Top Ten 2008 3 year olds

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

You really can't understand how that happens? One horse does not make a field great. The field that Curlin beat in his maiden race at Gulfstream was not better than the Florida Derby field was but Curlin was still better than what ran in the Florida Derby wasn't he?

The one horse you are talking about barely showed he was better than than a field you are calling weaker than the FOY despite having a favorable set-up. you make no sense sometimes. you would have a point if Giant Moon had to overcome adversity and still won decisively. it was not clear that he was much better than Spank Fischbein.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

barbero looked fantastic in his preps..........all of them ..im just hoping g moon may have gotten better .

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

g m is no efields ..period

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Saying Giant Moon is ahead of either Cool Coal Man or Elysium Fields on a Derby List is indefensible based on their on track performances. You can say it's " my opinion " and I will tell you unequivicably that it is a bad one.

Good luck.

Good luck to you too.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Whatever man, I don't have the energy to argue little things with you. I realize that you have a need for people to know what your opinion is, but when you continously contradict yourself and make no sense it gets to be tiresome. We all know you think outside the box, we get it. Just as we all know that for all your bark, there is little to no substance to it. I'm not trying to be cruel, I'm just giving my opinion.

Those two comments strike me as funny. I have a need for people to know my opinions huh? Isn't that what everyone on this board is doing? Giving their opinions. I have a need to have people know my opinions on horses but u feel the need to give your opinion on me. Interesting.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I was being ironic.

Of course. Good day.

[horseofcourse]

Eight Belles is the best 3 yr old I've seen this year. Not a Derby horse, but I've seen noone run better than her this year.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

Eight Belles is the best 3 yr old I've seen this year. Not a Derby horse, but I've seen noone run better than her this year.

I assume you are joking.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by miraja2

I assume you are joking.

No, I'm dead serious on this. I've seen no one run better than her this year. IF Denis of Cork is highly thought of...I saw her run the same distance at the same track on an off track the day before completely 100 percent under wraps through the stretch getting the same Beyer as DOC. She does have the highest two turn 3 yr old Beyer this year. I realize Beyers are meaningless to some extent. I saw her two races. In my opinion she's better than anything I've seen this year. Other than War Pass who is obvious...of all the 3 year olds I think she is the one with the best chance outside him to be "special". I'm most likely wrong...but that's ok. I like her running style..she appears to be adaptable...can come off the pace...can rate just off. Seems to be well schooled. After watching all her two year old races when she appeared to be tough to handle and never changed leads in the stretch...it appears she now "gets it". Two extremely efficient races starting off her 3 yr old year.

No...not joking one iota.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by miraja2

I assume you are joking.

I'm starting to think it's more like

1.) Indian Blessing
2-10.) Also Rans

[Left Bank]

Big Brown !!

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by jcs11204

thank you, horse has never done a thing wrong, all he does is win, always moves forward, he should be on any and every top 10 list, i can see why not top 5, but 10 for sure

Apparently you think more of this colt than the horse's own trainer:

"Richard Schosberg, trainer of Giant Moon, said he is looking forward to finding out more about his talented New York-bred colt and admits that he must improve in order to be taken seriously as a legitimate Kentucky Derby contender.
'He has a lot to prove, he has a lot of improving to do,' said Schosberg, who trains Giant Moon for owner-breeder Al Fried Jr. 'His numbers have to get better if he's going to be considered in the top 15.'"

[blackthroatedwind]

That's because Rick is a very sharp guy who actually knows horses.

[RolloTomasi]

Anyone remember Champagneforashley?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Anyone remember Champagneforashley?

Tesher.

Good horse. Secord, or maybe third, to Thirty Six Red in the Wood I believe.

[SOREHOOF]

Most, if not all, of what trainers say is either directly, or indirectly, aimed at the owner. He's just being realistic.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Anyone remember Champagneforashley?

I think he won the Nashua... what's the connection?

[robfla]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Anyone remember Champagneforashley?

is he the horse that won 1st five career ( NYB ) starts by a combined > 40 lengths, third in the Wood ( ran great ) skipped the derby - out injured in the preakness?

no, i don't remember him

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by philcski

I think he won the Nashua... what's the connection?

Nothing really. Just remember him being an undefeated NY bred that was favored in either the Gotham or Wood.

This thread reminded me of him.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Nothing really. Just remember him being an undefeated NY bred that was favored in either the Gotham or Wood.

This thread reminded me of him.

Giant Moon couldn't have warmed him up. He was fast.