WI Union-busting provisions added in budget committee

[pdrift1]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

LOL

Yeah Unions are known for their peaceful tactics too

The guy ran over their "things" in his wheelchair?
Did he have some sort of monster truck wheels installed?
Are we sure this wasn't Roger after a few too many drinks?

hey chuck, hope all is well, been awhile. so are you trying to imply i'm a menace to society. you know i would be down on state st at the bar instead of wasting my time at the capitol running over liberal hippies "things". if i was there drunk i woulda took zien out and started a riot . rog

wheelchair demolition is a new sport ive been active in

hope you and paula and the kids are doing great. tell paula hi from us

now back to my bottle of pinot noir

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by pdrift1

hey chuck, hope all is well, been awhile. so are you trying to imply i'm a menace to society. you know i would be down on state st at the bar instead of wasting my time at the capitol running over liberal hippies "things". if i was there drunk i woulda took zien out and started a riot . rog

wheelchair demolition is a new sport ive been active in

hope you and paula and the kids are doing great. tell paula hi from us

now back to my bottle of pinot noir

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

It's not going to be repealed. It's the law. It's already in effect. So you deal with it

So is the Governor of Wisconsin yet you seem to be wet in your pants for any recall elections, and you don't even have a vote.

Yet repeal of Obamacare that I demonstrated thru polls, is not a desire of the majority, is untouchable law?

Hypocrisy? Of course, deal with it!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

So is the Governor of Wisconsin yet you seem to be wet in your pants for any recall elections, and you don't even have a vote.

Yet repeal of Obamacare that I demonstrated thru polls, is not a desire of the majority, is untouchable law?

Hypocrisy? Of course, deal with it!

LOL - hardly.

The health care law repeal attempt was voted upon earlier this year, and already failed.

The recalls in Wisconsin may fail, too. Or may pass.

Both are moving along their legal, constitutional channels as the voters want.

Nothing hypocritical about that at all, is there?

Yes, I'll be sending more money to Wisconsin Democrats, to help their repeal efforts. Glad to do it

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I dont remember choosing to "take care of each other"?

I wasn't aware that this was put to a vote of the people of America. I seem to remember it as being done by politicians.

Oh, you don't know how that works? We elect politicians to represent us based upon what they promise to do for us? All the Republicans and Democrats that have promised us health care over the years - in addition to Social Security, Medicare, etc. ?

Yeah, that was all done against the continuing will of the majority of American people over the past decades

I'm still waiting to find out how the insurance industry will lose " 800,000+ jobs ", when they've already added an estimated 18 million to their insurance rolls, and will get up to 30 million new clients.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

LOL - hardly.

The health care law repeal attempt was voted upon earlier this year, and already failed.

The recalls in Wisconsin may fail, too. Or may pass.

Both are moving along their legal, constitutional channels as the voters want.

Nothing hypocritical about that at all, is there?

Yes, I'll be sending more money to Wisconsin Democrats, to help their repeal efforts. Glad to do it

Glad your sending money to wi instead of paying for your own bum knee.

Obamacare is unconstititional and that's the difference.

[Riot]

The above title should read "allegedly", I guess.

Yeah, good thing this complete loser guy was elected to the Supreme Court in Wisconsin. Maybe he has dementia. First he announces to the world his purpose on the court will be to support the governor's agenda, now he's under investigation for assaulting another judge.

Old, angry white guys. It's sad. McCain, Prosser ...

Big long article with much detail here:

Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice David Prosser allegedly grabbed fellow Justice Ann Walsh Bradley around the neck in an argument in her chambers last week, according to at least three knowledgeable sources.

They say an argument that occurred before the court’s release of a decision upholding a bill to curtail the collective bargaining rights of public employees culminated in a physical altercation in the presence of other justices. Bradley purportedly asked Prosser to leave her office, whereupon Prosser grabbed Bradley by the neck with both hands.

