What should Scav do?

[Danzig]

oh--but whatever you decide, do not tell the present boss to eff off. don't burn any bridges.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Basically what I was trying to say, but you did a better job of it. Hooves tells it like it is.

When your job sucks and you have the capability to do something about it, I think you should give it a try. This has absolutely NOTHING to do with last week's hit. All that did was give me the freedom to try something like this.

I see no reason why I shouldn't try it while I am finishing my accounting degree. I am guaranteed a job after I am done given the market place(if I need it), I have an 'out' to why I was unemployed, and I can enjoy a summer, and I can put to bed the possible notion if I can 'make' it or not....I see no reason, it isn't like I am not working at something, I have plenty of cash to last me a year, which then I could make the decision to get a real accounting job, or continue at what I am doing.....

No idea what I am going to do, but I am leading towards the boss getting a fat old GFY

[The Indomitable DrugS]

My vote is for E.....

Take it to Ann Landers.

[infield_line]

What Do You Want With a Job???

Keep the job and get your degree..... living the way we all want to live, benefits, retirement savings represents a whole lot of exacta's you are committing to hit......

you might also consider the biases of future employers when they ask you what you did for a year.... "oh I lived off a monster pick 6 I hit at Hollywood"

create a strategy to get a career situation that gives you the flexibility to do the racing you love to do...IMHO

I/L

[Scav]

Originally Posted by infield_line

you might also consider the biases of future employers when they ask you what you did for a year.... "oh I lived off a monster pick 6 I hit at Hollywood"

Actually my out would be that I stopped working for a year to focus on my accounting degree......

I see everyone's point. Not really sure what I want to do but this job sucks and I finally have something to do about it

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Scav

Actually my out would be that I stopped working for a year to focus on my accounting degree......

I see everyone's point. Not really sure what I want to do but this job sucks and I finally have something to do about it

That depends on how smart you are with this money...

Personally, I'd probably keep my job (for the benefits) or get a new one that offers benefits AND pays for your school. Whatever you do, don't tell your boss to GFY... burning bridges is never a good thing.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

. Whatever you do, don't tell your boss to GFY... burning bridges is never a good thing.

lol. That's good advice. Just when you think the world is a big place, an old boss shows up at your new company as, guess what, your new boss. And, you possibly may need a 'neutral' or better reference from your old company. Save the GFYs for your friends.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

That depends on how smart you are with this money...

Personally, I'd probably keep my job (for the benefits) or get a new one that offers benefits AND pays for your school. Whatever you do, don't tell your boss to GFY... burning bridges is never a good thing.

I was telling a friend on PM yesterday that because of this hit, I have become smarter(so far). Some of you might not understand this but alot of my tilt sessions were 'chasing' based, and not day chasing but total amount chasing as far as debt. I have zero debt now, and the other night while playing Mountaineer, I actually STOPPED playing midway through a card, after I hit that 4th race hard. Now, in the last 14 years of wagering (yes, I started when I was 14), I have never stopped midway through a card, nothing was ever enough, it was either broke or enough to pay something in full.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by Scav

I was telling a friend on PM yesterday that because of this hit, I have become smarter(so far). Some of you might not understand this but alot of my tilt sessions were 'chasing' based, and not day chasing but total amount chasing as far as debt. I have zero debt now, and the other night while playing Mountaineer, I actually STOPPED playing midway through a card, after I hit that 4th race hard. Now, in the last 14 years of wagering (yes, I started when I was 14), I have never stopped midway through a card, nothing was ever enough, it was either broke or enough to pay something in full.

Careful about the becoming smarter stuff.

There is zero correlation between intelligence and personal wealth.

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=3178567

[Scav]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

Careful about the becoming smarter stuff.

There is zero correlation between intelligence and personal wealth.

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=3178567

I always had the smartness, just didn't have the freedom. I agree that money makes you do stupid things, I have been pissing it away on some comedy stuff (A $10 cowboy hat is one of those things) but from a wagering perspective, I actually PULLED back for once, never did that at all. I was up like $700 and said "This is enough for today" and the computer closed. a great feeling actually

[ArlJim78]

This game has a way of bringing you back down to earth and making you feel pretty dumb. Be careful about making long term decisions when you're at the top of a wave.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

This game has a way of bringing you back down to earth and making you feel pretty dumb. Be careful about making long term decisions when you're at the top of a wave.

Along those lines, I have not made many meaningful long term decisions lately. The fact I am now losing at a slower rate than a month or two ago is, however, encouraging.

