World wants Obama

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

He was probably just traumatized by this..

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/456363...the_white_man/

...as we all should be! You DO have a varied scheme of things.......

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i don't agree of course with anyone who labels an entire group, or advocates killing anyone. but how would saying 'all muslims' be any different than that fellow and his probable feelings toward 'all whites'? bigotry and xenophobia are no better than racism, sexism, etc. they are all based on fear of what's different, unknown, stereotyping, etc.

Don't don't go all homogenous on us now....sexism is the least of the sins you
listed in your post!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Don't don't go all homogenous on us now....sexism is the least of the sins you
listed in your post!

is it? women have lost their jobs due to a bible interpretation that says women can't be 'over' men. women have suffered physically, mentally and emotionally due to sexism. there may not have been lynchings by sexist groups, but what about rape? what about sexist views world wide, where women are treated as property? where women are thrown on their dead husbands funeral pyre along with the rest of his 'possessions'? or women who are forced to endure humiliating surgery? not allowed to drive, stoned to death because they dared speak to a man, or their sleeve moved up and they showed a wrist?

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Danzig

is it? women have lost their jobs due to a bible interpretation that says women can't be 'over' men. women have suffered physically, mentally and emotionally due to sexism. there may not have been lynchings by sexist groups, but what about rape? what about sexist views world wide, where women are treated as property? where women are thrown on their dead husbands funeral pyre along with the rest of his 'possessions'? or women who are forced to endure humiliating surgery? not allowed to drive, stoned to death because they dared speak to a man, or their sleeve moved up and they showed a wrist?

Great post. I don't understand how anyone could brush off the evil in sexism.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Zig, being a sexist is way down on the list of things poor Dimmy is. I just hope by election time all of his predjudice's come out.

but these prejudices aren't limited to certain areas, opr certain people-which is something some either justify, or ignore, or gladly embrace.

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I think this deserves a Go Fucl< Yourself b1tch. Dont be too upset that you're part of that 85% of the population who are idiots.

You're the one who can't spell a name that's constantly in the media and I'm the idiot

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Danzig

is it? women have lost their jobs due to a bible interpretation that says women can't be 'over' men. women have suffered physically, mentally and emotionally due to sexism. there may not have been lynchings by sexist groups, but what about rape? what about sexist views world wide, where women are treated as property? where women are thrown on their dead husbands funeral pyre along with the rest of his 'possessions'? or women who are forced to endure humiliating surgery? not allowed to drive, stoned to death because they dared speak to a man, or their sleeve moved up and they showed a wrist?

Oh stop,please...you're lumping all those actions to OUR culture,which is BS!
This is so beneath where you usually speak!

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Great post. I don't understand how anyone could brush off the evil in sexism.

Put a fuc<ing diaper on....who's brushing it off? you want to say the culture clash between men and women(in America) is the same as the Middle East and Europe and Asia?? Quite a stretch in my book

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Zig, being a sexist is way down on the list of things poor Dimmy is. I just hope by election time all of his predjudice's come out.

Hey Horses Ass..my wife and daughters are treated a hell of alot better than the others around me both in Cali and GA. The predjudices you speak of are your projection about me, which have no basis in fact!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Oh stop,please...you're lumping all those actions to OUR culture,which is BS!
This is so beneath where you usually speak!

i understand that some of that doesn't happen here, but trust me, if anyone knows whether sexism rears its ugly head, i would know. and there are (sadly) plenty right here in THIS country who think women need to be 'put in their place'-and outside the home isn't it.
matter of fact, on that subject...do you know that most insurance companies cover male enhancement drugs as a prescribed medicine, but not birth control pills?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Hey Horses Ass..my wife and daughters are treated a hell of alot better than the others around me both in Cali and GA. The predjudices you speak of are your projection about me, which have no basis in fact!

you just backed up my arguement regarding sexism.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i understand that some of that doesn't happen here, but trust me, if anyone knows whether sexism rears its ugly head, i would know. and there are (sadly) plenty right here in THIS country who think women need to be 'put in their place'-and outside the home isn't it.
matter of fact, on that subject...do you know that most insurance companies cover male enhancement drugs as a prescribed medicine, but not birth control pills?

Neither of us deal very often with these types,I think. The problem with the
medication is a financial one, as most women apparently use birth control of some type, and no one ever said the insurance carriers were humanitarian!
I dont think think "trojans" are covered by insurance,either

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Danzig

you just backed up my arguement regarding sexism.

EXplain!

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Really??

So someone else said these things?





This is my favorite, religion makes people accountable for their actions. Tell that to the vatican and the hundreds of priests that HAVE NOT been held accountable for molesting children.



And finally....



You said these things not me. Hard not to make projections based on your words.

The Catholic Church is guilty of those things...I'm with you on that! I said God doesn't smoke..how is that an insight into my thoughts?
The visitor from another country would explain the stilted view stated in his posts,imo! What else ya got? Read slower...you won't miss so much

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Danzig

oh no, religion being brought into it!! j/k

and i think mccain altered his message to be more palatable to 'the party'. it worked, he got the nomination- one of my chief problems with having two parties with such power. you have to tie the party line, or they drop you-like with joe lieberman.

