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[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

the spread would be double figures any way you cut it. At least 2 touchdowns.

What does it matter, FL will never schedule them

[ddthetide]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Florida would crush them. I'd think Florida/Alabama or Oklahoma/Texas or USC/Oregon would be bigger deals than Boise St. vs. anyone.

not if the game was on the "smurf turf" the spread would be lower too.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by ddthetide

not if the game was on the "smurf turf" the spread would be lower too.

They could play that game anywhere on anything. Boise State wouldn't get close to Florida.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

They could play that game anywhere on anything. Boise State wouldn't get close to Florida.

Agreed. That is a totally different class of horse.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Yes, OU had to play with some bum that took all the way until his second start until he set the school record for TD passes in a game. If he had any talent he would have done it in his first start.

Whether I believe Florida would beat Alabama is irrelevant. I think rankings should be based on what you have done so far, not on what I speculate you could do. And after last weeks results I think Alabama now has the superior resume and should be #1. If Florida wins at LSU this week then they'll have the stronger resume and go back on top. The biggest problem with rankings is people get too focused on where they had a team ranked last week instead of objectively looking at the big picture again every week.

who in the country goes in and wins in blacksburgh in those wet windy conditions? maybe 1 or 2 teams in the country tops , don't rate alabama as some world beaters va tech has never played well outside of blacksbugh in big spots....had the tide won that game in blacksburgh instead of the dome i could see your point...while Tenn stinks this year , their defense still has NFL talent on it and can hold it's own against most sec teams

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Florida would crush them. I'd think Florida/Alabama or Oklahoma/Texas or USC/Oregon would be bigger deals than Boise St. vs. anyone.

did you actually happen to see Oregon play Boise State?? The game I saw, Oregon didn't get a first down in the first half. Which game did you watch?? Boise State vs anyone?? I saw them vs Oregon. It was a total massacre. Fresno State gave undefeated Big 10 and Big East teams much better games on the road than they gave Boise State at home. It is what it is.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

did you actually happen to see Oregon play Boise State?? The game I saw, Oregon didn't get a first down in the first half. Which game did you watch?? Boise State vs anyone?? I saw them vs Oregon. It was a total massacre. Fresno State gave undefeated Big 10 and Big East teams much better games on the road than they gave Boise State at home. It is what it is.

That's besides the point though. The point was which matchup would be a bigger game, not which team is better. The USC/Oregon is shaping up to likely be for the Pac-10 title and BCS berth. It's going to have a hell of a lot riding on it, especially for USC. With a win, with the way the schedule is going to play out for other teams, it could mean putting them in the title game. As for which team is better, I have no argument with you saying that Boise St. dominated them that night. But since then, I think the teams have gone in opposite directions. Boise St. struggled with Fresno St. Fresno actually outgained Boise in passing and rushing yards and had more first downs. Boise was very unimpressive against UC-Davis and that's not even a division one school. Oregon has improved immensely from that opening game, which I thought was at Boise. If teams stayed at one level throughout the season, you'd have to give Boise the advantage. But they don't.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

That's besides the point though. The point was which matchup would be a bigger game, not which team is better. The USC/Oregon is shaping up to likely be for the Pac-10 title and BCS berth. It's going to have a hell of a lot riding on it, especially for USC. With a win, with the way the schedule is going to play out for other teams, it could mean putting them in the title game. As for which team is better, I have no argument with you saying that Boise St. dominated them that night. But since then, I think the teams have gone in opposite directions. Boise St. struggled with Fresno St. Fresno actually outgained Boise in passing and rushing yards and had more first downs. Boise was very unimpressive against UC-Davis and that's not even a division one school. Oregon has improved immensely from that opening game, which I thought was at Boise. If teams stayed at one level throughout the season, you'd have to give Boise the advantage. But they don't.

well, you can look at the Fresno State thing several ways. Fresno also outgained Wisconsin and Cincinnati on the road while neither of those teams gained the 500 total yards Boise did against them on the road. So we can spin and spin and spin to make the argument go our way. Fresno State beat UC-Davis 51-0. They also played Boise who scored 51 on them. I wouldn't take the UC-Davis game so seriously.

