What a mess

[johnny pinwheel]

Originally Posted by Riot

The oil companies successfully fight government regulation and oversight, then, when their third and last failsafe backup safety valve doesn't work, ....

BP, the oil industry and their political lackies: "government is an obstacle. the drilling is safe and modern technology can avert disaster, drill baby drill!" the reality: "we can't fix this problem.............government do something........please help us fix something we don't have a clue about, we are even calling in the shrimpers and clam people to help." can you say the word......SUCKERS........because thats what we have become. "oh mother nature can take care of this" really? in how many years. i suppose all these jackasses that are claiming this are taking their families to the beach this summer....lol...lol

[geeker2]

I say blame Clinton. The Rig was designed, permitted and built on his watch.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel

i suppose all these jackasses that are claiming this are taking their families to the beach this summer....lol...lol

I guess not Captiva/Sanibel, or the Keys.

[ateamstupid]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37205691/ns/gulf_oil_spill/

You really can't make this crap up. BP should be on the hook for every penny, but Republicans are keeping in tact the $75 million liability cap. $75 million is a drop in the bucket for these morons.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37205691/ns/gulf_oil_spill/

You really can't make this crap up. BP should be on the hook for every penny, but Republicans are keeping in tact the $75 million liability cap. $75 million is a drop in the bucket for these morons.

It will be a crime of monumental proportions if BP pays only 75mil!

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

It will be a crime of monumental proportions if BP pays only 75mil!

They have to pay for all of the environmental clean up. The 75 mil cap is for paying businesses who lost their business because of the spill.

but either way, yeah, its a crime if tax payers have to even pay a dime for these people's errors.

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

They have to pay for all of the environmental clean up. The 75 mil cap is for paying businesses who lost their business because of the spill.

but either way, yeah, its a crime if tax payers have to even pay a dime for these people's errors.

Obama has asked Congress for $10 MM to pursue criminal and civil charges against BP - guess where the $10 MM comes from.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

They have to pay for all of the environmental clean up. The 75 mil cap is for paying businesses who lost their business because of the spill.

but either way, yeah, its a crime if tax payers have to even pay a dime for these people's errors.

I saw that BP is offering grants to businesses that have been affected by the spill....small consolation.
I'm not an advocate of "green" but DAMN, this is a monster problem as far as clean up and probable effects to natural settings etc etc.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by geeker2

Obama has asked Congress for $10 MM to pursue criminal and civil charges against BP - guess where the $10 MM comes from.

the money tree?

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by Riot

Tar balls found on Key West beaches today.

Underwater oil plume estimated to be 10 miles long, 3 miles wide. Oil over one of five major deep coral reefs. Dead porpoises wash up on shore.

BP proud that they've inserted a 4-inch draft into a 20-inch pipe, collecting about a fifth of what is continuing to spill daily.

bad math riot. you can fit five 4" pipes down just one axis of a 20" pipe. that's assuming 20" is the interior dimension of the larger pipe and 4" the exterior dimension of the smaller. which isn't the case. but pretending it is, you still have a lot of 20" pipe left after you do that.

4" pipe area is the radius (2') x 3.14 squared= 39.4 square inches

20" pipe area is the radius (10") x 3.14 squared = 986 square inches

that's about 4%, not 20%.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel

BP, the oil industry and their political lackies: "government is an obstacle. the drilling is safe and modern technology can avert disaster, drill baby drill!" the reality: "we can't fix this problem.............government do something........please help us fix something we don't have a clue about, we are even calling in the shrimpers and clam people to help." can you say the word......SUCKERS........because thats what we have become. "oh mother nature can take care of this" really? in how many years. i suppose all these jackasses that are claiming this are taking their families to the beach this summer....lol...lol

i get this. it's not a completely unreasonable reaction.

i just wish people looked at their own responsibility rather than just blame either bp or the government. we live on cheap oil.

let he who is without a car cast the first stone.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

bad math riot. you can fit five 4" pipes down just one axis of a 20" pipe. that's assuming 20" is the interior dimension of the larger pipe and 4" the exterior dimension of the smaller. which isn't the case. but pretending it is, you still have a lot of 20" pipe left after you do that.

4" pipe area is the radius (2') x 3.14 squared= 39.4 square inches

20" pipe area is the radius (10") x 3.14 squared = 986 square inches

that's about 4%, not 20%.

That's not my math - that's THEIR math Of course, they also say that only 5,000 gallons a day are spilling, and they are pulling 1,000 gal a day from the draft pipe.

As an aside: today I could have turned left into the BP Station, or right into the Speedway. I conciously chose Speedway.