How good is Big Brown?

[Travis Stone]

The "secret" of his past physical issues is not a secret.

[Danzig]

i think some people who seem to be jumping on his bandwagon will be elsewhere after the next prep. we see that part of it every year. a few weeks ago pyro was the big deal, especially after war pass threw in his clunker. but pyro hasn't been seen in a few weeks.

hard to say what to think of big brown. he ran well at 9f yesterday-but still plenty of questions about him-others as well of course. but his soundness is an issue, and i would think his ability to remain fit would be affected by that-as well as his ability to run at churchill. like moss said, that track is unkind to bad feet.

[wac]

As i was watching this race yesertday i just kept thinking that surely this horse is gonna give up the ghost at some point.And he just didn't i know that there are some ?'s about the track but stil its just unreal to me that the horse went 45 for the half and just kept going. Have a lot of you seen that? I know that Bellamy Rd in the wood i guess comes up but something else was pointed out and that was the fact that the horse was weaving back and forth and a lot of the times it seems that people say that they are racing greenly but i have always wondered if it was b/c they are running out of gas. All in all it was an unreal display and i was awestruck for like 30mins afterwards.

[Sightseek]

Wicked good.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Wicked good.

I said after the comeback race earlier in the month that Big Brown would be better than any horse that would run in either the Florida Derby, Blue Grass or Wood not named War Pass. I still feel that way. There is no way this horse doesn't finish in the exacta in the Derby if he's in the gate.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I said after the comeback race earlier in the month that Big Brown would be better than any horse that would run in either the Florida Derby, Blue Grass or Wood not named War Pass. I still feel that way. There is no way this horse doesn't finish in the exacta in the Derby if he's in the gate.

that's going out on a limb.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

I just watched the race again and he didn't look too good in the stretch. That doesn't bode well for the derby at all.

with all the extra ground he covered late, he probably ran 9.5f yesterday. looked like franco harris out there.

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I said after the comeback race earlier in the month that Big Brown would be better than any horse that would run in either the Florida Derby, Blue Grass or Wood not named War Pass. I still feel that way. There is no way this horse doesn't finish in the exacta in the Derby if he's in the gate.

Really?!?! Well then it sounds like you're going to be making a lot of money come May 3rd. . . I guess I won't

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

Isn't something done to the track between pretty much every race? I doubt we can tell with the naked eye, or even binoculars, what it is that changes the speed of the surface.

You mean there isnt a big scraper with a neon sign attached to it saying "NOW SCRAPING"? Actually the addition of water especially on a hot day will do alot to tighten up a dirt track.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Danzig

and i would think his ability to remain fit would be affected by that-as well as his ability to run at churchill. like moss said, that track is unkind to bad feet.

And this is based upon?

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

And this is based upon?

Was wondering the same thing myself... I had heard the opposite of Churchill's surface.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

And this is based upon?

i don't know, ask randy moss.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

And this is based upon?

A bunch of nonsense that because the CD track on Derby day typically yields fast times throughout the card that it must be like a paved road and thus horses without the toughest of feet get exposed over it.

Originally Posted by Danzig

i do have a question tho.

i just read the write up on t'bred times and they say that his stamina was never depleted. but what about his stretch run? was he weaving like an irishman on st paddys day because he was green? or was he rubber legged because he ran out of gas?

He was blowing very hard after the race when they were talking to kent.
I remember thinking I wanted him to walk it out, not just sit and do an interview.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i don't know, ask randy moss.

He hasnt been seen since the Super Bowl

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by pgardn

He was blowing very hard after the race when they were talking to kent.

What did you expect? Him to be sitting on a beach chair, sipping a Frank's Energy drink?

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

What did you expect? Him to be sitting on a beach chair, sipping a Frank's Energy drink?

You're in rare form tonight, Chuck.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by pgardn

He was blowing very hard after the race when they were talking to kent.

He only had two workouts all year prior to his return race ....

Being that far behind on seasoning, and running fast early and winning a fast paced 9 furlong race in blowout fashion....he had every right to get tired in the late stages and after the race.

He'd be from another planet if he wasn't a little tired.

[dylbert]

Big Brown may come up four feet short of the Kentucky Derby -- as in his four hooves. Bad feet have stopped many horses through the years.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

You're in rare form tonight, Chuck.

I watched No Country for Old Men tonight and the 457 killings are affecting me.