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[Lava]

Originally Posted by Scav

I am probably not going to do it BUT it can and would work. Look at Sumwon's partnership, exactly the same thing, same investment just one you get an animal, the other you get some juice for four hours.

None of this should go down without Steve's blessing anyways

I also would say Steve would have to give the ok before I would join in on it

Originally Posted by The Bid

PGD, you dont have a clue what you are talking about welching a hundred dollar bet. Get real you d bag

Did I say anything about a 100 dollar bet? You just fried yourself you frikkin liar. Pay up. You dont owe me a thing. But it is very clear there is someone you do owe. Damn I hate liars.

[ALostTexan]

I would be another that would buy in for $50 shares, up to $200 or so. I would contribute to the fund if there was simply an explaination of the selections by the committee, but wouldn't want any say in the selections.

[The Bid]

Youre a dumbass. If you knew me youd know the last thing Im worried about is welching a 100 dollar bet you pecker. You better talk to your buddy before you talk out of turn on me welching any bet, or debt.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I knew someone would bring up the Sumwon thing and I was going to address it. Sumwon has been fun for all involved and Chuck has done a great job with her. But had the horse that was picked out turned out to be really bad, or never started, I feel like there would have been some sour people. The Dee Tee partners have been very lucky as they have gotten a nice little filly. Doesn't always happen like that. Again, not trying to be a downer, just honest.

I don't agree. People knew what they were getting involved with, and they knew the possible outcomes. Do you honestly think that people that would get into this would EXPECT to hit a pick six? The sun was shining on my ass three weeks ago, and honestly, I'll probably never hit another one in my life. Today I wanted to spend $2500 and I would have hit 1 race out of 6.....

All something like this does is give people that don't want to get nuts and drop 1k into a ticket the opportunity to hit something, this is alot like Rupert did today, his friend played a $3800 ticket or something, and he bought $50 of it. He owned 1.3% of that ticket and if they would have hit, he would have gotten back $7488 on that $50

[ALostTexan]

I would have to say, though, that a great deal of thought and paperwork would be in store. I don't know the legality of such a partnership in these bets, but I think it would probably have to be set up like a horse-ownership partnership.

I just wouldn't want it to get to a point that we would take down a pot like today, and then have to consider the legalities after $500K+.

[ArlJim78]

I can picture the DerbyTrail pick six syndicate now.

take the dialog between pgrdn and the bid, and times by 100.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I knew someone would bring up the Sumwon thing and I was going to address it. Sumwon has been fun for all involved and Chuck has done a great job with her. But had the horse that was picked out turned out to be really bad, or never started, I feel like there would have been some sour people. The Dee Tee partners have been very lucky as they have gotten a nice little filly. Doesn't always happen like that. Again, not trying to be a downer, just honest.

DaHoss: you bring up a valid point....not every venture succeeds! The Partners were fortunate to have Chuck, and it turned out well for the initial foray into horse ownership! On the P-6 deal.... there has to be trust...much of it should've built up during DTs' Inaugural Year! We pretty much know the players...and the payers! The share thing would be the best way to play and not feel badly in not hitting the big one....it is entertainment after all

[The Bid]

I cant take the foolishness of PGA, hes knocked around this bet for months and he doesnt have the slightest clue what hes talking about.

Originally Posted by The Bid

Youre a dumbass. If you knew me youd know the last thing Im worried about is welching a 100 dollar bet you pecker. You better talk to your buddy before you talk out of turn on me welching any bet, or debt.

So you paid? You admitted yourself you did not pay up. Did you forget?
Or just "I will get to it?"

I would feel guilty as hell if I were you. Somewhere along the line people have to be able to trust one another. And then you come along. Dont put up money if you cant pay. Just keep your mouth shut if you cant come through. Everyone on this board should pressure you to DO WHAT IS RIGHT.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Why would you not expect to hit something? Isn't that the point of betting? I of course realize when I bet that there is a strong possibilty that I will lose, but I expect to hit bets when I put them in. Good luck guys getting this off of the ground, but it seems like a lot of work.

