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Old 10-22-2006, 01:29 PM
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youth and lack of experience hurt edwards, and it'll hurt obama. i read also a couple weeks ago that hillary may just try to move up in the senate to speaker of the house, rather than attempt a probable losing presidential run.
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Old 10-22-2006, 01:43 PM
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youth and lack of experience hurt edwards, and it'll hurt obama. i read also a couple weeks ago that hillary may just try to move up in the senate to speaker of the house, rather than attempt a probable losing presidential run.
There is no speaker of the house in the Senate. It is Majority Leader or Minority Leader, a completely useless job considering Senators listen to nobody, unlike the House idiots who are just sheep.
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Old 10-22-2006, 02:08 PM
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Don't worry about it...I just posted a comeback playfully! I thought maybe the cave was a reference to my references to Plato's Cave, wasn't sure about the righteous part but I was laughing when I posted my response...I constantly post stuff that people sometimes take seriously...it's simply how I am.
You might be right, this is a very angry country right now, but I really think that some areas are lost to the Dems anyway...she has done well in upstate NY and that could bode well nationally. Then again, Arnold is leading by 17 points in the polls in his reelection bid in California...who would have thunk it?

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Old 10-22-2006, 06:41 PM
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The liberal idiots in Manhattan will not allow this to happen. They love the elitist liberal candidates from the northeast. This way when they lose they can say the are good liberals who care about people, but they still get the Republican tax cuts so they can have their Hamptons home.
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Old 10-22-2006, 08:36 PM
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There is no speaker of the house in the Senate. It is Majority Leader or Minority Leader, a completely useless job considering Senators listen to nobody, unlike the House idiots who are just sheep.
duh me....majority leader is what i meant.
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Old 10-22-2006, 10:18 PM
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The liberal idiots in Manhattan will not allow this to happen. They love the elitist liberal candidates from the northeast. This way when they lose they can say the are good liberals who care about people, but they still get the Republican tax cuts so they can have their Hamptons home.
Revolution, I respectfully ask you to watch your mouth (or fingers, as the case may be). This liberal Manhattanite does not appreciate being called an "idiot." And I certainly can't afford a Hampton house (I can barely manage rent), nor did I benefit from any of the Republican tax cuts, so quite frankly, shut up with the Fox News generalizations about New Yorkers. Thanks; much appreciated.
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Old 10-23-2006, 09:05 PM
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Revolution, I respectfully ask you to watch your mouth (or fingers, as the case may be). This liberal Manhattanite does not appreciate being called an "idiot." And I certainly can't afford a Hampton house (I can barely manage rent), nor did I benefit from any of the Republican tax cuts, so quite frankly, shut up with the Fox News generalizations about New Yorkers. Thanks; much appreciated.
One, I hate Fox News.

Two, it says liberal idiots, that does not mean all liberals are idiots, it means the elitist liberals that run the democratic party in New York. Why do you think Mike Bloomberg left the Democratic Party. The liberal elitist idiots have no concern for average people, they are just interested in their dinner parties.
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Old 10-24-2006, 09:18 AM
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One, I hate Fox News.

Two, it says liberal idiots, that does not mean all liberals are idiots, it means the elitist liberals that run the democratic party in New York. Why do you think Mike Bloomberg left the Democratic Party. The liberal elitist idiots have no concern for average people, they are just interested in their dinner parties.
Revolution, Bloomberg left the Democratic party because he'd have had no shot of winning the primary-- the Democratic party is very competitive here and the Republican party is in such crappy shape here it was very easy for him to spend his way to the nomination-- he spent $70 million on his campaign, for that kind of money I'd expect to get the nomination, too. And look, I'm not dissing his job as mayor-- now that he's dropped the West Side Stadium nonsense and discovered that there are four boroughs besides Manhattan in NYC I think he's done a pretty darn good job. Unlike Bush, Bloomberg actually IS a successful businessman, who, stop the presses, actually made his own money. And it shows in the job he does (just as Bush being a trust fund kid who never had to clean up one of his own messes shows in the job HE does).

What I find so interesting about the tired old "liberal elitist" crap is that no one accuses the Republicans of not giving two sh*ts about the average guy, even though they're pretty blatant about wanting to institute an American aristocracy (see the push to eliminate the estate tax). But that's okay, right? It's just the darn liberals who don't care-- why? Because some of them are rich? God forbid there be a rich Democrat. How dare they!

But to address your comment (and I'm pleased to see you don't think all liberals in Manhattan are idiots) I'm going to put your earlier post here again-- read it again and let me know where in there I could have known that you meant "The Democrats in local elected office in Manhattan wield so much power that they determine the national Presidential candidate." Because that's not at all what I get from this quote:

<<The liberal idiots in Manhattan will not allow this to happen. They love the elitist liberal candidates from the northeast. This way when they lose they can say the are good liberals who care about people, but they still get the Republican tax cuts so they can have their Hamptons home.>>

Come on, Revolution-- how would you have interpreted that post, were you a barely-middle class, non-homeowner New Yorker? Really? I'm not trying to be mean-- I like your posts a lot and if I got mad at every person who made the stupid Volvo-driving liberal elitist jab I'd have a blood pressure through the roof because liberals hear it a lot. (When I hear it now I just roll my eyes and assume the person gets his "news" from Rush-- sorry about the Fox jab, by the way). But I think generalizations are too easy-- I could easily start saying all Republicans are Jesus freaks but that's an insult to both Jesus and the average Christian and it's not true, anyway. (Though I do think a lot of right-wing Christians have gotten Christianity and capitalism confused, but that's a post for a different thread)

Revolution, if you haven't read the Rolling Stone article yet, please read it! It's really interesting (probably won't tell you anything you didn't already know or at least suspect, but it's still well done). And how many magazines let "f*ck" get into the final version of the political articles... and it's the reporter using it? An infuriating, but fun read.

Anyway, off to work. Lovely talking politics with you, as always.
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Old 10-24-2006, 11:54 AM
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theres nothinig wrong with him
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