Outrage over kill-penned former Paragallo mares..

[Sightseek]

$10? The strawberry pie I just made cost more than that to prepare.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Reminds me of Catholicism (all these mouths to feed each month.)

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Don't worry Freddy - those Cappuchino's are late developers.

Barbara has him and is charging 80 a day for this pig... Gelding cordon blue is delicious if prepared properly

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by outofthebox

costing me about $300 for bedding, hay and feed here at Finger Lakes.

Here is the breakdown courtesty of perhaps Mountaineer's most deranged trainer ...

"$4 for Alfalfa at 7 per month, $3 for timothy at 7 per month, $4 for straw at about 12 a month... and $6 sacks of feed for 14 a month" Comes to $181.

Wouldn't shock me at all if some five finger discounting from fellow trainers is going on with him though.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

$10? The strawberry pie I just made cost more than that to prepare.

Sounds delish.

[LARHAGE]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

20k would feed 60 horses for a month. Maybe...

Especially when he states EACH horse eats 25 pounds of hay a day, yet they looked like walking hat racks.

[Kasept]

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/04/sp...?_r=1&emc=eta1

Story hits the major press as Joe Drape has a thorough piece in the Times today... This story is going to snowball, and you can only hope it rids the game of Paragallo. He was a bad guy before this incident, and will be after it.

[paisjpq]

It can be done for $10 a day. My hay is .15 cents a pound and a bag of 14% sweet feed (10% fat) is $14 delivered for a 50# bag.
If I fed 25# of hay and 10# of grain it would still cost less than $7 per head per day. Of course this excludes any supplementa but broodmares are rarely fed many and salt is a negligable expense.

[reese]

Originally Posted by Kasept

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/04/sp...?_r=1&emc=eta1

Story hits the major press as Joe Drape has a thorough piece in the Times today... This story is going to snowball, and you can only hope it rids the game of Paragallo. He was a bad guy before this incident, and will be after it.

I hope you realize that the email I sent you two days ago w/ copy of the rescue video was not an "over reaction"

Too bad this thread has deteriorated into the cost of feeding a horse for a day. Paragallo is a "backyard breeder". He is a millionaire that breeds and discards hundeds of horses. Someone should stop him from breeding.
NYRA's turn a "blind eye" because Paragallo as Paranack fills those 7.5k claimers running his horses every other week.

[Payson Dave]

How does NYRA control who breeds.. or how?

[CSC]

A disturbing story...somehow the quote by Joseph Conrad doesn't do it justice.

"The belief in a supernatural source of evil is not necessary. Men alone are quite capable of every wickedness."

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Kasept

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/04/sp...?_r=1&emc=eta1

Story hits the major press as Joe Drape has a thorough piece in the Times today... This story is going to snowball, and you can only hope it rids the game of Paragallo. He was a bad guy before this incident, and will be after it.

I must be the dumbest guy in the world, but how can a guy who owes half of of a 5 million a year stallion let this knownlingly happen?

[sumitas]

Originally Posted by outofthebox

costing me about $300 for bedding, hay and feed here at Finger Lakes. Thats without supplements and not full rations as my horse just started back into training.

my 2 yr old is outside saratoga. the farm grows their own hay . he'll be going back in to training when mike lecesse gives the green light . we'll go to FLakes to start on track in a few months. i am thankful my horse eats well to maintain his large growing body . he's 15 1 1/2 hands and just turned 2.

[richard burch]

since he "doesn't care what people think of him"

i think he is a piece of ****.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by freddymo

I must be the dumbest guy in the world, but how can a guy who owes half of of a 5 million a year stallion let this knownlingly happen?

because he didn't care. because he was 'disposing' of the horses, most of them barren mares, so maybe he thought 'why throw good money after bad'??
if barren mares are kept thin (his words) what are culled mares kept at? evidently they aren't 'kept' at all, but are allowed to starve, become lice-ridden, and aren't wormed or given other care. these horses were neglected, badly, while owned and in the care of paragallo. his responsibility didn't end when he thought he had someone taking them off his hands (a story i find less than believable, i doubt there is a fla farm), but when they actually left his care. because he didn't think they'd be in such bad shape when they got picked up-because he didn't think it would become a story....
you're confusing wealth with caring. the two are NOT synonymous.

[Left Bank]

I read Paragallo's response and this guy writes like he is in the third grade.How come in every transaction like this they can never seem to find "The Guy" who was taking the horses???? Sounds like these animals would have been better off being slaughtered than being in his care.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Left Bank

I read Paragallo's response and this guy writes like he is in the third grade.How come in every transaction like this they can never seem to find "The Guy" who was taking the horses???? Sounds like these animals would have been better off being slaughtered than being in his care.

because there is no guy. EP made out like he gave these horses to someone, that they were picked up in december and then showed up last month in a kill pen. according to the driver, those horses came right from ernies farm-and he says he has paperwork to prove it...more to follow i'm sure.

[reese]

Originally Posted by Danzig

because there is no guy. EP made out like he gave these horses to someone, that they were picked up in december and then showed up last month in a kill pen. according to the driver, those horses came right from ernies farm-and he says he has paperwork to prove it...more to follow i'm sure.

NYTimes article Part 2

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/05/sp...r=1&ref=sports

[Danzig]

extreme neglect over a long period of time

[reese]

From Sunday, April 5th NYTIMES:

NOT THE FIRST TIME:

http://www.nytimes.com/pages/sports/other/index.html