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Old 02-03-2007, 06:07 PM
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Yeah, very heads up to shut a horse off when you have no horse.

I think that's called bad sportsmanship.
and i agree with that! these aren't CARS these people are driving. horses shouldn't end up paying a price for a jocks ego-or bad decision.

he couldn't win, so try to keep invasor from getting thru? i hope that isn't what he was thinking...
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Old 02-03-2007, 06:09 PM
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where in the heck did that word come from???
I was overdue for a ten center...
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Old 02-03-2007, 06:09 PM
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not to mention scary...if that horse had lost Kiaran would have had every right to eviscerate Jara right there on the track
he'll be lucky not to have it happen anyway. took quite a risk-i know many will be waiting to hear how invasor is doing tomorrow!
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Old 02-03-2007, 06:10 PM
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Beth throwing out the biggies. I like it.
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Old 02-03-2007, 06:11 PM
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yeah, he usually does great-first bad ride i have personally witnessed by him. bound to happen.
a little too sure maybe? probably thought those others would part like the red sea for him. ooops.
That was a Franklinesque ride today and a very impressive run by the winner.
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Old 02-03-2007, 06:13 PM
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I doubt Jara will lose his job b/c of this. His ride in the Classic and on Jazil will save him from banishment.
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Old 02-03-2007, 06:14 PM
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I am sure that Kiaran will castigate Jara. But I am sure Jara will imbibe information from this ride.
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Old 02-03-2007, 06:14 PM
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Beth throwing out the biggies. I like it.

im impressed too Rand...im just used to hearing the obscenties she spews at me every other day
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Old 02-03-2007, 06:15 PM
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I am sure that Kiaran will castigate Jara. But I am sure Jara will imbibe information from this ride.
You mean castrate.
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Old 02-03-2007, 06:17 PM
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You mean castrate.
Maybe that too, but I mean castigate. Jara would be a gelding. Or maybe Kiaran will take it easy and make Jara a ridgeling.
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Old 02-03-2007, 06:20 PM
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I don't think Jara is a bad rider (although he used bad judgement today) but I think his ride on Jazil has been soooo overrated in the Belmont. The horse ran the exact same speed the entire race. Any perceived move that Jara was making was just other horses tiring while Jazil plugged along at the same speed.

Anyone that could make weight and hold on for the ride would have won on that horse that day.
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Old 02-03-2007, 06:23 PM
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Yeah, very heads up to shut a horse off when you have no horse.

I think that's called bad sportsmanship.
They are wrong Andy---Johnny V wasn't on A.P. Arrow, that was Kent D.
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Old 02-03-2007, 06:24 PM
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The whole " Jara is a good rider " thing is total crap. He's a very mediocre rider at best. What he has been proving is that good horses overcome all.

To take a chance with a horse like that, in a spot like this, was foolish and should absolutely cause the connections to consider a rider switch.
agree, a horse like that deserves the best jock, a top jock.
I have been holding my breath every race hoping that he wouldn't throw in a clicker, well he did today.

Personally I wouldn't worry much about changing jocks at this point. Its all the horse. Invasor would make any of them look like HOF riders.
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Old 02-03-2007, 06:26 PM
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The best ride was by Johnny V. The way he rushed up to close off the hole and then geared down to trap Invasor was a thing of beauty. If Johnny V didnt do that then Jara prob would have angled out and won by 7 plus lengths. But what a heads up ride by Johnny V.
That was Desermeaux who did that on A.P. Arrow....another one of his vintage crazed rides that he is only capable of.
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Old 02-03-2007, 06:28 PM
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They are wrong Andy---Johnny V wasn't on A.P. Arrow, that was Kent D.
Well, the rider of AP Arrow had more than a right to keep him from taking his hole. Of course AP Arrow didn't start running until he got to the outside but that's another story.

I haven't watched the race carefully. I'm still pissed Invasor got through at all as I wanted Zito to win a Grade 1.
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Old 02-03-2007, 06:37 PM
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Invasor's only loss was to....................Discreet Cat. Collision course in Dubai.
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Old 02-03-2007, 06:40 PM
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Invasor's only loss was to....................Discreet Cat. Collision course in Dubai.
....and Testimony and Flemme De Passion. Somehow I don't think he brought his A game, B game, or C game that day.
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Old 02-03-2007, 06:48 PM
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where in the heck did that word come from???
not to often a word can overshadow the reigning horse of the year in his return to the winner's circle....
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Old 02-03-2007, 06:48 PM
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Jara has certainly had some big wins, but overall he has about a 10% win percentage. I think that puts him in the average (mediocre) category
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Old 02-03-2007, 06:50 PM
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Jara has certainly had some big wins, but overall he has about a 10% win percentage. I think that puts him in the average (mediocre) category
but at the top of the 18 year old jocks list.....I think the kid is gonna be a really good one
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