Dubai Duty Free

[Left Bank]

Originally Posted by SundayStar

i'll take a cheeseburger

Would you like a nice cold BEER with that?

[TitanSooner]

Originally Posted by Kimmeastar

I did have the winner,had a hundred to win on him,made some good bucks.So now what do you have to say?

REDBOARD!

[Left Bank]

Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV

And you liked ? English Channel?

Go to the second post of this thread,on the first page,or did you forget how to read?

[2Hot4TV]

Originally Posted by Danzig

no, someone else...maybe 2hot? said he was thru....

he's always shaked off the trip when he gets home. i think he'll be fine. he just doesn't like it anywhere but there.
can't say i don't understand, i'd rather be at home then anywhere too!

I said that he is done. I am a big Lava Man fan and live in California to watch him run live. The majority horses that go to Dubai do not return to form. Its called the Dubai flu around here and Lava Man will be the same.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV

I said that he is done. I am a big Lava Man fan and live in California to watch him run live. The majority horses that go to Dubai do not return to form. Its called the Dubai flu around here and Lava Man will be the same.

i don't know...his ship to japan and back didn't hurt him. as for the dubai curse, i don't buy it. invasor handled it just fine last year.

[2Hot4TV]

Originally Posted by Kimmeastar

Go to the second post of this thread,on the first page,or did you forget how to read?

You picked it ,But I don't beleive you bet it. there is no class in finding pleasure at someones defeat.

[2Hot4TV]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i don't know...his ship to japan and back didn't hurt him. as for the dubai curse, i don't buy it. invasor handled it just fine last year.

Invasor was the exception. I be in the paddock the next time he races and I hope your right. He's good for Racing.

[Left Bank]

Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV

You picked it ,But I don't beleive you bet it. there is no class in finding pleasure at someones defeat.

Whatever.I am done with you.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by pointman

What were the results? Don't have it on my tv.

6th race - Nad Al Sheba - Dubai Duty Free - March 31, 2007 Pgm Horse Win Place Show
10 Admire Moon (JPN) $14.80 $4.60
16 Linngari (IRE) $20.20
13 Daiwa Major (JPN) $5.20


$2 Exacta (10-16) Paid $339.00
$2 Trifecta (10-16-13) Paid $1,804.20
$1 Trifecta Box Paid $902.10
$2 Pick 3 (3/4/10) Paid $2,043.60 (3OF3)

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV

Invasor was the exception. I be in the paddock the next time he races and I hope your right. He's good for Racing.

i hope i'm right too! i like lava man, will always pull for him to win. just wish he hadn't faded all the way to the back today....it's a shame to see him reverse form so badly just because he leaves his home state.

[ateamstupid]

Another trip outside of California, another moonwalk by Lava Man. What a shock.

[smuthg]

did Cory even go to the whip on him? It looked like at the top of the stretch he knew he was beat

[TitanSooner]

Moonwalk.. LOL

btw, props to kimmeastar on Admire Gold.. missed your first post.

hope you seriously hit it well.

[Left Bank]

Originally Posted by TitanSooner

Moonwalk.. LOL

btw, props to kimmeastar on Admire Gold.. missed your first post.

hope you seriously hit it well.

Are you joining us for lunch, on me?

[TitanSooner]

i'm out in SH*TTY california

thanks though. Invasor just made my day.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Kimmeastar

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.Lava man showed his true class today.HE IS A CLAIMING HORSE!!!!! HE DOES NOT BELONG WITH THESE!!!! WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!! I MADE THE CALL A MONTH AGO!!!
P.S.CALIFORNIA RACING SUCKS!!!!

First of all, picking that Lava Man would not do well outside of Cali is hardly something to brag about. Everyone knew that already, and MANY people (including me) were saying that sending him to this race was a big mistake ever since it was announced. He stood no chance today, and everyone that follows American racing knew that.
Also, saying that he "showed his true class today" and calling him a "claiming horse" is just wrong. He is simply a horse that does not ship and run well. Period. It makes no sense for people to come on here and say "HE IS A SUPERSTAR!!!!" every time he wins another G1 or G2 in Cali, and it makes no sense for you to come on here and rip him when he runs poorly elsewhere. That is just what everyone expected.
He runs well at the 3 SoCal tracks.
He runs poorly everywhere else.
I would berate you more for not understanding this distinction, but since the horse's own connections can't seem to figure that out, I guess you are in good company.