Dude come on....You are telling me that every bet you put in you expect to hit? I'll tell you this, I hope I hit 10% of my wagers on the day because I know I'll be up money. I risk on certain things becuase if they hit, I'll get paid, but I don't expect to hit them

[Scav]

Originally Posted by pgardn

So you paid? You admitted yourself you did not pay up. Did you forget?
Or just "I will get to it?"

I would feel guilty as hell if I were you. Somewhere along the line people have to be able to trust one another. And then you come along. Dont put up money if you cant pay. Just keep your mouth shut if you cant come through. Everyone on this board should pressure you to DO WHAT IS RIGHT.

Guys, you are jacking a thread that is meaningful....

[The Bid]

Listen buddy, the deal was taken care of, just because you dont know the particulars is no reason to get shitty or stupid.

I cant even get into the most ignorant part of your message telling me if I cant handle the hundred I shouldnt bet it.

Sorry Scav, I cant take it on the 100 dollar welched debt. Its got me steamed

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Why would you not expect to hit something? Isn't that the point of betting? I of course realize when I bet that there is a strong possibilty that I will lose, but I expect to hit bets when I put them in. Good luck guys getting this off of the ground, but it seems like a lot of work.

it doesn't have to hit every pick six to be successful, of course every time you play you play to win, but you're going to lose for sure. but I would think playing with a larger bankroll will really up the hit rate compared to going it alone with $100 or $200. Not sure if it would work myself but I'm willing to try.

Originally Posted by Scav

Guys, you are jacking a thread that is meaningful....

Scavs people need to be aware of who they can and cannot trust. The vast majority of the people on here I would be very comfortable with. Sorry for the interjection. But there are people who do not honor obligations. Carry on. It is an interesting thread and I apologize.

[Past Post]

When I form this group its goals are winning money not just having fun.If I want to have fun I can go to a carnival.Like I say before,if this takes off and its show a profit along the way,there will be alot of riders coming aboard.Like I said I will come up with an idea to make this happen and work.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Okay, maybe not every single bet, but honestly Scavs within the last few months I have really tried to curb my tilt playing. I see what you are saying and of course you risk to get paid, but don't you risk on your opinion? I trust my opinion, although it has been piss poor lately. This is all semantics. Like I said, good luck to whoever gets in on it.

Sure you risk on your opinion, but they way you stated it was that there was no risk in this. My guess is that you could go two years before hitting this, but just imagine if a total of 100 people had 20k invested into a syndicate, and today was the day that you nailed it, for 600k+, pipedream yes, but minorly possible

Some days you go for the guster, some days you go for the hit. Today I spent $216 and I went for the hit, the most logical way and I got gots, I'll guarantee you if I had 3k to drop on this bitch today, I could have gotten to the final leg, but I doubt I would have had that 9.....

Originally Posted by pgardn

Scavs people need to be aware of who they can and cannot trust. The vast majority of the people on here I would be very comfortable with. Sorry for the interjection. But there are people who do not honor obligations. Carry on. It is an interesting thread and I apologize.

Nobody said Bid would be in charge of the money did they? Then why bring it up? That stuff is for PM's.

[The Bid]

Youre a goddamn buffoon PGA, probably the biggest on here for some of the dumbshit youve said in the last few threads.

I mean its a joke, and it is for a PM, but this guy doesnt even know me well enough to send me a PM. Hes completely off base. I expect an apology from this clown, welching a hundred dollar bet, you think Im 12?

[Scav]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I totally understand the point you guys are making. I'm just looking at the other aspect of it. All I am saying is this is the internet and while we are all "friends" there is little to no accountability.

Both Steve and Chuck have accountability with the agreements that people signed do they not, it could be the same type of thing. I have met neither of them, but I trust them