Newt Gingrich! for President! 2012 !

[herkhorse]

Newt said he can make the whole country just like Texas.

















no thanks.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Riot

Psst ... pretty sure it's the same part escaping you

LMAO. Is it true you're the Queen of the morons?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Can you show me where I said you changed a post of mine? I don't remember sayong you have changed a post of mine. You could be putting words into my mouth like you have a habit of doing you worthless' despicable ----. You will cease to amaze me. I like how you always entertain me.

Dear god, you surely can't be this stupid, to read what I wrote and take the above crazy loon interpretation away from it. No, wait - you are indeed.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by herkhorse

Newt said he can make the whole country just like Texas.

















no thanks.

Hey, Rick Perry is keeping his state barely afloat financially with plenty of federal government funds. While talking out of the other side of his mouth about how independent Texas is.

Yeah, let's have some more of that, and some more government shutdown and failure, Newt

It's sad to watch the current incarnation of the Republican Party go so far to the right, they are literally falling off the edge of civilization. Strange cult they have become.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Why don't you talk your own advice? Also try and make me STFU if you have the courage to do it!!!

STFU

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

You ask me a question and I was decent enough to answer it. You give me this for response? Go crawl back to your hole.

STFU

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

You will cease to amaze me.

Soon I hope.

Or you just don't know how the saying goes.

1/9 on the latter.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Soon I hope.

Or you just don't know how the saying goes.

1/9 on the latter.

You are just going to be told to drink your 4(6_ juice

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by jms62

You are just going to be told to drink your 4(6_ juice

DON'T EDIT MY POSTS.

[Princess Doreen]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Sounds about right, would be interested in how the remaining 20% breaks down if anyone has that data.

http://www.census.gov/compendia/stat...es/11s0075.pdf - 75.9% Christian

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religio..._United_States 78.5% Christian

http://religions.pewforum.org/reports 78.4% Christian

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by miraja2

On the whole I thought it was a good performance by him today. You are probably right to say that his comment about "right wing social engineering" will hurt him with the religious right, but I don't think that was ever his path to the nomination anyway. Mainly he'll need to soundly beat guys like Romney with college-eduacted voters in the suburbs of Des Moines and Manchester (and places like that) to win the nomination. Performances like he gave today could help him pull it off.
Sure it was his usual collection of thoughtless bluster and nonsense dressed up to sound like actual, rational ideas.....but I thought his style/delivery were perfect for a presidential candidate. I'm never sure exactly how much something like a solid MTP performance helps a candidate, but I thought he was good today.

Apparently this was horrible analysis on my part.
The Republican Party is in an uproar over his dismissal of the Paul Ryan plan on the show. Ryan, Rush, and Beck have all denounced Newt, and most Republicans appear to be treating him as a traitor to the cause.
I said the particular comment would hurt him with the far right, but that his overall performance on the show might help his chances when it came to the nomination. It would seem I was probably wrong. I sometimes forget that the far right wackos are the Republican Party.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Apparently this was horrible analysis on my part.
The Republican Party is in an uproar over his dismissal of the Paul Ryan plan on the show. Ryan, Rush, and Beck have all denounced Newt, and most Republicans appear to be treating him as a traitor to the cause.
I said the particular comment would hurt him with the far right, but that his overall performance on the show might help his chances when it came to the nomination. It would seem I was probably wrong. I sometimes forget that the far right wackos are the Republican Party.

Well, Newt is what Republicans used to be. I thought your analysis spot on. The screeching harpy Republican News Channel attack wasn't all that predictable.

What this shows is how quickly and how far the Republican party has changed in the past few years. The party has lurched very, very far to the right, is quite out of the mainstream of what used to define "conservative values", and is not representative in the least of what it's always been in modern history.

The Tea Party is now actively fighting Boehner, too, as Boehner recognizes the debt limit has to be raised, and told them so to their face last week. It's beyond absurd. They want to demagogue this country into disaster, reality be damned. It's downright scary.

