OJ Sentencing

Hey somerseve...

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Hey somerseve...

Obviously, you don't believe in our criminal justice system.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

I agree he's a pathetic person, but I question the sentence based on the details of the event as reported....perhaps the judge had info that we do not, I don't know but it seems pretty steep....again, all I'm saying is that the sentence SHOULD reflect this case only...I can't see inside the judge's mind but I think the concern is valid enough to express.
Of course I remember the results of the civil case, but in Civil Court, the standard of proof is a lot lower, he wasn't found "guilty" he was held "responsible"...we don't use civil decisions against a person's criminal record!
How do you know the decision was racist? As I said, I would have voted not guilty and last time I checked, I was white....let me look again.........yep, still white. How can one vote to convict with a clear conscience when an admittedly racist cop handled key evidence, the same cop who admitted planting evidence in the past on black defendants because they were involved with a white woman, and bragged that he would do it again? When several other investigating officers shared his views, when key evidence was carried around in an officer's trunk instead of being turned into the evidence locker thus violating chain-of-custody regs, when the time line never quite fit, when Simpson's medical condition raised questions concerning his physical ability to commit such a violent act(s), and yes...when the damn glove didn't fit!!! (i know all about the science there but the glove didn't fit in front of the jury and the inept prosecutors had no answer). Simpson had the dream team and Darden and what's her name had no answers to much of the science...I mean hell, Simpson had F. Lee Bailey third chair!!! Bottom line...the case as presented fell well short of "beyond a reasonable doubt". I watched the circus every day, right or wrong, the jury had little choice...to call it racist is over-simplistic at best!

i disagree that furmans being part of the case was enough to produce reasonable doubt.
a finding of not guily in no way means innocent. that a lot of people feel he's finally getting delayed justice is in no way shocking, or worth of condemnation.

[cowgirlintexas]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Arletta!!!!

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Obviously, you don't believe in our criminal justice system.

Of course not.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Payson Dave

fwiw..
Somer for the most part I don't see alot (some but not a lot) that I disagree with in your post....it does seem like you are saying that there was some "get even" or "balancing of the scales"..... that might be your opinion, but not necassarilly fact....

perhaps some see "justice" differently than you..... maybe even some see karma as a form of "higher justice"....and that may explain the "vulturistic joy" that seems to be bothering you.

Dave,
Sorry if I implied that the judge DID use the sentencing to "get even", I think I stated several times in different posts that i surely don't KNOW that for a fact, merely that it was a concern that it may have happened. Also, to reiterate, it appears very likely that the sentence will be appealed so that will determine a lot imo...if the sentence is upheld then end of story. Regarding concepts of "justice"...if I address that issue then I'll be accused of preaching again, I guess a short comment would be ...it depends upon one's belief regarding dominion of "justice"

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i disagree that furmans being part of the case was enough to produce reasonable doubt.
a finding of not guily in no way means innocent. that a lot of people feel he's finally getting delayed justice is in no way shocking, or worth of condemnation.

Mrs Z, if you recall, I listed a litany of concerns regarding the evidence. We can disagree on the importance of an admittedly racist cop handling key evidence after admitting to having "planted" evidence in the past. Not guilty in the context of the legal system is the same as innocent, I agree that morally it is not.

[King Glorious]

I'll say it for you. She absolutely did use this opportunity to get even. That's why she went through the trouble of stressing that this was exactly what she wasn't doing. Otherwise, there's no point in even mentioning that. If she's doing her job as she's supposed to be, it wouldn't even be a thought that her sentencing would have anything to do with the previous case. But she KNEW this sentence was ridiculous and that everyone would jump to that conclusion.

Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
Romans 12:19

[Mortimer]

EAUXH .....well then the racist limo driver removed the Bronco when he arrived...and put it back when he left.

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I'll say it for you. She absolutely did use this opportunity to get even. That's why she went through the trouble of stressing that this was exactly what she wasn't doing. Otherwise, there's no point in even mentioning that. If she's doing her job as she's supposed to be, it wouldn't even be a thought that her sentencing would have anything to do with the previous case. But she KNEW this sentence was ridiculous and that everyone would jump to that conclusion.

Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
Romans 12:19

Don't quote that make believe s.hit.

