Zenyatta

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I agree with you about that. Most of these big owners don't need the money. But I was curious if HOY is really important to Dahoss since he was needling SO about it. I doubt HOY is actually that big of a deal to Dahoss. He's acting like winning HOY is such a big deal but I doubt it is even a big deal to him.

Nope. Smooth Operator was the one who brought up HOY. And it meant a ton to Zenyatta's connections. That's why it's relevant.

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator

By the way, where was YOUR reigning HotY? LMAO

^^


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Rm6ZSRDLoI

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by DaTruth

The current excuse is that she lost because she was so far back early.

In the next few days, the loss will be blamed on the trip over the Rockies.

while goldikova flew over the atlantic three times, and came away victorious in all three trips.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator

Yeah, a little cleaner trip coming off that turn and she probably gets up.

Nevertheless, she ran like the champion she is in the lane again today.

Take nothing away from the winner, tho … a very nice runner which had a terrific overall record … with multiple scores at CD.

Starting to get your excuses all lined up huh?

Don't forget to blame Bailey's ride on Eddington....that's always a popular one for this sort of thing.

[slotdirt]

Originally Posted by DaTruth

Goldikova has earned her lofty status. How many times has she beaten males? I've lost count.

I believe Goldikova has run 10 of her last 13 starts against males. Not that you were genuinely asking.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Danzig

while goldikova flew over the atlantic three times, and came away victorious in all three trips.

Blind Luck flew across the Rockies six times and won herself the 3-year-old filly Eclipse. She must be some sort of superhorse.

She won the dance competition yesterday. That was just precious d'awwwww!!!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Blind Luck flew across the Rockies six times and won herself the 3-year-old filly Eclipse. She must be some sort of superhorse.

yeah, but those losses....she's a sorry excuse for a top horse.

[Princess Doreen]

Mike's excuse making. I understand he's upset and disappointed, but lay out some kudos to the victor cuz you got enough of them when Zenyatta won. All good things eventually come to an end, my friend.

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...2-D7871AACD9AB

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Danzig

yeah, but those losses....she's a sorry excuse for a top horse.

lol

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

Mike's excuse making. I understand he's upset and disappointed, but lay out some kudos to the victor cuz you got enough of them when Zenyatta won. All good things eventually come to an end, my friend.

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...2-D7871AACD9AB

Mike is making no excuses. He said its my fault.

[The Bid]

It is his fault. He stinks, hes a sack of potatos. Amazing it took him 20 to get her beat.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

If you owned a horse, would HOY be the defining victory for you? I highly doubt that. I think you would rather have your horse win $6.5 million than win HOY.

Yeah, because they really need the money. The HOY was very important to them as was the now blemished record. Me personally, I wouldn't care. But I also would have run her in more ambitious spots.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by The Bid

It is his fault. He stinks, hes a sack of potatos. Amazing it took him 20 to get her beat.

How is it his fault? What specifically did he do wrong?

[The Bid]

When you deal with these owners who have zillions of dollars the only thing that matters is winning. These people play to win, and fullfill their egos. We are very lucky they brought her back and risked an unblemished record for her 6 year old season. We are all very lucky to have witnessed greatness, even in defeat and the owners of Zenyatta should be given a large round of applause for running her through the season, and into the classic. You just don't get to see horses stick around like her. We are all very fortunate and the sport is better because of it. Win, lose, or draw, she was great even in defeat.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

How is it his fault? What specifically did he do wrong?

I dont blame him, but you said yourself you were not sure she could be closer and still finish. He never really gave her the chance to be closer. For a split second I thought she was pulled up right at the start. I could not believe she was that far back.

[The Bid]

what did he do wrong. He got steadied at the Q pole following the wrong horse, he had to wheel her out and lose 5 lengths, he didnt put her into the race quick enough. He did a multitude of things wrong and she still ran through him and was beaten a zap to boot. You don't give a horse that much to overcome, I cannot believe she was in the photo. Nearly any other horse would have folded it up, certainly any in that field would never have made a race of it if they had to put in the work she did.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I dont blame him, but you said yourself you were not sure she could be closer and still finish. He never really gave her the chance to be closer. For a split second I thought she was pulled up right at the start. I could not believe she was that far back.

If you watch the replay he wanted her closer early. He's scrubbing on her when she begins to drop back early. He said she didn't react well to the dirt hitting her in the face. He also said even though she had dealt with it before at Oaklawn, they were small fields. As they rounded into the backstretch she caught up with the field.

He rode a nearly flawless race. I guess it's nice he decided to take the blame, but he deserves none of it. No excuses are necessary. She ran her race and she fell just short. That's what happens when you run against good fields.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by The Bid

what did he do wrong. He got steadied at the Q pole following the wrong horse, he had to wheel her out and lose 5 lengths, he didnt put her into the race quick enough. He did a multitude of things wrong and she still ran through him and was beaten a zap to boot. You don't give a horse that much to overcome, I cannot believe she was in the photo. Nearly any other horse would have folded it up, certainly any in that field would never have made a race of it if they had to put in the work she did.

Smith did nothing wrong. She is what she is. She looked like a drunk down the stretch at Santa Anita last year and was miles behind. Being way back was not that much of a detriment looking at the race again. Dakota Phone was miles back in the dirt mile and won a photo. She lost. Blame was better but she ran a really good race. Blame was going to get the jump on her regardless in this race. He did just enough.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by The Bid

what did he do wrong. He got steadied at the Q pole following the wrong horse, he had to wheel her out and lose 5 lengths, he didnt put her into the race quick enough. He did a multitude of things wrong and she still ran through him and was beaten a zap to boot. You don't give a horse that much to overcome, I cannot believe she was in the photo. Nearly any other horse would have folded it up, certainly any in that field would never have made a race of it if they had to put in the work she did.

He didn't steady and he certainly didn't lose 5 lengths. Watch the replay again. If he tries to circle, she gets beat even more. He did everything he could. She just wasn't good enough to get up.

She doesn't need lame excuses. She ran well. Don't tarnish it with the excuses.