A.I.G....unfreakinreal

[dellinger63]

Who's fault are the bonuses?

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=aT_tMXRy2vDs

Obama says he's taking responsibility for it so I guess that qualifies as F up 70 something.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator

Gunna take some time to change the culture of greed and corruption that flourished on Wall Street during the Bush-Cheney (woo-hoo! regulation schmegulation) party years...

is that the change he's been talking about?
LMAO Michelle will go through her 'change' before the President does.

[Smooth Operator]

Seriously doubt BO can handle it himself, dellinger.

May need divine intervention to clean up this colossal economic mess from eight years (woo-hoo!) of Bush-Cheney...

[gales0678]

chris dodd from CT , get a home mortgage lower than any of us can get, get oddles of cash from AIG , he is from CT , Aig FP is from ct .... he has 2 stories know about the retention bonuses - what gives folks?

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator

Seriously doubt BO can handle it himself, dellinger.

May need divine intervention to clean up this colossal economic mess from eight years (woo-hoo!) of Bush-Cheney...

the funny thing about this the deregualtion occured before bush came to wash , and a former sec of tresaury went to citibank and walked away with 100mm + , and now citibank is at 1.50 a share but all that seems to get forgotten

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator

Seriously doubt BO can handle it himself, dellinger.

May need divine intervention to clean up this colossal economic mess from eight years (woo-hoo!) of Bush-Cheney...

Boy I hate to recap but feeling good today so for you I offer this....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs

[Danzig]

aig not the only one paying bonuses:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123739512036672809.html

[Smooth Operator]

Can't access u-tube here, dellinger.


What is it? ... some old lady who got burned in the stock market throwing her shoes at Bush? lol

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator

Can't access u-tube here, dellinger.


What is it? ... some old lady who got burned in the stock market throwing her shoes at Bush? lol

yep

[Riot]

Palin rejects nearly 30% of stimulus
JUNEAU, Alaska (AP) — Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin says she will accept just 69% of the estimated $930 million in federal stimulus funds that could flow to the state.

Palin's original announcement Thursday that she was accepting just over half the stimulus package funds did not include $128 million in Medicaid stimulus money she is accepting.

The former vice presidential candidate says she will accept only money without strings that will bind the state later. It's up to the Legislature to weigh in on the rest of the package.

So - Palin can't count accurately (well, 69% is sorta like "just over half", except it's not), and she only wants money from us she doesn't have to account for.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

So - Palin can't count accurately (well, 69% is sorta like "just over half", except it's not), and she only wants money from us she doesn't have to account for.

Let's try and go slow so we only have to do this once. 69% of 930 million is 642 million. Now subtract the 128 million for Medicare and you get 514 million. Half of 930 is 465 so in reality the MILF from Alaska is off 50% by 49 million which, in effect is 55% or a little more than half of what the Fed is offering. So be happy she has kicked back almost $300 million and the knowledge she can count and be elected to the State's highest office with the votes of a male majority. Oh I forgot she's republican and tryng to be responsible to her State so she's an evil moron.

[ArlJim78]

how shocking, who knew that Palin was a fiscal conservative and would not want the long tentacles from Washington dictating how the state is run.
how dare she run her state in a responsible way.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

how shocking, who knew that Palin was a fiscal conservative and would not want the long tentacles from Washington dictating how the state is run.
how dare she run her state in a responsible way.

and can count

[Cannon Shell]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123759827524401409.html

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Let's try and go slow so we only have to do this once.

Sarah: "I'm only accepting a little over 50% of the bailout!"

Aid: "Psst Gov - no, no, we WANT that 128 mil in Medicare, too".

Sarah: "I'm only accepting 69% of the bailout!"


Palin, the "responsible fiscal conservative"? - what has happened to the state budget in Alaska since she's been Gov?

"The former vice presidential candidate says she will accept only money without strings that will bind the state later."

Then I'll eagerly be waiting to see her veto the rest, after her legislature accepts it.

Yes - Palin wants the unexpected free federal money winfall, but just like AIG, she doesn't want to be held accountable to the Feds for what she does with it.

[Danzig]

no money as yet has been distributed, correct? but the last two weeks the market has done better than in months.

i think they should rescind the vote, the money-we can't afford the cure for what ails us. in this case, the cure is worse than the disease. trillion dollar deficits for years-how exactly does that help us long term? or even short term for that matter????

how exactly did we recover from every other recession, as i don't recall votes or hysteria like this in the past?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

no money as yet has been distributed, correct? but the last two weeks the market has done better than in months.

i think they should rescind the vote, the money-we can't afford the cure for what ails us. in this case, the cure is worse than the disease. trillion dollar deficits for years-how exactly does that help us long term? or even short term for that matter????

how exactly did we recover from every other recession, as i don't recall votes or hysteria like this in the past?

Some of the companies eligible for bailout money have now said they don't need it; and several have said they will have it paid back quickly.

Trillion dollar deficit for years - our deficit doubled during the last eight years. Doubled.

Nobody knows for sure if the additional money will help or not. We just have to see. Yeah, that sucks.

This recession involves the banking failures. That is what makes it different than previous recessions, and the potential affect on the country, and world, much different.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Riot

Some of the companies eligible for bailout money have now said they don't need it; and several have said they will have it paid back quickly.

Trillion dollar deficit for years - our deficit doubled during the last eight years. Doubled.
Nobody knows for sure if the additional money will help or not. We just have to see. Yeah, that sucks.

This recession involves the banking failures. That is what makes it different than previous recessions, and the potential affect on the country, and world, much different.

thing is, what's happened already can't be changed. doesn't mean we have to continue down the same path that's gotten us where we are now. eight percent across the board budget increases (for example)won't get us out of this morass. stockpiling untold funds into a 'trust fund' for future health care isn't a priority right now either-at least it shouldn't be.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by Riot

Some of the companies eligible for bailout money have now said they don't need it; and several have said they will have it paid back quickly.

Trillion dollar deficit for years - our deficit doubled during the last eight years. Doubled.
Nobody knows for sure if the additional money will help or not. We just have to see. Yeah, that sucks.

This recession involves the banking failures. That is what makes it different than previous recessions, and the potential affect on the country, and world, much different.

if you're concerned that it doubled in eight years to $400 billion aren't you the least bit concerned that this year it will quadruple to $1.8 trillion?
QUADRUPLE

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

thing is, what's happened already can't be changed. doesn't mean we have to continue down the same path that's gotten us where we are now. eight percent across the board budget increases (for example)won't get us out of this morass. stockpiling untold funds into a 'trust fund' for future health care isn't a priority right now either-at least it shouldn't be.

?? How is the bailout like what got us here?

The stimulus package isn't "across the board" budget increases, so I don't know why you are using that as a "for example"?

Do you agree that spending is what ends recessionary times?

I think our healthcare system is an overpriced disaster run by insurance companies and having little to nothing to do with medicine, I think sometimes receiving medical care in the US can be dangerous to the patient, and I am not that thrilled with Obama's plan.

I remember when the Dow first got over 1000, then again when it got over 5000. When it hit 5000, all anyone could talk about was how unbelievably artificially inflated it was, and how desperately it needed to fall and correct to reality.