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Old 06-15-2009, 12:52 PM
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Unemployment is at 9.4%. Remember when Obama and co said their plan would never allow it to get over 8%? You know like a few months ago? what about when it hits 10% +? Are we still gonna get puff pieces about Obama's new suit and good looks? When the dollar crashes and oil continues to rise and gas prices hit $3.50 a gallon you think he will still have a 62% approval rating? There a lot of people in this country that are very much against this regime and birth certificates, race, and religion have nothing to do with it.
This is exactly what i said. The Democrats used Burnsteins projections and you are surprised that Obama is making Biden and Burnstein defend thier faulty numbers? Saying that Obama himself wasn't actually quoted is petty.
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Old 06-15-2009, 12:55 PM
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And the unemployment rate is the worst gauge of it cause of how it is calculated. And is exactly why I think you are making up that Obama ever said it wouldn't get over 8%.
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Old 06-15-2009, 01:00 PM
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And Obama never said it. Had you said members of Obama's economic team said it wouldn't get above 8% you would have at least been half right. If you wanted to make your point and be accurate (rarely a consideration on here) you would have said "the Obama team said if the stimulus bill wasn't passed the rate would go above 8% yet look where we are now with the stimulus bill having passed". That would be a valid statement and would have made your point.
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Old 06-15-2009, 01:08 PM
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And Obama never said it. Had you said members of Obama's economic team said it wouldn't get above 8% you would have at least been half right. If you wanted to make your point and be accurate (rarely a consideration on here) you would have said "the Obama team said if the stimulus bill wasn't passed the rate would go above 8% yet look where we are now with the stimulus bill having passed". That would be a valid statement and would have made your point.

scott... this is way too silly... So now if the "White House" or "Obama team" says something, its not actually Obama's belief? Obama is now not even responsible for the actions of HIS White House??


Yet every single little thing... even if it was implemented by a Demcrat controlled congress.. was Bush's fault, right?
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Old 06-15-2009, 01:12 PM
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scott... this is way too silly... So now if the "White House" or "Obama team" says something, its not actually Obama's belief? Obama is now not even responsible for the actions of HIS White House??


Yet every single little thing... even if it was implemented by a Demcrat controlled congress.. was Bush's fault, right?
Where do you see me on here saying everything was Bush's fault and Congress is doing nothing wrong? Obama wasn't even in the White House when Bernstein made the comment.

All I was asking for was a source, cause way too often on here people are misquoted and the quotes are misattributed without a source to back them up.
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Old 06-15-2009, 01:13 PM
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I think the unemployment rate is higher than given.
Either that, or way too many people are posting on DT from work.

Get on the job people.
America and productivity dont ya know...
Crunch those numbers or whatever damnit!
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Old 06-15-2009, 01:21 PM
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And Obama never said it. Had you said members of Obama's economic team said it wouldn't get above 8% you would have at least been half right. If you wanted to make your point and be accurate (rarely a consideration on here) you would have said "the Obama team said if the stimulus bill wasn't passed the rate would go above 8% yet look where we are now with the stimulus bill having passed". That would be a valid statement and would have made your point.
Did you miss the "and company" part? They have already publicly acknowledged the mistake therefore the assumption was that what I said was 100% correct and accurate. Just because you didnt know what they promised and accused me of making it up doesnt make you a bad guy...
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Old 06-16-2009, 08:26 AM
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Boy, that answers my Carter question perfectly.


The worst President in American history was back in the news today (how many libs are gonna respond, BusH? )

So he thinks Hamas is the good guys! How the hell did this guy ever get elected? I'm so glad I was not alive when this moron was President. Werent interest rates and inflation incredibly high when he was the Pres also? Again, how was he elected?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...za-discovered/

"Meanwhile, a Palestinian source told FOX News that the group had discovered two roadside bombs planted near a crossing between Israel and Gaza on a path Carter's convoy took to meet with the group's leaders.

According to the source, the bombs were intended to hit Carter's vehicle as he exited Gaza. There is some suspicion that Hamas extremists linked to Al Qaeda may be behind the attempt."


So the Hamas tries to kill him... but some other Hamas guys stopped it... and he thinks they arent terrorists? This guy is insane.
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Old 06-16-2009, 08:37 AM
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The worst President in American history was back in the news today (how many libs are gonna respond, BusH? )

So he thinks Hamas is the good guys! How the hell did this guy ever get elected? I'm so glad I was not alive when this moron was President. Werent interest rates and inflation incredibly high when he was the Pres also? Again, how was he elected?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...za-discovered/

"Meanwhile, a Palestinian source told FOX News that the group had discovered two roadside bombs planted near a crossing between Israel and Gaza on a path Carter's convoy took to meet with the group's leaders.

According to the source, the bombs were intended to hit Carter's vehicle as he exited Gaza. There is some suspicion that Hamas extremists linked to Al Qaeda may be behind the attempt."


So the Hamas tries to kill him... but some other Hamas guys stopped it... and he thinks they arent terrorists? This guy is insane.