There may be 50 to 100 teams better than Boise State. They killed Oregon and went on the road and beat an ok Fresno team scoring over 50. They are what they are and it is likely they are going undefeated again which many people don't like. I hope they lose so the whining won't get out of control again about the non-BCS schools. Kellen Moore is a great "college" quarterback. They aren't going to lose however. Gonna be fun. Every Boise State game has a lot riding on it. Just as much as the Oregon/USC game. They are all for the BCS for Boise State. Unlike the big conference games, they can't lose. Simply can't. That's how the system works.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

well, you can look at the Fresno State thing several ways. Fresno also outgained Wisconsin and Cincinnati on the road while neither of those teams gained the 500 total yards Boise did against them on the road. So we can spin and spin and spin to make the argument go our way. Fresno State beat UC-Davis 51-0. They also played Boise who scored 51 on them. I wouldn't take the UC-Davis game so seriously.

There may be 50 to 100 teams better than Boise State. They killed Oregon and went on the road and beat an ok Fresno team scoring over 50. They are what they are and it is likely they are going undefeated again which many people don't like. I hope they lose so the whining won't get out of control again about the non-BCS schools. Kellen Moore is a great "college" quarterback. They aren't going to lose however. Gonna be fun.

Again, it's not about which team is better so I'm not going to get into a debate about how good Boise is versus how good Fresno is. Neither team, to me, is relevant to the big picture. The conversation was which game would be a bigger game and I still believe that a game that will probably decide the Pac-10 champion and their BCS bid and possibly a berth in the title game is a bigger game than any Boise St. game. That's not saying Oregon or USC is better. That's a different conversation.

[randallscott35]

Ummm, Rutgers is not in any of your top 10s? Not good.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Again, it's not about which team is better so I'm not going to get into a debate about how good Boise is versus how good Fresno is. Neither team, to me, is relevant to the big picture. The conversation was which game would be a bigger game and I still believe that a game that will probably decide the Pac-10 champion and their BCS bid and possibly a berth in the title game is a bigger game than any Boise St. game. That's not saying Oregon or USC is better. That's a different conversation.

In a strange way, I think Boise State is both massively overrated and massively underrated at the same time. It's much easier to argue for Mountain West teams as there are at least usually a couple pretty good teams every year there. Boise State sits on an island. The Mountain West would be a much better fit for them.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

In a strange way, I think Boise State is both massively overrated and massively underrated at the same time. It's much easier to argue for Mountain West teams as there are at least usually a couple pretty good teams every year there. Boise State sits on an island. The Mountain West would be a much better fit for them.

Boise earned respect from me a couple of years ago when I thought Oklahoma would beat them but Boise won the game. I think that on a single game basis, they might be able to match up with most teams in the country. At least compete well. But on a week in and week out basis, they wouldn't be able to. That's the difference.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Boise earned respect from me a couple of years ago when I thought Oklahoma would beat them but Boise won the game. I think that on a single game basis, they might be able to match up with most teams in the country. At least compete well. But on a week in and week out basis, they wouldn't be able to. That's the difference.

Thats a good point and its seldom brought up. The big difference in the top tier division 1 programs and the next tier is in DEPTH not necessarily talent. That shows out over the course of the season and may not in one game. If bowl games were played immediately after the regular season ended, you would have far fewer upsets mainly because the lesser teams need that time to physically heal while the bigger programs have backups that are often times as good as starters.

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Alabama will not lose to Ole Siss.

Alabama will not lose this year.

[Danzig]

bama leapfrogged texas to #2 today. lsu dropped to 10th, which is right where i had them....

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Alabama will not lose this year.

you've got to feel pretty confident about that prediction. but, for obvious reasons, i'm hoping you're wrong!

but if lsu plays them the way they played teabag and co last night, you'll be celebrating a win that wknd for sure.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Alabama will not lose this year.

Florida in the SEC title game?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Florida in the SEC title game?

if florida plays bama like they played lsu, and tenn earlier, they will lose and bama will play for all the marbles in january.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by GPK

VT isn't far behind them. One thing is for sure...if their defense doesn't force turnovers, a very mediocre team will knock them off this year.

At least UNC's offense had a stellar performance today

No joy in Hokieville tonight!!
Hahahaha

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

1. Florida
2. Alabama
3. Boise St
4. Texas
5. Iowa
6. Virginia Tech
7. Cincinnati
8. TCU
9. Oregon
10. LSU

Most of my original top ten is intact:

1. Alabama
2. Florida
3. Texas
4. Iowa
5. Boise St
6. Cincinnati
7. TCU
8. USC
9. Oregon
10. Virginia Tech