[Payson Dave]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I'll say it for you. She absolutely did use this opportunity to get even. That's why she went through the trouble of stressing that this was exactly what she wasn't doing. Otherwise, there's no point in even mentioning that. If she's doing her job as she's supposed to be, it wouldn't even be a thought that her sentencing would have anything to do with the previous case. But she KNEW this sentence was ridiculous and that everyone would jump to that conclusion.

Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
Romans 12:19

hmmm.....is this an opinion or is it undeniable fact????


opinions are kinda like assholes.....just because you have one does not mean you have to wave it around in everyones face...

[somerfrost]

[quote=King Glorious]I'll say it for you. She absolutely did use this opportunity to get even. That's why she went through the trouble of stressing that this was exactly what she wasn't doing. Otherwise, there's no point in even mentioning that. If she's doing her job as she's supposed to be, it wouldn't even be a thought that her sentencing would have anything to do with the previous case. But she KNEW this sentence was ridiculous and that everyone would jump to that conclusion.

Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
Romans 12:19[/QUOTE

I understand how you feel but again, the system will decide...the sentence will be appealed and that should answer the question of fairness...only the judge knows what her decision was based upon. I'm sure Simpson's legal team will look at her previous sentencing structure and see if this is in line or not and that will be part of the appeal if different.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I'll say it for you. She absolutely did use this opportunity to get even. That's why she went through the trouble of stressing that this was exactly what she wasn't doing. Otherwise, there's no point in even mentioning that. If she's doing her job as she's supposed to be, it wouldn't even be a thought that her sentencing would have anything to do with the previous case. But she KNEW this sentence was ridiculous and that everyone would jump to that conclusion.

Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
Romans 12:19

i disagree.
you know, if more people got sentences with teeth in them, maybe they wouldn't get in trouble a second time around. an armed robbery and kidnapping, basically that's what occurred. he's lucky he only got what he got.

[somerfrost]

Mrs Z, you're using a generalized argument in a specific case.

[Mortimer]

The racist limo driver also saw a large white man entering the house the about 10:55...not a black man.


The racist house guest,Kay-Toe ,( Simpsons lee-tel yallow frand) just minutes before the large white man entered the house heard Fuhrman planting the glove behind his room.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Mrs Z, you're using a generalized argument in a specific case.

so?

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i disagree.
you know, if more people got sentences with teeth in them, maybe they wouldn't get in trouble a second time around. an armed robbery and kidnapping, basically that's what occurred. he's lucky he only got what he got.

I believe that's an over-exxaggeration of what really happened. He went in there to take back his own stuff that was stolen from him. Nobody was hurt. The issue should be with the courts and the system for not convicting him the first time. This court shouldn't be allowed to make up for previous decision. This court's job was to rule on the merits of this case only and impose a punishment for this case only. This court's job is not to impose any vengeance, karma, or anything of that nature.

Originally Posted by Payson Dave

hmmm.....is this an opinion or is it undeniable fact????

It's obviously an opinion but I 100% believe it to be fact.

[Mortimer]

The racist cops also badly cut Simpsons finger...and erased from his memory how it was cut the day of the murders.

They did input..."maybe golfing--I'm always cutting myself golfing."

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I believe that's an over-exxaggeration of what really happened. He went in there to take back his own stuff that was stolen from him. Nobody was hurt. The issue should be with the courts and the system for not convicting him the first time. This court shouldn't be allowed to make up for previous decision. This court's job was to rule on the merits of this case only and impose a punishment for this case only. This court's job is not to impose any vengeance, karma, or anything of that nature.



It's obviously an opinion but I 100% believe it to be fact.

ok, well...if someone stole something from me, i'd call the police, rather than hire a bunch of goons, and go into a room with guns drawn. i'd say that if anyone is over-exaggerating, it's simpson and his 'story' of how he was just trying to retrieve what was his. maybe he just felt it was 'his' because it has his name signed on it.
as for 'no one was hurt', that has nothing to do with it. a whole lot of people sitting in jail right now wish they could use that defense, which really isn't one.
and i disagree that the sentence in this case was for others as well. it's in line with the crimes he was charged with and found guilty of committing.

[Mortimer]

This last legal matter of Simpson's.....Fuhrman planted the guns,the gunmen and Simpson in that hotel room.