Why Romney was blindsided by his loss, and why he lost

[alysheba4]

dick morris fooled me....... i just hope things get turned around in the 2nd term.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Danzig

read the article, interesting points made. and i didn't know that the life expectancy differed due to race.
the only part of ss i ever get steamed about are when i know people who are getting disability, and shouldn't be. i have a brother and sister who both 'work the system'.
my sisters disability? stress.
my brother hurt his back on the job. they offered him a desk job, he said he can't sit for very long. too painful. but he sure can sit and play world of warcraft day and night. loser.

That's frustrating to hear. I have a friend from childhood who is on disability, and needs to be, but it took her a long time to qualify and she was rejected the first time. But clearly in some areas one can manage to scam the system. Here in NYC I see ads for legal offices that tout themselves as firms to get people qualified for SSDI, and I just shake my head. I'm sure they take a cut of every check as payment.

I have a family member who tried (in PA) and it was pretty ridiculous. I mean, yes, she had to stop work in her 40s due to debilitating rheumatoid arthritis, but her husband made enough to support them both, so she didn't need SSDI and didn't bother to try to claim it. Ten years after she stopped working she then decided to try to qualify. Why, I have no idea, as they still didn't need the money. Fortunately, no SSDI lawyer would take the case, so she gave up.

[ntheiroff]

Originally Posted by Danzig

government workers= free stuff?
wow, i'll let my son, a sailor, know that he's not actually earning any of his benefits or pay.

by the by, most govt workers can't afford posh digs.

When I returned from Vietnam in 1969 and went job hunting, I found out quickly that there were not any. The most frustrating period of my life at the time. A college graduate, decorated military officer and it did not matter, jobs were hard to find.
Finding employment in the public sector was not an option due to the low pay scale at the time. Recent government studies have shown that the public sector pay scales have run away and hid from those in the private sector. In fact government employees can now "afford those digs."

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

That's frustrating to hear. I have a friend from childhood who is on disability, and needs to be, but it took her a long time to qualify and she was rejected the first time. But clearly in some areas one can manage to scam the system. Here in NYC I see ads for legal offices that tout themselves as firms to get people qualified for SSDI, and I just shake my head. I'm sure they take a cut of every check as payment.

I have a family member who tried (in PA) and it was pretty ridiculous. I mean, yes, she had to stop work in her 40s due to debilitating rheumatoid arthritis, but her husband made enough to support them both, so she didn't need SSDI and didn't bother to try to claim it. Ten years after she stopped working she then decided to try to qualify. Why, I have no idea, as they still didn't need the money. Fortunately, no SSDI lawyer would take the case, so she gave up.

yeah, it can be frustrating (especially when it's a family member, who was raised the same as me-ya want it, earn it). i know a lady whose husband fell from scaffolding, about 20 feet, and has extreme damage to a knee. denied.
my other sister has diabetes that became so difficult to control that they installed an insulin pump-she works.
i have stress, i work (i take a little magic pill every day ).
a guy my husband worked with-he got hurt at work, they gave him an easy job (he has no disability-at least when it comes to hunting, fishing, etc, etc) but then years later the job went away. he's on disability. so he can haul a deer carcass, skin it, he can sit in a john boat all day (ow) but he can't work.

yeah, my bro is a loser. won't even work a bit on the side to bring in a few bucks. you're allowed to earn some money in addition to benefits. he and his family lived with my folks for a while...my mother, two back surgeries for herniated discs-she worked. my brother? no, on w of w all day. my dad works at the golf course, told my brother he'd put him on the finish mower, so he wouldn't have to worry about bumps on the greens. nope.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by ntheiroff

When I returned from Vietnam in 1969 and went job hunting, I found out quickly that there were not any. The most frustrating period of my life at the time. A college graduate, decorated military officer and it did not matter, jobs were hard to find.
Finding employment in the public sector was not an option due to the low pay scale at the time. Recent government studies have shown that the public sector pay scales have run away and hid from those in the private sector. In fact government employees can now "afford those digs."

i guess i'm including all workers, and perhaps you're not?
the average govt state worker here is a few thousand at most a year higher than the average private worker. of course that number is skewed a bit since even the u of a coaches are included in that number.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i guess i'm including all workers, and perhaps you're not?
the average govt state worker here is a few thousand at most a year higher than the average private worker. of course that number is skewed a bit since even the u of a coaches are included in that number.

Their pensions is the killer.. Pensions are virtually extinct in the Private sector.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by jms62

Their pensions is the killer.. Pensions are virtually extinct in the Private sector.

true. and i can't stand double dippers, but it happens. i found it outrageous enough to call the gov's office.
yeah, i'm sure that helped.

[ntheiroff]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i guess i'm including all workers, and perhaps you're not?
the average govt state worker here is a few thousand at most a year higher than the average private worker. of course that number is skewed a bit since even the u of a coaches are included in that number.

I was referring to comparable jobs in the private vs. public sectors, primarily executive type jobs.