Look at who proceeded him...
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Old 06-16-2009, 09:24 AM
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Look at who proceeded him...
Nixon was just before his time...
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Old 06-16-2009, 09:25 AM
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The worst President in American history was back in the news today (how many libs are gonna respond, BusH? )

So he thinks Hamas is the good guys! How the hell did this guy ever get elected? I'm so glad I was not alive when this moron was President. Werent interest rates and inflation incredibly high when he was the Pres also? Again, how was he elected?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...za-discovered/

"Meanwhile, a Palestinian source told FOX News that the group had discovered two roadside bombs planted near a crossing between Israel and Gaza on a path Carter's convoy took to meet with the group's leaders.

According to the source, the bombs were intended to hit Carter's vehicle as he exited Gaza. There is some suspicion that Hamas extremists linked to Al Qaeda may be behind the attempt."


So the Hamas tries to kill him... but some other Hamas guys stopped it... and he thinks they arent terrorists? This guy is insane.

he got elected because it was either him or gerald ford.
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Old 06-17-2009, 07:24 PM
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As any new president is and more so because he is black.
Or he says he is black. But overwhelming supportive of his
economic policies... no frggn way. The press is interviewing
numerous economists and bankers etc... that are all pointing
out what they think to be huge flaws. Almost everyday.

And its easy because Obama is moving at lightning speed.
Car companies, banks, carbon emission standards, so much
is taking place... its all over. Including criticism.

If you think the average Joe in the US is just fine okdokie
with all these new things being rushed through I dont think
you are reading the public or the press that I am reading.

They clearly are fawning over him and family personally.
But NOT his economic policies.
A substantial majority of Americans say President Obama has not developed a strategy to deal with the budget deficit, according to the latest New York Times/CBS News poll, which also found that support for his plans to overhaul health care, rescue the auto industry and close the prison at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, falls well below his job approval ratings.
The poll found a distinct gulf between Mr. Obama’s overall standing and how some of his key initiatives are viewed, with fewer than half of Americans saying they approve of how he has handled health care and the effort to save General Motors and Chrysler. A majority of people said his policies have had either no effect yet on improving the economy or had made it worse, underscoring how his political strength still rests on faith in his leadership rather than concrete results.


For conservatives who think Obama is getting a free ride on his policies.
Might not take the above seriously as it is from the flawed NY Times.
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Old 06-17-2009, 08:09 PM
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A substantial majority of Americans say President Obama has not developed a strategy to deal with the budget deficit, according to the latest New York Times/CBS News poll, which also found that support for his plans to overhaul health care, rescue the auto industry and close the prison at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, falls well below his job approval ratings.
The poll found a distinct gulf between Mr. Obama’s overall standing and how some of his key initiatives are viewed, with fewer than half of Americans saying they approve of how he has handled health care and the effort to save General Motors and Chrysler. A majority of people said his policies have had either no effect yet on improving the economy or had made it worse, underscoring how his political strength still rests on faith in his leadership rather than concrete results.


For conservatives who think Obama is getting a free ride on his policies.
Might not take the above seriously as it is from the flawed NY Times.
It is poll. The times cant get extra credit for simply reporting the results of its own poll. I'm sure there was a corresponding op-ed piece stating how flawed the polls results were by blaming Bush, Rush or Palin.
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Old 06-17-2009, 08:41 PM
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It is poll. The times cant get extra credit for simply reporting the results of its own poll. I'm sure there was a corresponding op-ed piece stating how flawed the polls results were by blaming Bush, Rush or Palin.
yes it is so it is very hard to make odd opinions as they
so obviously do with their agenda. The few comments they make on
the results of the poll are not exactly flaming liberal comments:

A majority of people said his policies have had either no effect yet on improving the economy or had made it worse, underscoring how his political strength still rests on faith in his leadership rather than concrete results.



Are you not shocked they even published it?
And on the front page...

I will again copy what I wrote:

If you think the average Joe in the US is just fine okdokie
with all these new things being rushed through I dont think
you are reading the public or the press that I am reading.

They clearly are fawning over him and family personally.
But NOT his economic policies.
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Old 06-18-2009, 09:20 AM
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yes it is so it is very hard to make odd opinions as they
so obviously do with their agenda. The few comments they make on
the results of the poll are not exactly flaming liberal comments:

A majority of people said his policies have had either no effect yet on improving the economy or had made it worse, underscoring how his political strength still rests on faith in his leadership rather than concrete results.



Are you not shocked they even published it?
And on the front page...

I will again copy what I wrote:

If you think the average Joe in the US is just fine okdokie
with all these new things being rushed through I dont think
you are reading the public or the press that I am reading.

They clearly are fawning over him and family personally.
But NOT his economic policies.
The poll shows that the average Joe isnt ok with the agenda, despite the generally slanted media coverage
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Old 06-18-2009, 10:30 AM
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The poll shows that the average Joe isnt ok with the agenda, despite the generally slanted media coverage
Yes.
This is what I posted.

Coming from commie sources like NPR and the NY Times.

And serioulsy you have to expect the public to like the
Obama's personally. The first black president. He is the first president
that does not look like some Banker. (the process is really open!)
Very bright. Incredible story in his rise to what he is today.
And he wrote about it in some not so kind ways.
And he has little kids in the White House, little kids...
its JFK like, kids crawling under his desk while
he signs some important document.

Now his smoking. I got a big problem with that personally.
And he is extraordinarily cocky. He must drive his speech
writers nuts because he is sure he is better than all of them
given the time. I guarantee you he thinks he would make
a better Supreme Court justice than anyone he could nominate.
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