In March, the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reported that, in a disagreement over a case last year, Justice Prosser had called Justice Abrahamson a “total bitch” and threatened to “destroy” her. Prosser, the paper reported, confirmed making the remarks, saying he “probably overreacted” while accusing Justices Abrahamson and Bradley of being “masters at deliberately goading people into perhaps incautious statements.”

Read more: http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/loc...#ixzz1QKDzZXwm

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Glad your sending money to wi instead of paying for your own bum knee.

Sorry, Mr. Ignorant, I do both

[dellinger63]

Hats off again to Walker

MADISON, Wis. (AP) — Gov. Scott Walker will veto a part of the state budget that would have changed the way chewing tobacco products are taxed in the state.


Walker spokesman Cullen Werwie tells The Associated Press on Friday that Walker opposes the change put into the budget by the Legislature because it could lower the price of some tobacco products and make them more attractive to children.


Werwie released details of the veto to the AP in advance of Walker signing the budget and announcing other vetoes on Sunday.


The American Cancer Society and other groups lobbied Walker to veto the tax change, which would have taxed smokeless tobacco products based on their weight rather than a percentage of their price. The current price-based system ensures all such products are taxed equally.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Riot maybe you can lobby the KY legislature to do the same. It might keep your mind off pubic workers' unions in distant states.

You contention that people that don't live in a state can't care what happens there is ridiculous and silly.

I've very happy New York legalized gay marriage. The GOP Governors union-busting agenda is being implemented in multiple states, and I'm quite happy to help people in those states fight the removal of individual freedom.

Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice David Prosser needs to resign immediately. Assaulting a judge is a felony in Wisconsin. He has committed physical assault on a coworker. He has a history of verbal abuse in the workplace. He could be brought up under Title VII.

Do you agree or not?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

You contention that people that don't live in a state can't care what happens there is ridiculous and silly.

I've very happy New York legalized gay marriage. The GOP Governors union-busting agenda is being implemented in multiple states, and I'm quite happy to help people in those states fight the removal of individual freedom.

Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice David Prosser needs to resign immediately. Assaulting a judge is a felony in Wisconsin. He has committed physical assault on a coworker. He has a history of verbal abuse in the workplace. He could be brought up under Title VII.

Do you agree or not?

I'm happy for the New York law and think it should be the law of the land.

Prosser didn't assault anyone. And oooooo verbal abuse and title 7?

You have a current, US President who has our troops, fighting a illegal war, under the command of a foreign entity, yet he claims there is no war, despite there being tape and you're concerned with a story of a Supreme Court Justice from a State not your own, who assaulted an underling?

Blinks On!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

I'm happy for the New York law and think it should be the law of the land.

To quote another poster, you'd do better to stop interfering in New York, and pay more attention to Wisconsin

Prosser didn't assault anyone.

a Supreme Court Justice from a State not your own, who assaulted an underling?

Blinks on? ROFLMAO. You are commenting, but obviously didn't even bother to read the story - which is it, Dell? "Didn't assault anyone" or "assaulted an underling"

Factually, it's neither of your imagined scenarios: Prosser physically assaulted another Justice on the Supreme court

He absolutely needs to resign by end of business Monday.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

To quote another poster, you'd do better to stop interfering in New York, and pay more attention to Wisconsin





Blinks on? ROFLMAO. You are commenting, but obviously didn't even bother to read the story - which is it, Dell? "Didn't assault anyone" or "assaulted an underling"

Factually, it's neither of your imagined scenarios: Prosser physically assaulted another Justice on the Supreme court

He absolutely needs to resign by end of business Monday.

It allegedly happened in her chambers? Is she the only judge w/o a bailiff? He assaulted no one or she failed to report a crime. Considering their previous relationship I'll take the former.

BTW By your reponse I take it you DO think the alleged assault is more important than Lybia. Blinks On for sure!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

It allegedly happened in her chambers? Is she the only judge w/o a bailiff? He assaulted no one or she failed to report a crime. Considering their previous relationship I'll take the former.

You still apparently haven't read any articles about what's happening with this, have you?

BTW By your reponse I take it you DO think the alleged assault is more important than Lybia.

