LOL -- A warning from Napolitano

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

People have no problem bragging that they make more collecting unemployment than if they had a job yet nothing gets done about it. Wait something did. Unemployment benefits got extended. Way to reward some of the trash.

Really? Where are all those people, Nascar? All the ones bragging?

Let's see:

Unemployment from a job paying $80,000 a year (not counting lost retirement, health benefits, social security input): $300/week before taxes

Minimum-wage McDonald's job at $7.25/hr (with healthcare, retirement, social security input): $290/week before taxes

Yeah - the unemployed are just raking it in, by cashing in on those unemployment insurance policies because they were fired or laid off against their will !

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

The illegals don't belong in this country? Maybe you feel they do belong here and become a taxpayer's burden like they are.

No, I am saying the guilty illegal should be deported after being found guilty, and we do not pay for her incarceration. Because she is a criminal, she will not be taken to the border and dumped - she will be handed over to Mexican police.

You are saying we should pay for incarcerating this illegal for 24 years.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Riot

Really? Where are all those people, Nascar? All the ones bragging?

Let's see:

Unemployment from a job paying $80,000 a year (not counting lost retirement, health benefits, social security input): $300/week before taxes

Minimum-wage McDonald's job at $7.25/hr (with healthcare, retirement, social security input): $290/week before taxes

Yeah - the unemployed are just raking it in, by cashing in their insurance policies!

I have seen these people on the news. It wasn't on Fox. Keep on living in your make believe world. You remind of the movie A Few Good Men when Tom Cruise says "Colonel Jessup you can't accept the truth" It is always what you think and everyone else is wrong.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

I have seen these people on the news. It wasn't on Fox. Keep on living in your make believe world. You remind of the movie A Few Good Men when Tom Cruise says "Colonel Jessup you can't accept the truth" It is always what you think and everyone else is wrong.

My "make believe world" quoted you real numbers.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Im sure she wont lose her license. All she will probably get is probation. If it was you or me we would lose our license and probably doing some jail time.

You get the same justice and probably better since you can pay for your own defense. Cut the whoah is me.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Very true what you just said. People have no problem bragging that they make more collecting unemployment than if they had a job yet nothing gets done about it. Wait something did. Unemployment benefits got extended. Way to reward some of the trash.

in what alternate universe do people make more by collecting unemployment than at a job? at $300 a week, that's not even $8 an hour for a 40 hour week. and i promise you, those making min wage do not make the top unemployment. do you even pay attention to what you've written before hitting submit reply?

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

Who gets "paid for not working" except for farmers?

I am quite sure these numbers are far higher now.

In September 2009, around 4 million Americans were served by a state cash-assistance or welfare program, more than 37 million received federal food stamps and about 9.1 million received unemployment benefits. If treated as exclusive numbers, there would be a total of 50.1 million Americans who received federal aid in September 2009. This data is based on a report published in USA today in January 2010.

That said, I have no problem with unemployment, temporary unemployment, as it was meant to be. As an employer of people it is almost less expensive to maintain a worker rather than let one go. UI is expensive and does not allow for inexpensive replacement workers.
Where I grew up, many of my neighbors took FULL advantage of the handout system by having extra children, not working (on purpose) and even not marrying to maintain their low (read $0) income levels despite the fact that they lived next door to us (dad was a cop, mom worked too). This is who, besides farmers are paid not to work, far more than the $300 or so UI pays.

[Princess Doreen]

http://www.whtc.com/blogs/post/rking...american-jobs/

"The Federation for American Immigration Reform estimates that the cost of illegal immigration to the states stands at about $113 billion, with nearly half that amount going to education costs."

I don't see how illegal immigrants are paying their way. Even if the have SS deducted from their wages, states aren't getting that money - the federal government is.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Deported so she can find her way back into this country again? I agree with the 24 years of prison time.

If she comes back, then she should serve that 24 years. That's what is missing -- by Democrat design -- meaningful enforcement.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

http://www.whtc.com/blogs/post/rking...american-jobs/

"The Federation for American Immigration Reform estimates that the cost of illegal immigration to the states stands at about $113 billion, with nearly half that amount going to education costs."

I don't see how illegal immigrants are paying their way. Even if the have SS deducted from their wages, states aren't getting that money - the federal government is.

