AP Source: Obama to seek changes in Pell Grants

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

True. MaYybe I was in a combat zone. I will laugh when Obamacare takes effect and you get less from the insurance companies. Lets see how much you like Obama then.

Maybe? You don't remember? Troops in combat zones still vote.

[SOREHOOF]

[quote=Riot;752626]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Actually, my insurance premiums will go down, and I will gain insurance for all the "preexisting conditions" that are completely uninsureable now. Can't wait.

Your personal stake in this completely explains your support for it. You stand to get more for less, while a lot of people know they are going to get less for more.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by jms62

Maybe? You don't remember? Troops in combat zones still vote.

Yes I do. I dont clean toilets like you do for as living. That was the only time I have missed voting for President. Have you ever not voted for Pres before?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Ya right. If you are doctor as someone claimed you are shouldnt you be able to afford what you pay now?

No wonder you want Obamacare. No wonder you like Obama. Another one of his followers getting a handout or break in insurance rates. Wonder if someone else's rate will go up if they dont use a doctor as much you will? Someone has to help pay for you.

I am a veterinarian.

You are completely clueless about "Obamacare". You have no idea whatsoever what it's about. You make senseless, completely-devoid-of-reality assumptions out of thin air, but you refuse to learn anything about "Obamacare" at all.

You have no curiosity, only your preconceived prejudices and opinions, none of which will never be dissuaded by fact or reality. You are the very definition of a "low information" voter. Good luck with that.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Riot

I am a veterinarian.

You are completely clueless about "Obamacare". You have no idea whatsoever what it's about. You make senseless, completely-devoid-of-reality assumptions out of thin air, but you refuse to learn anything about "Obamacare" at all.

You have no curiosity, only your preconceived prejudices and opinions, none of which will never be dissuaded by fact or reality. You are the very definition of a "low information" voter. Good luck with that.

Didnt the majority of Americans not want Obamacare. Im not the only one who didnt want it. I see why you want it. Your rate will go down even though you are a vet and can afford it. It will be the middle and lower class that will have to support your worthless body.

[Nascar1966]

[quote=SOREHOOF;752649]

Originally Posted by Riot

Your personal stake in this completely explains your support for it. You stand to get more for less, while a lot of people know they are going to get less for more.

Why are you using my name when Riot posted it and not me?

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Yes I do. I dont clean toilets like you do for as living. That was the only time I have missed voting for President. Have you ever not voted for Pres before?

Lol.. Are you on crack? I've been doing over
6 figs for 20 years. The joke is on you. And FYI why is cleaning toilets so demeaning? And no I don't clean toilets unless my wife asks me to

[Nascar1966]

[quote=Riot;752641]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

I want the 30 million uninsured that I am now helping pay for, every time they go to a doctor or an emergency room, to have their own health insurance.

Even the Illegals?

[Riot]

[quote]

Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

Your personal stake in this completely explains your support for it.

No, it doesn't. We have some of the worst health care access in the world. Presidents starting with Johnson and Nixon wanted good health care reform, as have most Presidents since. Our society suffers from our terrible health care access. We have some of the highest healthcare costs in the world across the board, as we are all paying for the high number of uninsured, and those that don't get health care until critical. I don't like seeing people get sick and die for lack of health care in this nation.

You stand to get more for less, while a lot of people know they are going to get less for more.

Who will be getting less for more? Your premiums will go down, too.

[Nascar1966]

[quote=Riot;752660]

No, it doesn't. We have some of the worst health care access in the world. Presidents starting with Johnson and Nixon wanted good health care reform, as have most Presidents since. Our society suffers from our terrible health care access. We have some of the highest healthcare costs in the world across the board, as we are all paying for the high number of uninsured, and those that don't get health care until critical. I don't like seeing people get sick and die for lack of health care in this nation.



Who will be getting less for more? Your premiums will go down, too.

Maybe if the illegals weren't getting free ER visits then premiums would be lower. I have no problems getting health care access.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Didnt the majority of Americans not want Obamacare. Im not the only one who didnt want it. I see why you want it. Your rate will go down even though you are a vet and can afford it. It will be the middle and lower class that will have to support your worthless body.

You are completely clueless about "Obamacare". You have no idea whatsoever what it's about. You make senseless, completely-devoid-of-reality assumptions out of thin air, but you refuse to learn anything about "Obamacare" at all.

You have no curiosity, only your preconceived prejudices and opinions, none of which will never be dissuaded by fact or reality. You are the very definition of a "low information" voter. Good luck with that.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by jms62

Lol.. Are you on crack? I've been doing over
6 figs for 20 years. The joke is on you. And FYI why is cleaning toilets so demeaning? And no I don't clean toilets unless my wife asks me to

Sure you dont. You sure aren't fooling me.

[SOREHOOF]

[quote=Riot;752660]

No, it doesn't. We have some of the worst health care access in the world. Presidents starting with Johnson and Nixon wanted good health care reform, as have most Presidents since. Our society suffers from our terrible health care access. We have some of the highest healthcare costs in the world across the board, as we are all paying for the high number of uninsured, and those that don't get health care until critical. I don't like seeing people get sick and die for lack of health care in this nation.



Who will be getting less for more? Your premiums will go down, too.

Compared to who? Please say Cuba! My premium just doubled!

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Riot

You are completely clueless about "Obamacare". You have no idea whatsoever what it's about. You make senseless, completely-devoid-of-reality assumptions out of thin air, but you refuse to learn anything about "Obamacare" at all.

You have no curiosity, only your preconceived prejudices and opinions, none of which will never be dissuaded by fact or reality. You are the very definition of a "low information" voter. Good luck with that.

Go back to your dream land or Democrat land. Hopefully in Nov 2012 your world will come to a screeching halt when America hopefully wakes up. Hopefully a certain group of people won't try to scare voters away.

[Riot]

[quote=SOREHOOF;752664]

Originally Posted by Riot

Compared to who? Please say Cuba! My premium just doubled!

Compared to most other first world countries. Go google: infant mortality, health care access, death rate, etc.

I hate to inform you, but it's doubtful your premium doubled due to the PPACA.

[Antitrust32]

[quote=SOREHOOF;752664]

Originally Posted by Riot

Compared to who? Please say Cuba! My premium just doubled!

my out of pocket costs doubled also!

my premium did not go up.. because I wasnt even OFFERED that insurance program anymore! only a crap one!

[Nascar1966]

[quote=Antitrust32;752675]

Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

my out of pocket costs doubled also!

my premium did not go up.. because I wasnt even OFFERED that insurance program anymore! only a crap one!

Wow. Could you be another victim of this great forthcoming Obamacare?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust 752664

my out of pocket costs doubled also!

my premium did not go up.. because I wasnt even OFFERED that insurance program anymore! only a crap one!

We need the public option - everyone who wants to, gets to buy into Medicare. See how the private insurance companies like dealing with that competition.

Put this in the google search bar. Read it and weep: private insurance company rate hikes last decade

[SOREHOOF]

[quote=Riot;752674]

Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

Compared to most other first world countries. Go google: infant mortality, health care access, death rate, etc.

I hate to inform you, but it's doubtful your premium doubled due to the PPACA.

The #'s don't tell the whole story. Is China 1"st World now too? How is their Healthcare plan working out for the people? I'm not hearing of complaints by the Chinese people. Maybe we should adopt their system.

[Riot]

[quote=SOREHOOF;752679]

Originally Posted by Riot

The #'s don't tell the whole story. Is China 1"st World now too? How is their Healthcare plan working out for the people? I'm not hearing of complaints by the Chinese people. Maybe we should adopt their system.

Well, that's completely generalized and non-specific. Okay.