And take my lack of reponse (sic) about unicorns to indicate I think Prosser was riding one when he attacked his fellow judge

Over/under on Prosser resignation: Weiner took three weeks, I'll bet Prosser is gone in two.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

You still apparently haven't read any articles about what's happening with this, have you?



And take my lack of reponse (sic) about unicorns to indicate I think Prosser was riding one when he attacked his fellow judge

Over/under on Prosser resignation: Weiner took three weeks, I'll bet Prosser is gone in two.

Yea such big news it didn't even make the Gazette. He's going nowhere.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Yea such big news it didn't even make the Gazette. He's going nowhere.

Naw. Just NYTimes, Forbes, Associated Press, etc. National media attention forcing both candidates to make more detailed statements today more directly addressing the situation (Prosser of course blames his victim, the victim sez no, her neck did not attack him as he alleges). The police chief is addressing charges on Monday, too.

Yesterday's blockbuster headline that rightwing WI Supreme Court justice David Prosser may have committed battery against fellow justice Ann Walsh Bradley continues to make news, as both Prosser and Bradley have now released on the record statements giving their differing accounts of the incident.

Initially, both justices were circumspect in their reaction. When first contacted, Prosser reportedly said: "I have nothing to say about it" and Bradley also said "I have nothing to say."

Later in the day yesterday, however, as the media storm in Wisconsin gathered force, Prosser issued a statement:

"Once there's a proper review of the matter and the facts surrounding it are made clear, the anonymous claim made to the media will be proven false. Until then I will refrain from further public comment."

Sources close to him then approached the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel anonymously, which reported his version like this:

According to [these sources], Bradley charged Prosser, who raised his hands to defend himself and made contact with her neck.

Those comments led to a full on the record statement by Bradley, as quoted in the Journal-Sentinel:

"The facts are that I was demanding that he get out of my office and he put his hands around my neck in anger in a chokehold. Those are the facts and you can try to spin those facts and try to make it sound like I ran up to him and threw my neck into his hands, but that's only spin."

Matters of abusive behavior in the workplace aren't resolved by competing press releases.

I'm confident the appropriate authorities will conduct a thorough investigation of this incident involving abusive behavior in the workplace.

While Bradley did an excellent job of calling out Prosser's "blame the victim" tactic, it's unfortunate she's choosing to describe the incident as abusive behavior in the workplace, rather than the felonious battery on a justice that Prosser appears to have committed.

Over the next day or two it will be interesting to see if the Wisconsin Judicial Commission confirms that an investigation is underway. Its initial statement on the matter was to neither confirm nor deny, but now that both parties involved are on the record that something happened the Commission may in fact have to acknowledge that it has received a formal complaint. Its rules state:

"Should a complaint or investigation become known to the public, the Commission may issue a brief statement to confirm its pendency, clarify the procedural aspects of the proceedings, state that the judge denies the allegations, [etc.]"

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

Old, angry white guys. It's sad. :

racist and bigot

[nebrady]

Bunch of she said. If it was so bad why didn't she press charges along time ago? Oh by the way riot its official the budget has been signed! Time to party this week. Any of those protesters show up at your place yet? Told them you were a friend of walkers! Lol

[Riot]

Originally Posted by nebrady

Bunch of she said. If it was so bad why didn't she press charges along time ago?

Do some of you guys just not bother to read newspapers and learn about stuff that happens in your state before you talk about it?

Looks like she did indeed do something at the time: a Wisconsin Judicial Commission investigation is ongoing from then; and today the Dane Country Sheriff announced a second investigation.

Oh by the way riot its official the budget has been signed! Time to party this week. Any of those protesters show up at your place yet? Told them you were a friend of walkers! Lol

Enjoy your tax hikes, and increased state deficit with that budget.

"Lol"

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

racist and bigot

LOL - I think you need to look up the definitions of the words you use before you try to use them in desperation where it really doesn't apply.

I am talking about two specific people: David Prosser, who is old, has a documented history of public anger, and is white; and John McCain, who is old, has a documented history of public anger, and is white.

Two old angry white guys.