I tend to believe this also.. and based on McCain's convention speech.. he sounded just like the old McCain of 2000. I loved how he called out the repubs in power.

As far as commander in chief goes, just gonna have to agree to disagree with ateam on this. For I think he's just as wrong with his opinion as he thinks I'm wrong with my opinion.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

McCain appeals to almost every selfish, cheap, or racist voter in the country. Zig, that's simply a lot of folks. You remember that racist Marge Scott,right? Cincy's finest representative voter.

you forgot to add "smart" also.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

As far as commander in chief goes, just gonna have to agree to disagree with ateam on this. For I think he's just as wrong with his opinion as he thinks I'm wrong with my opinion.

LOL, he started an unnecessary $2 trillion war. That should be end of discussion when it comes to 'commander in chief' chops.

[Crown@club]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

If you remember Clinton's 'Bridge to the 21st century' acceptance speech at the '96 DNC he ruined it by droning on for minutes about the great future threat of foreign terrorisim.

Much like with Scuds Dodgers obssesion - few people really cared about the subject at the time - and it was vintage Clinton fear mongering .. albeit at levels that have unbelievably been topped by the Chimp.

I'd love to know how Clinton was supposed to stop an ultra high concept, low tech, type of attack that occured 9 months after he left office.

I guess he could have personally captured and killed Osama bin Laden before the plans were made - probably not an easy task considering he's still at helm of Al Qaeda 7 years after the execution of 9/11.

I reffered to bin Laden a couple of times and compared a poster to him in posts at the old AOL Horse Racing board before the attacts on 9/11. A few people who post here remember them - and people seemed to have no idea who the hell bin Laden was at the time.

The USS Cole attack was overshadowed bigtime in the press by what was going in with the Bush and Gore fiasco. I wish Clinton would have tried to use the USS Cole as an excuse to launch an invasion on a random foreign country that had nothing to do with the incident.

Clinton had all intel coming into him on anything Al-qaida and did nothing.
How about these events?
February 1993: Muslim extremists (al-Gama'a al-Islamiyya, possibly with involvement of friendly rival al-Qaida) set off a bomb in the basement of the World Trade Center, killing six and wounding more than 1,000.

Spring 1993: Muslim extremists (al-Gama'a al-Islamiyya, the Sudanese Islamic Front and at least one member of Hamas) plot to blow up the Lincoln and Holland tunnels, the U.N. complex, and the FBI's lower Manhattan headquarters.

November 1995: Muslim extremists (possibly Iranian "Party of God") explode a car bomb at U.S. military headquarters in Saudi Arabia, killing five U.S. military servicemen.

June 1996: Muslim extremists (13 Saudis and a Lebanese member of Hezbollah, probably with involvement of al-Qaida) explode a truck bomb outside the Khobar Towers military complex, killing 19 American servicemen and injuring hundreds.

August 1998: Muslim extremists (al-Qaida) explode truck bombs at U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, killing 224 and injuring thousands.

What were Clinton's response again?

(Blank)

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Crown@club

Clinton had all intel coming into him on anything Al-qaida and did nothing.
How about these events?
February 1993: Muslim extremists (al-Gama'a al-Islamiyya, possibly with involvement of friendly rival al-Qaida) set off a bomb in the basement of the World Trade Center, killing six and wounding more than 1,000.

Spring 1993: Muslim extremists (al-Gama'a al-Islamiyya, the Sudanese Islamic Front and at least one member of Hamas) plot to blow up the Lincoln and Holland tunnels, the U.N. complex, and the FBI's lower Manhattan headquarters.

November 1995: Muslim extremists (possibly Iranian "Party of God") explode a car bomb at U.S. military headquarters in Saudi Arabia, killing five U.S. military servicemen.

June 1996: Muslim extremists (13 Saudis and a Lebanese member of Hezbollah, probably with involvement of al-Qaida) explode a truck bomb outside the Khobar Towers military complex, killing 19 American servicemen and injuring hundreds.

August 1998: Muslim extremists (al-Qaida) explode truck bombs at U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, killing 224 and injuring thousands.

What were Clinton's response again?

(Blank)

Correct....but wait!...one of these knuckleheads said nobody died when Clinton lied(or was derelict in his duty)! C&C: nice of you to drop by....

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

LOL, he started an unnecessary $2 trillion war. That should be end of discussion when it comes to 'commander in chief' chops.

the whole fin' country was behind the war when it was started. dems and repubs. More Democrats voted FOR the war than Not for. (I briefly counted 29 dems for, and 23 against). I remember speaking to my friend who works as an arabic translator in the navy b4 the war (and hes a dem) and he told me we will be suprised by the amount of WMD's we will find over there.

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LI...0237&session=2

You wont find Obama's vote cause he was still doing nothing in the state senate.