vick in philly

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Much ado about nothing.

I doubt he will be the kind of weapon for the Eagles many people think.

If the Fish don't score 4 TD's on an unprepared Pats defense - each of them with Chad Pennington lined up as a wide reciever - no one rationally expects Vick to be that much of a weapon coming out of jail.

He's basically an athlete - who's a lot more of a passing threat out of the wildcat. A formation that probably won't fool any competent defense now that it has been studied longer.

I'm surprised the Raiders didn't throw big money at both him and Usain Bolt .. they could run the wildcat with those two in the backfield .. and have the real housewives of New York - or just 5 movie theater turnstiles manning the offensive line.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by Gander

You know what I meant (in bold). I dont think Vick needs to be placed on high alert for the potential of killing a human. I think what most people agree to (whether you like or dislike dogs), it takes a very sick individual to be able to committ that kind of abuse to an animal, and going further to actually take pleasure in it and view it as an accepted lifestyle is just plain insane.

Hey King, hows your jump shot?

I believe very much that people are products of their invironment. Doesn't mean that they can't change but when you grow up with something as part of the norm, how do you learn that it's not the norm? And even if it's something that I you wouldn't ever do (and I'd never get involved in doing it), I have seen it many times. Grew up with people that did it. It just doesn't illicit the outrage in me. I've had people tell me that they don't know how I can watch racing because the jockeys beat the horses with whips until their little bones break and they die and then they are shot and killed on the track. I'm not putting it on the same level as dog fighting/killing but when you think about it and be honest, it is a brutal sport and and a lot of people that love horses think racing is barbaric. For me though, it's normal.

[alysheba4]

Originally Posted by Gander

I dont think it takes a dog lover to be disgusted over what Vick did. I'm not a dog lover and the guy makes me cringe. Hes obviously a sick person and I doubt is any better now. I dont really think hes that remorseful over what he did to many living creatures, I think hes more remorseful over the fact he got nabbed and had to throw away 2 years of doing what he loves to do, earning multi millions in the process.

As far as being able to play, well in my opinion he should. A guy like this is probably better off being able to work and be distracted. Its only football, nothing but entertainment. No different to me than making movies and how many actors/actresses would we have left to make movies if their jobs were taken away from doing hideous things? Its not like this guy is a jockey or a Doctor, where what he does so adamantly affects others. Hes only a football player.

.........he should be shown the "gander punishment " take him up in a small plane, about 150 feet over shark infested waters and kick his ass out......shark bait.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Scuds, Turkish horse in Saratoga's last!!!

Winning Owner/Breeder: Selcuk Tamgac

Probably goes by the name "Chuck."

[johnny pinwheel]

whats all this serial killer crap! because they gamble on dog fighting. they will become serial killers? thats a croc of sh!^! you know how many people BET on these things? why do you think he was doing it? just to torture dogs? people get all emotional over things and lose all perspective. i love dogs and think he was wrong for this, but now hes a murderer and serial killer. are there some wacko peta people posting here? or maybe they don't understand that in many places dog and cock fighting are acceppted gambling ventures. not that i'm condoning what he did, but calling people serial killers and murderers is quite a stretch! man, there must be thousands of serial killers out there because thats how many people would bet on this sort of thing. face it, he did it for the money and had many ,many acomplances. that part of the country must be teaming with serial killers.....lol

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel

whats all this serial killer crap! because they gamble on dog fighting. they will become serial killers? thats a croc of sh!^! you know how many people BET on these things? why do you think he was doing it? just to torture dogs? people get all emotional over things and lose all perspective. i love dogs and think he was wrong for this, but now hes a murderer and serial killer. are there some wacko peta people posting here? or maybe they don't understand that in many places dog and cock fighting are acceppted gambling ventures. not that i'm condoning what he did, but calling people serial killers and murderers is quite a stretch! man, there must be thousands of serial killers out there because thats how many people would bet on this sort of thing. face it, he did it for the money and had many ,many acomplances. that part of the country must be teaming with serial killers.....lol

easy now...

no one called vick a serial killer. what was said was that many serial killers started out with torturing and killing animals before ultimately turning to humans. has nothing to do with gambling..

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel

whats all this serial killer crap! because they gamble on dog fighting. they will become serial killers? thats a croc of sh!^! you know how many people BET on these things? why do you think he was doing it? just to torture dogs? people get all emotional over things and lose all perspective. i love dogs and think he was wrong for this, but now hes a murderer and serial killer. are there some wacko peta people posting here? or maybe they don't understand that in many places dog and cock fighting are acceppted gambling ventures. not that i'm condoning what he did, but calling people serial killers and murderers is quite a stretch! man, there must be thousands of serial killers out there because thats how many people would bet on this sort of thing. face it, he did it for the money and had many ,many acomplances. that part of the country must be teaming with serial killers.....lol

He murdered dogs that "underperformed." I am writing specifically about him(not other people betting at the dog fights.) There was nothing inside him that told him that it's disgusting to do that. He doesn't have that in him. Most people do. Not saying he has killed people before. I am saying that there is nothing natural inside him that keeps him from killing people. The only thing keeping him from killing dogs or people is the realization that others find it wrong, and he will be separated from his loved ones (if he does it.) Twenty years from now, intoxicated by something, and somebody says something he doesn't like? Yea, he could kill again. Under stress, in a weak moment etc., he could do this again, and it probably won't be "just a dog."

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by Danzig

easy now...

no one called vick a serial killer. what was said was that many serial killers started out with torturing and killing animals before ultimately turning to humans. has nothing to do with gambling..

Not true. Read what scuds said. It clearly implies that even though Vick is not a serial killer, he basically is. He said anyone that can do one can do the other and anyone that doesn't have a problem with him also has the same problem.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Not true. Read what scuds said. It clearly implies that even though Vick is not a serial killer, he basically is. He said anyone that can do one can do the other and anyone that doesn't have a problem with him also has the same problem.

i don't think what he wrote clearly implies that.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

I have written(in this thread) about Vick, and people that can kill dogs the way he did. Also wrote about those in the NFL that so hospitably welcomed him back, because I think most of them think whatever he wanted to do with his dogs was his business (and many are like him.) I didn't write about King Glorious etc.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Not true. Read what scuds said. It clearly implies that even though Vick is not a serial killer, he basically is. He said anyone that can do one can do the other and anyone that doesn't have a problem with him also has the same problem.

Serial killer implies someone is hunting for people to kill. In other words, strangers. I have no reason to believe he would do that, but I think he could easily kill someone that he didn't like. Someone that upset him, or did him wrong (like he thought some of his dogs did.) He didn't kill them randomly. They upset him. Yes, I believe if you can do what he did to those dogs, then you could easily kill people you're mad at.

[Smooth Operator]

Those No. 7 jerseys reportedly selling like hot cakes in Philly

[King Glorious]

Standing ovation entering the stadium. Standing ovation whenever he came on the field. Standing ovation after completing that 13-yd pass. The fans there love him. He came in on the second play of the game. He looked ok. They lined him up at quarterback and let him drop back and pass. They had him throw a couple of shovel passes. Had him take off and run on one play and even lined him up in the slot on another. On a couple of plays he was at quarterback, McNabb was in there lined up wide. There was a definite excitement and anticipation on every play and I think it's going to be really interesting to see how this plays out. I think it's going to be great.

[3kings]

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator

Those No. 7 jerseys reportedly selling like hot cakes in Philly

They are selling well in Atlanta too.