6/27-28 (BEL): Mother Goose (G1); First Flight H. (G2)

[pointman]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

No she had a knuclehead ride by her jock

I agree. Drugs look at the early fractions, why Castellano was dueling with the 4 is beyond bizzare to me. His ride was a disgrace.

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

She won two of her last three by 20 lengths! The above quotes make it seem like she's been in a complete drive to do it over and over when it's been the opposite.

Her connections did the right thing in skipping the Belmont and they've obviously been rewarded with a filly who's still just as good as she was earlier in the spring. I just don't understand how you or anyone could watch that effort and wonder if she can continue to run at a high level when it's exactly what she's done now for the better part of five months.

NT

How do you quote three posts at once? That's very cool.

I question whether or not she can because (a) It's fun to play devils advocate (b) I enjoy finding favorites to try beat down the road and (c) The road from here does not get any easier.

I don't think my comments call for bolded repeats, multiple quotes and sarcasm. I'm just talking for the sake of discussions, which is fun in horse racing, and in my opinion, has some legit merit in this case.

[letswastemoney]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

Moss

"we will find a way to make this happen"

I for one want it to be at CD, give RA 10 pounds, match race to boot.....so when Zenyatta beats her there is no excuse ( :

A match race would be horribly unfair to the slow to get moving Zenyatta, if anything she should be given the weight break

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

A match race would be horribly unfair to the slow to get moving Zenyatta, if anything she should be given the weight break

Its perfectly fair, if Zenyatta is the real deal then she should win.

Zenyatta is to Easy Goer as RA is to Sunday Silence.....and in each case and in this the better horse will prove out.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

Its perfectly fair, if Zenyatta is the real deal then she should win.

Zenyatta is to Easy Goer as RA is to Sunday Silence.....and in each case and in this the better horse will prove out.

Thankfully Steve is in the Dottie/Moss's inner circle and we will all be privy to what Dottie Jerry and Ann have in mind soon..

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Thankfully Steve is in the Dottie/Moss's inner circle and we will all be privy to what Dottie Jerry and Ann have in mind soon..

lol, your killing me this week.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

lol, your killing me this week.

Byk can certainly toss some batting practice fast balls. "Dottie, its Steve, "Steve who" oh Steve Byk...Dottie, I guess that ankle is OK.. Is John ok shipping her East?...Steve Who? "Oh Steve Byk, Steve look we are looking at all are options have a nice day" Thx Dottie You are the Best....

Folks you have no idea how hard of a decision this is but I think we will know very soon where Zenyatta is going to show up.........BUT the Moss's RULE

[Bobby Fischer]

fast time

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer

fast time

maidens went in 108, par for the race was probably lower by a second based on the track. you think they wanted it a little souped up for the big horse?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

maidens went in 108, par for the race was probably lower by a second based on the track. you think they wanted it a little souped up for the big horse?

No, they didn't want it " souped up. " I imagine the two inches of rain we got Friday, in about 15 minutes, had something to do with that.

You really should know better.

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

You really should know better.

As should Tom Durkin when, despite the circumstances, he starts screaming about Rachel setting a stakes record.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

No, they didn't want it " souped up. " I imagine the two inches of rain we got Friday, in about 15 minutes, had something to do with that.

You really should know better.

it rains everyday there doesnt it....sure did for the open

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by Cardus

His call of the race was over the top, if not an embarrassment.

Its been like that for a decade, I think he is trying to one up Vic.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Cardus

His call of the race was over the top, if not an embarrassment.

Embarassing? I don't really see that. Poor Tom can't get any love. I thought it was a great call.

NT

[the_fat_man]

You know, I **** with Vic Stauffer whenever I get a chance to on this forum

but compared to VS, Durkin not only comes across as a DOOFUS in his calls but a clueless one at that. He must really believe that his audience is less knowledgeable than even he is when it comes to races.

I'm at the point where I actually miss Marshall Cassidy, the ultimate DOOFUS race caller. And, if Imbriale would time the start a little better (he's on internet start time) I might want him as the 1st string NY race caller.

Definitely time for Durkin to hang it up. Maybe we can get Arrrrrrrrrrrrrr to run up at Sar and send Durkin out in style.

[tector]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

Its perfectly fair, if Zenyatta is the real deal then she should win.

Zenyatta is to Easy Goer as RA is to Sunday Silence.....and in each case and in this the better horse will prove out.

At the risk of invoking what is, by far, the worst memory I have of any race, this is much more like Bayakoa and Go For Wand. That was easily the most eagerly anticipated BC race that year, and for 95% of the way it lived up to its billing.

I am creeped out just typing that observation.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

You know, I **** with Vic Stauffer whenever I get a chance to on this forum

but compared to VS, Durkin not only comes across as a DOOFUS in his calls but a clueless one at that. He must really believe that his audience is less knowledgeable than even he is when it comes to races.

I'm at the point where I actually miss Marshall Cassidy, the ultimate DOOFUS race caller. And, if Imbriale would time the start a little better (he's on internet start time) I might want him as the 1st string NY race caller.

Definitely time for Durkin to hang it up. Maybe we can get Arrrrrrrrrrrrrr to run up at Sar and send Durkin out in style.

Cassidy was great. You had to love how in a sprint race, they would be crossing the finish line and he'd be saying "they're off". Seriously, I thought he was the second best I've ever heard behind Denman.

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by tector

At the risk of invoking what is, by far, the worst memory I have of any race, this is much more like Bayakoa and Go For Wand. That was easily the most eagerly anticipated BC race that year, and for 95% of the way it lived up to its billing.

I am creeped out just typing that observation.

I've got to say, that's exactly what's been running through my head. Especially when, prior to the Preakness, Go For Wand got brought up as a possible comparison for Rachel (although some said you could really only look to Genuine Risk and Winning Colors). I'm sure the striking faces of both fillies has something to do with it. If RA were a chestnut or had a star instead, I wonder if we'd have jumped so quickly to GFW. I'd be afraid we wouldn't get many takers if the prospective entrants of a race had to face both Zenyatta and RA. I know some folks still get excited by match races, but since Ruffian the idea always makes me nervous.

[tector]

I have no phobia of match races per se. Many races are effectively match races anyway. I mean, look at the Mother Goose today. You had two fillies run at each other, and had one more filly who just did her own thing behind them--they frontunners didn't dictate anything to her.

Now, hypothetically, if RA wasn't actually back there 4 lengths behind them, would this now 2 filly "match race" somehow have become more "dangerous" than the race that was actually run today? I don't see how anyone can maintain that without resorting to pure voodoo.

Still, I'd rather see RA and Zenyatta in a "real" race, at least if they are only going to meet just once (and even once is still a longshot).

[letswastemoney]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

Its perfectly fair, if Zenyatta is the real deal then she should win.

Zenyatta is to Easy Goer as RA is to Sunday Silence.....and in each case and in this the better horse will prove out.

A match race between RA and Zenyatta would have RA setting fractions of what I imagine would be 24, 48 and 1:12 or something like that. Can you imagine the early part of the race being any different? And if RA can set those types of fractions in any race, how can she lose?