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by Scav

I was telling a friend on PM yesterday that because of this hit, I have become smarter(so far). Some of you might not understand this but alot of my tilt sessions were 'chasing' based, and not day chasing but total amount chasing as far as debt. I have zero debt now, and the other night while playing Mountaineer, I actually STOPPED playing midway through a card, after I hit that 4th race hard. Now, in the last 14 years of wagering (yes, I started when I was 14), I have never stopped midway through a card, nothing was ever enough, it was either broke or enough to pay something in full.

This does nothing to show me you are ready for the next step. Exactly the opposite, in fact. You stopped because you "hit that 4th race hard"? I don't even know if that means you won big or lost big, but either way it should not have been your sole criterion for stopping.

There are only two reasons an advantage capper should stop midway through a card:
1. You have already capped the rest of the card and you know you can expect no edge on any of the remaining races.
2. You are too tired or too upset to use good judgement.

Maybe you lost enough in the 4th at Mountaineer to upset you, in which case you did the right thing by stopping. But it's not a good sign that you can lose enough in a single race to put yourself on tilt.

Scoring a nice win is most definitely NOT a reason to stop for the night. Is the next day's play somehow part of a separate sequence? It's all one long play, not a bunch of separate days.

--Dunbar

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by Scav

I always had the smartness, just didn't have the freedom. I agree that money makes you do stupid things, I have been pissing it away on some comedy stuff (A $10 cowboy hat is one of those things) but from a wagering perspective, I actually PULLED back for once, never did that at all. I was up like $700 and said "This is enough for today" and the computer closed. a great feeling actually

Maybe a "great feeling", but the wrong move. There will be days when you lose $675 or lose $800. At the end of the year, if you have an edge then the more time you have put into capping and betting, the more money you will make. If you quit for the day every time you reach some arbitrary threshold, you are 'leaving money on the table'.

Instead of thinking in terms of how much you are up for the day, you should get in the habit of thinking in terms of where you are overall. Don't reset each day at zero. Don't waste mental energy worrying about whether you will finish ahead for that day.

--Dunbar

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by Scav

I always had the smartness, just didn't have the freedom. I agree that money makes you do stupid things, I have been pissing it away on some comedy stuff (A $10 cowboy hat is one of those things) but from a wagering perspective, I actually PULLED back for once, never did that at all. I was up like $700 and said "This is enough for today" and the computer closed. a great feeling actually

You won't go bust buying $10 hats. And having a few $$ probably doesn't bring you freedom though it certainly does bring the illusion of it and many other things. It's good that you backed off and slowed, at least a bit.

I played full-time for 12 months after I got d-sized and packaged out. I turned $30 into $49. That includes about $17 of rebates. It was really very, very difficult but I'm glad I did it. My only advice to someone trying it would be to 1. Use a rebate shop. 2. Stick to p-3 and p-4 pools at NYRA, CD or SoCal only (The Maryland track 3 and 4 takeouts are low, but they are miniscule pools (like $5k for a Pimlico p-3 pool -- lower than Mountaineer)). Play p-6's on double+ carryovers only. I have thought about this a fair amount and while other people certainly can succeed other ways, I'm convinced this is the only way it can be done.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by Dunbar

This does nothing to show me you are ready for the next step. Exactly the opposite, in fact. You stopped because you "hit that 4th race hard"? I don't even know if that means you won big or lost big, but either way it should not have been your sole criterion for stopping.

There are only two reasons an advantage capper should stop midway through a card:
1. You have already capped the rest of the card and you know you can expect no edge on any of the remaining races.
2. You are too tired or too upset to use good judgement.

Maybe you lost enough in the 4th at Mountaineer to upset you, in which case you did the right thing by stopping. But it's not a good sign that you can lose enough in a single race to put yourself on tilt.

Scoring a nice win is most definitely NOT a reason to stop for the night. Is the next day's play somehow part of a separate sequence? It's all one long play, not a bunch of separate days.
--Dunbar

This is really true and it took me a long time to realize it. I agree with everything you wrote here.

[jman5581]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

This is really true and it took me a long time to realize it.

It did?

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by jman5581

It did?

Yes, I said it did. What is the point of your post?

[jman5581]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

Yes, I said it did. What is the point of your post?

To quote the great poet...

"I speak a great infinite deal of nothing."

Sorry, as we were...

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by cmfhb411

...you'll hear a lot of "why it can't be done" because it's easier for most of us to pile on with negatives.
I've toyed with trying to grind it out at the track. I believe I can do it, but I'm too selective when it comes to "dropping the hammer down" on my best angles. In between my biggest plays, all I do is take real small shots.
So going at it full-time doesn't fit me well.

Just tune out the naysayers and go for it.

im not a a naysayer im a friend and its my opinion that this game is tough and unless you are ready to make it a job on its own id not do it,,but thats me. first off youll need a bigger bank roll..take rent food car payment for 1 year off the top..what does that leave you with..15k.. you will need some great luck..but hey your young go for it..