The Two Old Guys

[Exceller]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Oh, they made 3 seperate win bets. I will get my losing ticket tonight.

I hope you are lying because I feel bad for you if you dropped that type of money. If you are serious, get the ticket. Not saying you were the victim of a con, but that is one of the oldest cons in betting. Nobody wins 30 out of 31. It just doesn't happen in horse racing. In fact, my cousin said it doesn't even happen in football betting where guys get on runs. He said the best he has ever even heard of is 13 out of 14 in football where it is 50-50. Either I am sorry you lost, sorry if you were the victim of a con, or happy if you are just full of it like everyone on chat rooms.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by Exceller

Sure, I am the idiot. I am just gonna guess you never even had enough money to make a large bet with a sports book, because THEY DO NOT TAKE THEM IN THE LAST MINUTE OF BETTING. What don't you understand about that? You are almost as full of crap as the other guy.

Sonny, you are a ****ing fool. In fact, you win the Spitshine Tommy Award for the month.

Now you're going to tell me what kind of money I have. Hope yuou feel better.

I just hope your family gives you enough money to keep you happy, but not enough to get into a lot of trouble. Lord knows you don't have the good sense to go out and earn it on your own.

Go on, make the next phone call.

[Exceller]

Originally Posted by Scav

First off, when have I bet boxing? I have bet on alot of stuff, but to this date, not boxing....ever

You feel bad for me? No, I feel bad for you that you have to condrict everything people have to say.

If I am up 5k, what is playing a $2,000 place bet matter, I am playing with their money. When i am up, I go for the jugglar.....This isn't my primary source of income, when it becomes that i will play tighter

I believe you were the one saying you were going to vegas to bet on boxing. Look, I spent a few years in the military and now own a car dealership, and I know gamblers/conmen and salespeople, just be careful. If you keep betting like that you are going to get yourself in trouble with the wrong people.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by Exceller

I believe you were the one saying you were going to vegas to bet on boxing. Look, I spent a few years in the military and now own a car dealership, and I know gamblers/conmen and salespeople, just be careful. If you keep betting like that you are going to get yourself in trouble with the wrong people.

How much you dump on the rat chalk New Awakening in the 3rd at Churchill?

[whorstman]

Originally Posted by Buffymommy

Just not after I have had a drink, which I think I will tonight. Having a little get together to wish me luck in my show this weekend. DRINK UP!

Hey I'm going to $1 beer night at the Bats game, I'll toast one of the several I drink to wish you luck!

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Exceller

I believe you were the one saying you were going to vegas to bet on boxing. Look, I spent a few years in the military and now own a car dealership, and I know gamblers/conmen and salespeople, just be careful. If you keep betting like that you are going to get yourself in trouble with the wrong people.

He said this:

"Does anyone know that if there is a big fight out there (Mandalay Bay) will the other sportsbook purchase the fight for others to watch? UFC has a huge match when I am out there, and I am going to unload on Ortiz to smoke Shamrock, hoping to watch it...I am praying for a Pick Six carryover that is huge somewhere for that Friday so I can play it, hit it for 50k and then take everyone to the fight ringside and get sloppy drunk and start fights of our own. Guessing that won't happen, I want to watch Ortiz whoop his behind......"

And I think he was kidding...

Originally Posted by Exceller

I hope you are lying because I feel bad for you if you dropped that type of money. If you are serious, get the ticket. Not saying you were the victim of a con, but that is one of the oldest cons in betting. Nobody wins 30 out of 31. It just doesn't happen in horse racing. In fact, my cousin said it doesn't even happen in football betting where guys get on runs. He said the best he has ever even heard of is 13 out of 14 in football where it is 50-50. Either I am sorry you lost, sorry if you were the victim of a con, or happy if you are just full of it like everyone on chat rooms.

I dont understand why that is so hard to believe. I mean if you bet Cigar you won 16 times in a row. But I have seen their winnings and losing over the past years. Believe what you want. I lost $2500 so I have lost everything that I won over the past 3 months--lol. I think anyone can hit tons in a row if you bet 10 times a year. Especially when you wager on heavy favs in small fields.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Exceller

I believe you were the one saying you were going to vegas to bet on boxing. Look, I spent a few years in the military and now own a car dealership, and I know gamblers/conmen and salespeople, just be careful. If you keep betting like that you are going to get yourself in trouble with the wrong people.

1) I have never bet with a bookie......