We had a primary election today in Kentucky (home of Rand Paul, unfortunately): Republicans had the very VERY southern conservative long term state bigwig (an extreme conservative to start with, compared to the 1990's and previous) versus an even more extreme Tea Party candidate. The Tea Party candidate gave him a run for his money, the state bigwig Williams only got 48% of the vote. And the Tea Party candidate beat him in the strongly democratic progressive areas of Fayette Country!

So it seems that conservative minorities in strongly democratic areas are going even more extreme? We'll see. Very low voter turnout.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

STFU



STFU

Once again try and make me STFU.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Riot

Well, Newt is what Republicans used to be. I thought your analysis spot on. The screeching harpy Republican News Channel attack wasn't all that predictable.

What this shows is how quickly and how far the Republican party has changed in the past few years. The party has lurched very, very far to the right, is quite out of the mainstream of what used to define "conservative values", and is not representative in the least of what it's always been in modern history.

The Tea Party is now actively fighting Boehner, too, as Boehner recognizes the debt limit has to be raised, and told them so to their face last week. It's beyond absurd. They want to demagogue this country into disaster, reality be damned. It's downright scary.

We had a primary election today in Kentucky (home of Rand Paul, unfortunately): Republicans had the very VERY southern conservative long term state bigwig (an extreme conservative to start with, compared to the 1990's and previous) versus an even more extreme Tea Party candidate. The Tea Party candidate gave him a run for his money, the state bigwig Williams only got 48% of the vote. And the Tea Party candidate beat him in the strongly democratic progressive areas of Fayette Country!

So it seems that conservative minorities in strongly democratic areas are going even more extreme? We'll see. Very low voter turnout.

As little regard as I have for Newt, I agree that it's troubling the response to his comments...the Republican Party is drastically shifting far right and I can only hope the majority of Americans see this because if they gain control it will be a disaster.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

As little regard as I have for Newt, I agree that it's troubling the response to his comments...the Republican Party is drastically shifting far right and I can only hope the majority of Americans see this because if they gain control it will be a disaster.

It's the "no compromise at all" position being held by what appears to be a minority. Why the GOP is allowing themselves to be held hostage is beyond me. They are afraid of losing the base - well, independents (many Republicans who do not want to associate with the current) will have nothing to do with that crazy train, the sensible GOP should go back to what they have always been. Just stand up for their values.

The Republican party has to be holding on to the crazies for electoral volume only, only as shifting demographics of the future favor more "democratic" leaning voters to be created. I imagine the Republicans fear a large Democratic party, with a smaller Republican party and a Tea Party.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Once again try and make me STFU.

STFU

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

STFU

LMAO. Is that the best you can do?

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Soon I hope.

Or you just don't know how the saying goes.

1/9 on the latter.

Big deal I forgot to put a word in.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

DON'T EDIT MY POSTS.

YOU DONT EDIT MY POSTS I WONT EDIT YOUR POSTS.

[dino]

I'm a big time right wing Republican but the party is self destructing by trotting out guys like Newt. As much as the country is down on our current "worst president ever" Republican's need to offer more than the Newt's of the world in order to get back in office. Maybe we need some new blood like Chris Christie, minus 50 lbs.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by dino

I'm a big time right wing Republican but the party is self destructing by trotting out guys like Newt. As much as the country is down on our current "worst president ever" Republican's need to offer more than the Newt's of the world in order to get back in office. Maybe we need some new blood like Chris Christie, minus 50 lbs.

I've always respected fiscal Republicans..I may not agree with their position, but I can understand their logic. It's the social right wing that is the problem and is what will keep the fiscal right from ever being able to advance their cause. If they could ever just figure out that most Americans don't want to be socially engineered, they might get somewhere.

And I'm not sure how you can say that the country is down on President Obama? Right wingers are and will always hate anyone not like them, but when he wins again next year you might think twice about what "most of the country thinks"