mccain's vp

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i read that one poll has them neck and neck, while another has mccain ten points ahead among likely voters. the gap is smaller among registered voters.

but the debates are still to come, so we'll see. i might watch those. far more entertaining than the conventions, i didn't watch any of either one. too much rah rahing for my taste. and the folks who dress up, what's up with that?!

If they had an all nude convention I'd watch

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

I never take what you or Zig say all that seriously. I realize you are from Texas, and she is living in Arkansas. You're both gunna have neck thinking contamination(no matter what.)

You are from the state of Ronald Reagan.
And Barbara Jordan, born and raised in Texas.

Jeeezzzzzzzzzzzzz. The regional thing is getting old.

So we are infected by birth.
Just like Blacks and Mexicans.
Its just something Z and I cant help.
We were born stupid and miserly just like
blacks were born stupid and lazy. Thats it?
Yes?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by geeker2

If they had an all nude convention I'd watch

even if barbara mikulski was there??

[Rileyoriley]

Originally Posted by geeker2

If they had an all nude convention I'd watch

The thought of the candidates in the nude makes me wish for GPK's "I just threw up in my mouth" icon.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I dont believe that AMT is necessary but if it is going to stay (mostly for political reasons because god forbid anyone be seen as helping the "rich") than it absolutely should be adjusted to modern income levels.

How can you say that $250k is the number at which it is ok to add burden? Especially considering the wide gap in CoL throughout the country? Surely a family living in manhattan versus a family living in Montana is an important factor?

My racetrack analogy isnt off, what is the difference? Raising takeout is akin to raising taxes because in theory the extra takeout is used to make improvements or added to purses to put on a better product. But as in govt, that rarely happens and in the end all it succeeds in is taking money that would add to handle (the economy) out of circulation which shrinks handle.

I dont think you read my response at all. I said that AMT is necessary and perhaps it could be altered. If not for AMT, there are many multi millionaires that could make their effective tax rates below 20%....Less than your average middle class worker. Is that fair?

As for the 250k, it really is hard to come up with a number. I guess they settled on a number that was about four times the median household income. It would probably be better if families in areas like mine or new york, etc could work off of some kind of sliding scale.

My point about "handle" was that its not just democrats bitching about it. Everyone does.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by Rileyoriley

The thought of the candidates in the nude makes me wish for GPK's "I just threw up in my mouth" icon.

DOD....you and I can run the all nude campaign

GPK/DOD '08
"Nude and Crude"

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

You guys are making it very hard to hijack this thread. Geez....

hey, more are trying. geeker and i were just starting a nude convention discussion.
but i'm afraid i may have stopped it in its tracks with my mikulski comment...

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by GPK

DOD....you and I can run the all nude campaign

GPK/DOD '08
"Nude and Crude"

or nude and lewd? hello!

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by Danzig

even if barbara mikulski was there??

Is she that porn star that starred in Blazing Zippers?

[GPK]

Originally Posted by Danzig

or nude and lewd? hello!

Care to join us babe?

[Rileyoriley]

Originally Posted by GPK

DOD....you and I can run the all nude campaign

GPK/DOD '08
"Nude and Crude"

I think we'd be "Nude and Boo'd".

[GPK]

Originally Posted by Rileyoriley

I think we'd be "Nude and Boo'd".

If thats the case, forget 'em. Just be you and I nude then

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

I dont think you read my response at all. I said that AMT is necessary and perhaps it could be altered. If not for AMT, there are many multi millionaires that could make their effective tax rates below 20%....Less than your average middle class worker. Is that fair?

As for the 250k, it really is hard to come up with a number. I guess they settled on a number that was about four times the median household income. It would probably be better if families in areas like mine or new york, etc could work off of some kind of sliding scale.

My point about "handle" was that its not just democrats bitching about it. Everyone does.

You asking him about fair? LOL...He said he went through Catholic School, but slept through religion.

This is not how debates in a democratic society end.
No joking around trying to push it all under the rug.

Let us proceed to the fisticuff stage.
The physical brawl should ensue.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

I dont think you read my response at all. I said that AMT is necessary and perhaps it could be altered. If not for AMT, there are many multi millionaires that could make their effective tax rates below 20%....Less than your average middle class worker. Is that fair?

As for the 250k, it really is hard to come up with a number. I guess they settled on a number that was about four times the median household income. It would probably be better if families in areas like mine or new york, etc could work off of some kind of sliding scale.

My point about "handle" was that its not just democrats bitching about it. Everyone does.

I did read your response. Did you not see my little rebuttals? You say AMT is necessary, I dont. We disagree and there is no way i am getting into why i think that its elimination could be covered much more effectively because i just cant type that much.

Everybody may bitch about the takeout but Dems are in effect voting for Brunetti and his takeout/tax plan.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by GPK

None that I know about.

I am in contact on a daily basis with people like this and many that are worse off than that.

How many of these people you see every day are working a 2nd job?

And i didnt mean to call you out by asking about kids and im sorry if it came out that way becausee it wasnt my intention.

There are plenty of middle class i see working two full time jobs right now to make ends meet and they still can't do it.

There was a couple that just came to our bank the other day. Perfect example. Both teachers making combined 110k a year. Two young children. Only debt is their cars. They wanted to buy a house in the outer reaches. a modest four bedroom with about 2500 square feet. Totally middle class neighborhood and the house was about 500k. So lets do the math.

Gross income 9k per month

Car payments= 600 per month.

student loans= 300 per month.

mortgage payment=3500 per month

Credit card debt= zero



lets do the math here GPK. 9k gross means they are taking home about 6000 per month. Debts equal 4500 per month. Now add utitlies, phone, insurance, food, gas, etc.

This is the middle class in our area. What is wrong with this picture?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

You asking him about fair? LOL...He said he went through Catholic School, but slept through religion.

What are you a priest? Or a nun?

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I did read your response. Did you not see my little rebuttals? You say AMT is necessary, I dont. We disagree and there is no way i am getting into why i think that its elimination could be covered much more effectively because i just cant type that much.

Everybody may bitch about the takeout but Dems are in effect voting for Brunetti and his takeout/tax plan.

NOOOOO.

Obama's tax plan helps 95% of the population.

Brunetti's takeout plan only helped the house.

Now, i would favor a takeout plan that would help 95% of the players.