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Old 12-17-2006, 10:20 AM
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The horse won by a pole. Shaq could have gotten that horse to the winner's circle. I actually hit the winner and the exacta in the Turfway Park prep and thought I had done some brilliant handicapping. I now realize I was extremely fortunate and have donated half the winnings to Kent's favorite charity.
Was Stormello tons the best yesterday? Or did the jock have anything at all to do with it? Lord knows if he loses, its all kents fault.
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Old 12-17-2006, 10:42 AM
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He is brutal. Without a guy like Holthus, he may be riding at River Downs.
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Old 12-17-2006, 10:51 AM
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Was Stormello tons the best yesterday? Or did the jock have anything at all to do with it? Lord knows if he loses, its all kents fault.
Well, I was pretty sure he was going to win a few more races in his career. He isn't very good in my opinion. I didn't see yesterday's race as that is in the middle of the night for me, so I can't really say at this time.

My general philosophy is that very rare is a jockey decisive in winning a race, but they can certainly lead to a loss. As I mentioned here, I rarely even know who is riding the horses I bet on.
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Old 12-17-2006, 11:04 AM
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I didn't see yesterday's race as that is in the middle of the night for me, so I can't really say at this time.
Gee, I wonder where that would be.
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Old 12-17-2006, 11:34 AM
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Kent D
Sexy Chantal
Jerry Bailey, Gary Stevens, Pat Day
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Old 12-17-2006, 01:15 PM
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Gee, I wonder where that would be.
Newfoundland?
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Old 12-17-2006, 01:20 PM
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Newfoundland?

They are an hour ahead of NY.

Slow Saturday night?
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Old 12-17-2006, 01:26 PM
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Yep, I'm working and watching football, emphasis on the latter. (It is Sunday by the way)
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Old 12-17-2006, 01:32 PM
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Yep, I'm working and watching football, emphasis on the latter. (It is Sunday by the way)
I was referring to you saying the Hollywood Futurity was past your bedtime...ya know, being that you're in Newfoundland and all.
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Old 12-17-2006, 01:37 PM
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I was referring to you saying the Hollywood Futurity was past your bedtime...ya know, being that you're in Newfoundland and all.
I'm not only bored, but brain dead at the moment.
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Old 12-17-2006, 04:00 PM
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It is rare that a jockey does much to win the race, but I've seen them screw one up before. Maybe Frankie Detorri would have won if he were on Bernardini in the Classic, he wouldn't have made him start going so soon.
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Old 12-17-2006, 09:11 PM
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Old 12-19-2006, 12:16 PM
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Scuds with all due respect your last post was a bit off. I know plenty of people from Louisiana and they are wonderfully talented and knowledgable, especially about racing.

Your post on another thread saying that Hollywood was speed favoring was pure prattle and without merit. And your selection of a wrung out, over the top Principle Secret lacked insight. With respect. BBB
Well said BBB.

Louisiana is a mecca for horse racing and, in particular, for producing good jockeys. Look at the number of jockeys who started riding in the backwaters of Louisiana and made a significant impact at the highest levels of the sport. From Eddie D. on through today . . . the list goes on. Many of today's top jockeys started riding as kids in Cajun/Creole country. Louisiana is one of the few states that boast 4 thoroughbred tracks.

Not to mention the other assets of the state -- including the fine programs at Loyola and Tulane.

The state took the brunt of a massive hurricane followed by the inept response from a corrupt national government. If Louisiana wasn't critical to the oil industry chances are people would still be drowning in flood waters today.
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Old 12-19-2006, 12:28 PM
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Well said BBB.

Louisiana is a mecca for horse racing and, in particular, for producing good jockeys. Look at the number of jockeys who started riding in the backwaters of Louisiana and made a significant impact at the highest levels of the sport. From Eddie D. on through today . . . the list goes on. Many of today's top jockeys started riding as kids in Cajun/Creole country. Louisiana is one of the few states that boast 4 thoroughbred tracks.

Not to mention the other assets of the state -- including the fine programs at Loyola and Tulane.

The state took the brunt of a massive hurricane followed by the inept response from a corrupt national government. If Louisiana wasn't critical to the oil industry chances are people would still be drowning in flood waters today.
Say anything you want,but the Principle Secret part is fiction.The riding at Delta Downs that night by the inbreds was atrocious.It was the worst I have seen all year,and that was the question asked in the poll.I would feel better about their riding skills if I knew they were trying to set it up for the horses in the back of the field.There is no good option.They are bad,or crooked.Take your pick.
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Old 12-19-2006, 01:11 PM
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Big time and Juvy Diaz should NEVER be used in the same sentence. He was good at Arlington though
lol pretty funny juvenal was mentioned considering most of the horses he rode for reavis here he actually owned himself, of course juvy would always be all out on those
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Old 12-19-2006, 01:21 PM
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[quote=DaHoss9698]While I agree with you for the most part, jocks do have somewhat an impact on what goes on. You can't tell me Johnny V, or Gomez ride the same as Clive Beech (Finger Lakes jock, and trust me, you'll be able to pick his style out right away).

No order

Robbie Albarado, I despise the man as a jock. He gets horses beat, and I can never catch the guy.

Chantal Sutherland, an easy target, and an obvious one. But in all reality, she isn't really a good jock, plain and simple. She's hot, but she can't ride a lick.

Kent D., besides being an ass hole, I can't stand the guy as a rider.


lol well this is a absolute first! somer, oracle, kasept,scc, anybody whove ive known for 5+ years since espn mark this down this is a MONUMENTAL occasion im actually going to defend kent d! i met kent along time ago and have talked to him a couple times in person since when hes come into chicago to ride! hes notta *******! yes he is overconfident about his riding ability but as a person hes a very nice guy
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Old 12-19-2006, 01:24 PM
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finally my vote.................quincy hamilton
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Old 12-19-2006, 01:28 PM
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Any jockey that doesnt win when you need him or her too. Thats the most lousy jockey.

Blaming jockeys is a common way out of hiding the fact that you made a horrendous betting decision.

Lets keep it real here folks. Dont blame the oompa lumpas, blame yourself.
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Old 12-19-2006, 01:37 PM
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Any jockey that doesnt win when you need him or her too. Thats the most lousy jockey.

Blaming jockeys is a common way out of hiding the fact that you made a horrendous betting decision.

Lets keep it real here folks. Dont blame the oompa lumpas, blame yourself.
lets face it jockeys do make mistakes from time to time and are the cause of some horses losing but not as often as some seem to think. some people think they dont matter at all when in fact they do in my opinion. 85% horse 15% rider in my book
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Old 12-19-2006, 01:40 PM
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Okay I can agree with that Playa. Sure they make mistakes a bunch but so do we as gamblers... So so much more.
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