FYI

Ignoring the "minor crime" such as ID theft and property crimes being committed by illegal aliens, here is a summary on some of the collateral damage reaped in crimes as a result of tolerating illegal aliens in the USA:

In Los Angeles, 95% of some 1,500 outstanding warrants for homicides are for illegal aliens. About 67% of the 17,000 outstanding fugitive felony warrants are for illegal aliens.

There are currently over 400,000 unaccounted for illegal alien criminals with outstanding deportation orders. At least one fourth of these are hard core criminals.

80,000 to 100,000 illegal aliens who have been convicted of serious crimes are walking the streets. Based on studies they will commit an average of 13 serious crimes per perpetrator.

Illegal aliens are involved in criminal activities at a rate that is 2-5 times their representative proportion of the population.

In 1980, our Federal and state facilities held fewer than 9,000 criminal aliens but at the end of 2003, approximately 267,000 illegal aliens were incarcerated in U.S. correctional facilities at a cost of about $6.8 billion per year.

At least 4.5 million pounds of cocaine with a street value of at least $72 billion is smuggled across the southern border every year. ..

56% of illegal aliens charged with a reentry offense had previously been convicted on at least 5 prior occasions.

Illegal aliens charged with unlawful reentry had the most extensive criminal histories. 90% had been previously arrested. Of those with a prior arrest, 50% had been arrested for violent or drug-related felonies.

Illegal aliens commit between 700,000 to 1,289,000 or more crimes per year.

Illegal aliens commit at least 2,158 murders each year – a number that represents three times greater participation than their proportion of the population.

Illegal alien sexual predators commit an estimated 130,909 sexual crimes each year.

There may be as many as 240,000 illegal alien sex offenders circulating throughout America. Based on studies, they will commit an average of 8 sex crimes per perpetrator before being caught.

Nearly 63% of illegal alien sex offenders had been deported on another offense prior to committing the sex crime.

Only 2% of the illegal alien sex offenders in one study had no history of criminal behavior, beyond crossing the border illegally.

In Operation Predator, ICE arrested and deported 6,085 illegal alien pedophiles. Some studies suggest each pedophile molests average of 148 children. If so, that could be as many as 900,580 victims.

Nobody knows how big the Sex Slave problem is but it is enormous.

The very brutal MS-13 gang has over 15,000 members and associates in at least 115 different cliques in 33 states.

The overall financial impact of illegal alien crimes is estimated at between $14.4 and $81 billion or more per year. Factor in the crime as a result of the cocaine and other drugs being smuggled in and the number may reach $150 billion per year.

http://www.usillegalaliens.com/impac...e_summary.html

[Crown@club]

Originally Posted by Danzig

in what alternate universe do people make more by collecting unemployment than at a job? at $300 a week, that's not even $8 an hour for a 40 hour week. and i promise you, those making min wage do not make the top unemployment. do you even pay attention to what you've written before hitting submit reply?

Actually thats not far from the truth.

Unemployment is somewhere around $410 total. Unless the Obama $25 is gone.
But take home in the state of Indiana after taxes (fed, and state) was $351.00.

I had a friend, who got released from his job as a Manager at a local Pizza Hutt. I told him that an acquaintance that we both knew had an opening as a dealer at the local casino boat paying roughly around $640 a week.

I see this friend again a month later, and he told me he was content as Unemployment was paying more. WHAT?!

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Crown@club

Actually thats not far from the truth.

Unemployment is somewhere around $410 total. Unless the Obama $25 is gone.
But take home in the state of Indiana after taxes (fed, and state) was $351.00.

I had a friend, who got released from his job as a Manager at a local Pizza Hutt. I told him that an acquaintance that we both knew had an opening as a dealer at the local casino boat paying roughly around $640 a week.

I see this friend again a month later, and he told me he was content as Unemployment was paying more. WHAT?!

Thank you for telling this story. At least I know im not the only one who heard about an unemployed person not looking for a job because they make more collecting unemployment.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

The illegals don't belong in this country? Maybe you feel they do belong here and become a taxpayer's burden like they are.

There is no larger burden than a person in jail

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

Who gets "paid for not working" except for farmers?

Brian Scalabrine and fired coaches.

[AeWingnut]

Originally Posted by Riot

Who gets "paid for not working" except for farmers?

