of being wrong instead of just admitting it.

Some Christians bombed an abortion clinic.
Christians are murderous, insane a$sholes.

Those are two separate thoughts, like you've made several times. You say "many" once, but the second you don't say many, some, a few, etc, you then jump to indicting an entire group...much like I did in my second sentence. I did not say "some," and therefore I was lumping an entire group in with the awful portion of the larger group.

With all due respect, please don't try to say that your lack of clarity can be explained by some psychosis on my part. If you mean some, you say some. If not, you don't.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Bababooyee

I did, in fact, say "many". I did not, in fact, say "all". So, you either know how I think, or you don't. Make up your mind.

If I never said "many", then you would have a point.

Furthermore, you are pulling a "straw man" because you are setting up an argument that you are trying to attribute to me (ie Falwell on some moral high ground), then knock it down. I am not saying Falwell is better than anyone. Merely, MANY leftists say X, but look at how they are responding here wrt Falwell's death. Like I said, the hypocrisy of many on the left is my point. Period.

You are completely missing my point, perhaps intentionally. It matters not if you say "many" once, but the second you say "lefties" without a qualifier, you are indicting an entire group. That is a semantic reality, whether you like it or not.

Please respond to my point, if you take issue with my premise (and I will elaborate for the sake of your "context" argument):

Some Christians bombed an abortion clinic.
Some Christians wish homosexuals to be exterminated.
Some Christians champion torture.
Christians are murderous, immoral as$holes.

The very second I leave out the qualifier "some," "many," or any other qualifier, I have spoken about an entire group, which is wrong.

And it's not a straw man in that sense, cuz it's not about Falwell. It's about you and your wording of a response. That's not a straw man, calling you out on your lack of a modifier. It's your error, not mine. If you don't want to take ownership of it, so be it, but don't pretend I'm just making it up.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I just figured out what wrt means. It was really bothering me.

what the hell does FWIW mean?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

what the hell does FWIW mean?

for what its worth

but i still haven't figured out wrt yet...but then i haven't thought much about it either. oh wait, it's with regard to isn't it?

i can sleep tonite.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Bababooyee

Though, I think I should be given some slack as I had a scope shoved up my d!ck today...barely, numbed and probably the most uncomfortable 120 seconds of my life (a little traumatizing to say the least). Of course, I am teasing...about the slack part. The scope and trauma is all too true. But do please pardon any lack of clarity here as I am not feeling the best right this second.

Point taken.

We could have avoided all of this by just cutting to the chase of you having been violated previously in the day.

This one has been put to rest, though I do still maintain that "unlike those on the left" paints a pretty broad stroke.

[Downthestretch55]

Falwell Goes to Hell

Jerry Falwell has a heart attack and dies. He goes to Hell where the Devil is waiting for him.

“I don’t know what to do,” says the Devil. “You’re on my list but I have no room for you. But you definitely have to stay here, so I’ll tell you what I’m going to do. I’ve got three people here who weren’t quite as bad as you. I’ll let one of them go, but you have to take their place.
I’ll even let YOU decide who leaves.”

Jerry thought that sounded pretty good so he agreed.

The devil opened the first room. In it was Richard Nixon and a large pool of water. He kept diving in and surfacing empty handed over and over and over, such was his fate in Hell.

“No!” Jerry said. “I don’t think so. I’m not a good swimmer and I don’t think I could do that all day long.”

The Devil led him to the next room. In it was Ronald Reagan with a sledgehammer and a room full of rocks. All he did was swing that hammer, time after time after time.

“No! I’ve got this problem with my shoulder. I would be in constant agony if all I could do was break rocks all day!” commented Jerry.

The Devil opened a third door. In it, Jerry saw Bill Clinton lying naked on the floor with his arms staked over his head and his legs staked in spread-eagle pose. Bent over him was Monica Lewinsky, doing what she does best.

Falwell looked at this in disbelief for a while and finally said, “Yeah, I can handle this.”

The Devil smiled and said, “Monica, you’re free to go!”

[golfer]

http://www.madcowprod.com/05182007.html

[Mortimer]

Is he still dead?

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by mortimerdexterfoxworthy

Is he still dead?

Well the rock was moved and the cave empty so....

[Mortimer]

Excellent!

[Downthestretch55]

Bombs at the funeral.......

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3201543

Methinks these folks have missed what Jesus was all about.

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

Bombs at the funeral.......

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3201543

Methinks these folks have missed what Jesus was all about.

Here's a bit more about Uhl, the "Christian terrorist", including a link to his myspace page...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/max-bl...r_b_49167.html

Crusaders unite!!!!
Geesh! Didn't we do this before with Pope Urban?