[Left Bank]

Originally Posted by miraja2

First of all, picking that Lava Man would not do well outside of Cali is hardly something to brag about. Everyone knew that already, and MANY people (including me) were saying that sending him to this race was a big mistake ever since it was announced. He stood no chance today, and everyone that follows American racing knew that.
Also, saying that he "showed his true class today" and calling him a "claiming horse" is just wrong. He is simply a horse that does not ship and run well. Period. It makes no sense for people to come on here and say "HE IS A SUPERSTAR!!!!" every time he wins another G1 or G2 in Cali, and it makes no sense for you to come on here and rip him when he runs poorly elsewhere. That is just what everyone expected.
He runs well at the 3 SoCal tracks.
He runs poorly everywhere else.
I would berate you more for not understanding this distinction, but since the horse's own connections can't seem to figure that out, I guess you are in good company.

I totally disagree with you.I don't think it is a shipping problem at all.I think he just can't handle the tougher competition,Period.He hasn't raced against anything tough in California,except poor horses.To me a graded race in California is just what I said,a high priced claiming race.I think it's great that he wins there and made so much money,but greed took over his owners decisions.Anytime he goes somewhere against something decent,he gets demolished,like today.He is not the caliber of horse that everyone thinks he is.Would I like to own him?You bet.He would be at Hollywood right now instead of wasting his time in Dubai in a futile attempt to satisfy the greed of his owners.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Kimmeastar

I totally disagree with you.I don't think it is a shipping problem at all.I think he just can't handle the tougher competition,Period.He hasn't raced against anything tough in California,except poor horses.To me a graded race in California is just what I said,a high priced claiming race.I think it's great that he wins there and made so much money,but greed took over his owners decisions.Anytime he goes somewhere against something decent,he gets demolished,like today.He is not the caliber of horse that everyone thinks he is.Would I like to own him?You bet.He would be at Hollywood right now instead of wasting his time in Dubai in a futile attempt to satisfy the greed of his owners.

Well I certainly agree with you that it was ridiculous to send him to this race. In fact, I said that several times in the "Lava Man to Dubai" thread.
But your suggestion that he has no problem shipping, and that he simply can't "handle the tougher competition," is quite frankly, just wrong. It wasn't simply Invasor and Berbardini (the better competition) that beat him in the BC last year. Brother Derek also defeated him easily, but when those two squared off in Cali, Lava Man was the clear winner. His speed figures also dip considerably when he ships.
I am not saying that he would be able to defeat the Invasors of the world if the races were run in SoCal, but he would certainly be more competitive. He never runs the same races outside of SoCal that he does IN SoCal. That is jut a fact.
Let's hope they never take him out of SoCal again. Whatever way you look at it, that was just an absolutely ridiculous decision.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Well I certainly agree with you that it was ridiculous to send him to this race. In fact, I said that several times in the "Lava Man to Dubai" thread.
But your suggestion that he has no problem shipping, and that he simply can't "handle the tougher competition," is quite frankly, just wrong. It wasn't simply Invasor and Berbardini (the better competition) that beat him in the BC last year. Brother Derek also defeated him easily, but when those two squared off in Cali, Lava Man was the clear winner. His speed figures also dip considerably when he ships.
I am not saying that he would be able to defeat the Invasors of the world if the races were run in SoCal, but he would certainly be more competitive. He never runs the same races outside of SoCal that he does IN SoCal. That is jut a fact.
Let's hope they never take him out of SoCal again. Whatever way you look at it, that was just an absolutely ridiculous decision.

he is to cali what silver train was to belmont.

[Left Bank]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Well I certainly agree with you that it was ridiculous to send him to this race. In fact, I said that several times in the "Lava Man to Dubai" thread.
But your suggestion that he has no problem shipping, and that he simply can't "handle the tougher competition," is quite frankly, just wrong. It wasn't simply Invasor and Berbardini (the better competition) that beat him in the BC last year. Brother Derek also defeated him easily, but when those two squared off in Cali, Lava Man was the clear winner. His speed figures also dip considerably when he ships.
I am not saying that he would be able to defeat the Invasors of the world if the races were run in SoCal, but he would certainly be more competitive. He never runs the same races outside of SoCal that he does IN SoCal. That is jut a fact.
Let's hope they never take him out of SoCal again. Whatever way you look at it, that was just an absolutely ridiculous decision.

Brother Derek is a Piece of sh_t,So beating him does not add any glory to Lava Man.In fact it demotes him even more in my book.
But I agree with you,Let's keep him in SoCal,where the competition is easy for him.But it will be interesting to see how he recovers from this trouncing.