Michelle Obama and every one else with no show jobs in Crook County

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

http://www.whtc.com/blogs/post/rking...american-jobs/

"The Federation for American Immigration Reform estimates that the cost of illegal immigration to the states stands at about $113 billion, with nearly half that amount going to education costs."

I don't see how illegal immigrants are paying their way. Even if the have SS deducted from their wages, states aren't getting that money - the federal government is.

So the 11 million illegal aliens in the country cost 113 billion? Yeah sure they do. Those are made up numbers.

Your typical fake papers illegal alien pays as much in state and local taxes as any other legal worker. You can't just pay someone and solely take out social security. It is close to impossible to pay cash nowadays for any period of time for a business larger than a few employees. There are billions of dollars in withholding taxes that are never claimed that go to the state and federal govt.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

FYI

Ignoring the "minor crime" such as ID theft and property crimes being committed by illegal aliens, here is a summary on some of the collateral damage reaped in crimes as a result of tolerating illegal aliens in the USA:

In Los Angeles, 95% of some 1,500 outstanding warrants for homicides are for illegal aliens. About 67% of the 17,000 outstanding fugitive felony warrants are for illegal aliens.

There are currently over 400,000 unaccounted for illegal alien criminals with outstanding deportation orders. At least one fourth of these are hard core criminals.

80,000 to 100,000 illegal aliens who have been convicted of serious crimes are walking the streets. Based on studies they will commit an average of 13 serious crimes per perpetrator.

Illegal aliens are involved in criminal activities at a rate that is 2-5 times their representative proportion of the population.

In 1980, our Federal and state facilities held fewer than 9,000 criminal aliens but at the end of 2003, approximately 267,000 illegal aliens were incarcerated in U.S. correctional facilities at a cost of about $6.8 billion per year.

At least 4.5 million pounds of cocaine with a street value of at least $72 billion is smuggled across the southern border every year. ..

56% of illegal aliens charged with a reentry offense had previously been convicted on at least 5 prior occasions.

Illegal aliens charged with unlawful reentry had the most extensive criminal histories. 90% had been previously arrested. Of those with a prior arrest, 50% had been arrested for violent or drug-related felonies.

Illegal aliens commit between 700,000 to 1,289,000 or more crimes per year.

Illegal aliens commit at least 2,158 murders each year – a number that represents three times greater participation than their proportion of the population.

Illegal alien sexual predators commit an estimated 130,909 sexual crimes each year.

There may be as many as 240,000 illegal alien sex offenders circulating throughout America. Based on studies, they will commit an average of 8 sex crimes per perpetrator before being caught.

Nearly 63% of illegal alien sex offenders had been deported on another offense prior to committing the sex crime.

Only 2% of the illegal alien sex offenders in one study had no history of criminal behavior, beyond crossing the border illegally.

In Operation Predator, ICE arrested and deported 6,085 illegal alien pedophiles. Some studies suggest each pedophile molests average of 148 children. If so, that could be as many as 900,580 victims.

Nobody knows how big the Sex Slave problem is but it is enormous.

The very brutal MS-13 gang has over 15,000 members and associates in at least 115 different cliques in 33 states.

The overall financial impact of illegal alien crimes is estimated at between $14.4 and $81 billion or more per year. Factor in the crime as a result of the cocaine and other drugs being smuggled in and the number may reach $150 billion per year.

http://www.usillegalaliens.com/impac...e_summary.html

I have a hard time believing these numbers.

There are 400k illegal alien criminals with deportation orders? There are 100k aliens that have been convicted of serious crimes walking the streets?

[Princess Doreen]

Constantly updated information on illegal immigration in the U.S.A.

http://immigrationcounters.com/

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

Constantly updated information on illegal immigration in the U.S.A.

http://immigrationcounters.com/

You have to look at the numbers that they are posting and be a little skeptical. Accoring to that site there are 23 million illegals (including children). Also according to that 12 million skilled jobs are taken by illegals. Well if you subtract the school age kids and add another million or two that arent old enough for school or pregnant mothers or elderly or unemployed (this is probably a low estimate by me), then you are saying that 12 million out of the 16 milion workers here illegally are working at skilled jobs. Yeah right....

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

Constantly updated information on illegal immigration in the U.S.A.

http://immigrationcounters.com/

You do realize these are strictly estimates right?