Borel off Bird for Rachel in Preakness

[pointman]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

cause he's a GELDING.

I laughed.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by LARHAGE

In the Bloodhorse article on Wiggins it says Mike Smith is being mentioned to ride Mine That Bird.

I'm sure Mike will use the entire 7 - 8 path then....He's almost as brutal as Chantal is.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by gales0678

funny cide was a gelding , he paired up , i think 5/1 on MTB in the preakness will be a steal fat , he was pulling away at CD , and s/b ready to roll next sat

You should've been paying attention to Drugs:

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

What are you talking about?

Gales will be unloading on Mine That Bird.

Afterall - he might just be the single best horse Bennie L Woolley Jr. has ever trained!

Too late now.

[gales0678]

fat - look at how he closed in the KY Derby , just like Secretariat

I hope that these horse don't get ruined like the one's that ran against Big Red in the TC

remember Sham in the Belmont , he was like a little kid out there running against Big Red , if Mike Smith doesn't botch this next Sat , i think we could get a TC winner this year fat

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by gales0678

fat - look at how he closed in the KY Derby , just like Secretariat

I hope that these horse don't get ruined like the one's that ran against Big Red in the TC

remember Sham in the Belmont , he was like a little kid out there running against Big Red , if Mike Smith doesn't botch this next Sat , i think we could get a TC winner this year fat

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by gales0678

fat - look at how he closed in the KY Derby , just like Secretariat

I hope that these horse don't get ruined like the one's that ran against Big Red in the TC

remember Sham in the Belmont , he was like a little kid out there running against Big Red , if Mike Smith doesn't botch this next Sat , i think we could get a TC winner this year fat

marty marty marty marty marty marty marty!!!!! ahhhhhhhhhhhh

I'm sorry... I'm going to give Mine That Bird the benefit of the doubt as to being a good horse, and let him prove me right or wrong.

But please dont compare him to secretariat... try not to even let that thought pop up in your head... it will only make things worse!!

[philcski]

Originally Posted by gales0678

fat - look at how he closed in the KY Derby , just like Secretariat

I hope that these horse don't get ruined like the one's that ran against Big Red in the TC

remember Sham in the Belmont , he was like a little kid out there running against Big Red , if Mike Smith doesn't botch this next Sat , i think we could get a TC winner this year fat

OH MY GOD

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

marty marty marty marty marty marty marty!!!!! ahhhhhhhhhhhh

I'm sorry... I'm going to give Mine That Bird the benefit of the doubt as to being a good horse, and let him prove me right or wrong.

But please dont compare him to secretariat... try not to even let that thought pop up in your head... it will only make things worse!!

lori help me out kid, can you find the fastest last 1/4's or 6f in the last 20 -40yrs in the derby the horse was flying like a freight train

[slotdirt]

I'm actually half willing to buy the oxygen deprevation training angle on Mine that Bird, incidentally.

I'm sorry I opened this can of worms by comparing final half times of this year's Derby with those of Ghostzapper and others. I should be banned.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by gales0678

lori help me out kid, can you find the fastest last 1/4's or 6f in the last 20 -40yrs in the derby the horse was flying like a freight train

honey I agree with you that the horse was flying.

But how can you compare a horse who was 4th in the Sunland Park derby to maybe the greatest thoroughbred of all time.

And just because the last 1/2 mile was in secretariat like speed... you have to incorporate the FINAL time for the whole race... which was like 3 full seconds slower than Secretariat.. or 18 lenghts slower.

thats right buddy, if they would have ran identical races this past saturday and were both in the field, Secretariat would have won the race by 18 lengths. Thats almost like how Rachel Alexandra won her race.

Does that help at all?



and please do not respond with... "he was flying the last 1/2 mile, no?"

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

I'm actually half willing to buy the oxygen deprevation training angle on Mine that Bird, incidentally.

I'm sorry I opened this can of worms by comparing final half times of this year's Derby with those of Ghostzapper and others. I should be banned.

Dont worry about it Slotdirt, I'm pretty sure the person living underneath Gales apartment is running a meth lab in there and the fumes are traveling up.

[gales0678]

aren't races in the mud going to be slower than on a fast track?

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by gales0678

aren't races in the mud going to be slower than on a fast track?

i have no idea, but the track super said the track was wet/fast.

Also I gauruntee or however you spell it, that Secretariat would not have run 3 seconds slower if the track had been wet.

Probably would have run the same time.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

i have no idea, but the track super said the track was wet/fast.

Also I gauruntee or however you spell it, that Secretariat would not have run 3 seconds slower if the track had been wet.

Probably would have run the same time.

ok fair eneough , im not saying he is Secretariat , what i am trying to say is , if he runs past the same cast of characters in the prekaness the same way as he did in the ky derby won't those horses feel as though they can't win going into the belmont - won't they know they are to pardon the phraze boys against a man???

i mean he didn't beat them , he drubbed them , someome who saw it live said he would have continued opening up on them if they went around again

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by gales0678

ok fair eneough , im not saying he is Secretariat , what i am trying to say is , if he runs past the same cast of characters in the prekaness the same way as he did in the ky derby won't those horses feel as though they can't win going into the belmont - won't they know they are to pardon the phraze boys against a man???

i mean he didn't beat them , he drubbed them , someome who saw it live said he would have continued opening up on them if they went around again

What makes you think that he is going to be running against the same horses if he should pull another upset out of his ass?

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by gales0678

ok fair eneough , im not saying he is Secretariat , what i am trying to say is , if he runs past the same cast of characters in the prekaness the same way as he did in the ky derby won't those horses feel as though they can't win going into the belmont - won't they know they are to pardon the phraze boys against a man???

i mean he didn't beat them , he drubbed them , someome who saw it live said he would have continued opening up on them if they went around again

What makes you think that he is going to be running against the same horses if he should pull another upset out of his ass?

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

What makes you think that he is going to be running against the same horses if he should pull another upset out of his ass?

explain to me how winning by 7 lengths and pulling away from the field is pulling an upset out of his a**?

you make a valid point , he could face fresh horses in the belmont - we'll see about that after round #2

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by gales0678

lori help me out kid, can you find the fastest last 1/4's or 6f in the last 20 -40yrs in the derby the horse was flying like a freight train

Street Sense ran his last 6 furlongs in 1:12.79 as opposed to Mine That Bird going 1:12.95 but nice try. And if you really find the need to bring Secretariat into the discussion, well he ran his last 6 furlongs in 1:10.56.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by gales0678

explain to me how winning by 7 lengths and pulling away from the field is pulling an upset out of his a**?

you make a valid point , he could face fresh horses in the belmont - we'll see about that after round #2

The 2 probably favorites and (my opinion best horses) IWR & Quality Road scratch + post time favorite Fresian Fire not breaking clean and getting to the front +the track condition + an absolute tremendous ride on the best part of the track = Mine that Bird lighting up the toteboard. To use someone else's quote, "It was the Perfect Storm".

[pointman]

Originally Posted by gales0678

fat - look at how he closed in the KY Derby , just like Secretariat

I hope that these horse don't get ruined like the one's that ran against Big Red in the TC

remember Sham in the Belmont , he was like a little kid out there running against Big Red , if Mike Smith doesn't botch this next Sat , i think we could get a TC winner this year fat

Post of the year!