2) I am going to Vegas for a bachelor party, I asked about the UFC fight that is going on there, no way I am going to play Ortiz at -550, that is moronic

3) I appreciate your concern, but those people you are talking about, I know all too well, which is the exact reason I will never place a bet with a bookie

I put $500 into my pinnacle account and see how far it takes me, sometimes I wager for four days, sometimes I wager for two hours

[Exceller]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

Sonny, you are a ****ing fool. In fact, you win the Spitshine Tommy Award for the month.

Now you're going to tell me what kind of money I have. Hope yuou feel better.

I just hope your family gives you enough money to keep you happy, but not enough to get into a lot of trouble. Lord knows you don't have the good sense to go out and earn it on your own.

Go on, make the next phone call.

My family give me money? I have owned my own car dealership almost since the day I got out of the service. A family member is very involved in the gambling business and I don't call him, I just send him an e-mail. He thought the 30 out of 31 was the funniest thing he ever heard. I have to agree.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Exceller

My family give me money? I have owned my own car dealership almost since the day I got out of the service. A family member is very involved in the gambling business and I don't call him, I just send him an e-mail. He thought the 30 out of 31 was the funniest thing he ever heard. I have to agree.

New cars or used? What make?

[Exceller]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

I dont understand why that is so hard to believe. I mean if you bet Cigar you won 16 times in a row. But I have seen their winnings and losing over the past years. Believe what you want. I lost $2500 so I have lost everything that I won over the past 3 months--lol. I think anyone can hit tons in a row if you bet 10 times a year. Especially when you wager on heavy favs in small fields.

You know what, as long as you aren't the victim of some con, I could care less what you say. I don't believe it but who cares what I believe. Just don't give your money to people to bet for you unless you get a ticket. It is a really old con. Oftne people never see their money even if they do win because these guys keep the money and find another horse.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by Exceller

My family give me money? I have owned my own car dealership almost since the day I got out of the service. A family member is very involved in the gambling business and I don't call him, I just send him an e-mail. He thought the 30 out of 31 was the funniest thing he ever heard. I have to agree.

Well good, you can screw another car-buying customer to get back what that Churchill rat cost you in the 3rd. You're still full of **** and do not know what the **** you're talking about.

[Exceller]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

New cars or used? What make?

I prefer certified preowned vehicles.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Exceller

I prefer certified preowned vehicles.

So you own a used car dealership?

[Exceller]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

Well good, you can screw another car-buying customer to get back what that Churchill rat cost you in the 3rd. You're still full of **** and do not know what the **** you're talking about.

I didn't bet him 3-5 is too short for my taste. Even money is where I draw the line.

I am full of it. You know what, I hit 40 out of 41. How is that? LOL.

[Buffymommy]

Originally Posted by whorstman

Hey I'm going to $1 beer night at the Bats game, I'll toast one of the several I drink to wish you luck!

Thank you. I am going to need all the luck I can get. First jumping class I have done. Mostly dressage and hunter classes. I am a bit nervous.

Bats game? What game is that?

[Exceller]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

So you own a used car dealership?

Yes. 50% of two different dealerships actually.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Buffymommy

Thank you. I am going to need all the luck I can get. First jumping class I have done. Mostly dressage and hunter classes. I am a bit nervous.

Bats game? What game is that?

Good luck, Buffy! Jumpers is my specialty, although I haven't jumped a horse in 3 years!

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by Exceller

I prefer certified preowned vehicles.

"Certified" pre-owned is total bull ****. I was in a dealership not long ago. A trade-in had just come in and was parked next to my car where I was standing. Someone wanted to but that exact model.
I saw the "manager" slap a "certified" sticker on the car's windshield before the porter had removed the old owners plates.

Anyone who buys a used car without having their own mechanic check it over is a fool. Car dealers will **** you if given the chance. That is one thing you can be certain about.

Originally Posted by Exceller

I did check out Oracles horse and he might have bought him, it just wasn't for IEAH. He probably bought him directly from Ritvo. As for the offshore question, lets just say I have some family members that take bets for a living. They sometimes try to pawn off bets to the offshore books and they won't take them. Offshore accounts are very sophisticated, they don't allow people to hammer them with wiseguy picks. Do you live in the real world? Yeah, I sound ridiculous but the guy who claims to know people who picked 30 out of 31 doesn't. You can't be that stupid. Can you? Con Artists love you types.

I bought the horse for one of its current owners, Sanford Robbins. Call Ritvo, ask him who bought it, I talkto him all the time. As for you, if that was some sort of retraction, it was a wise move.