Founding fathers liked taxed government health care

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Your a nice person. Im sure Riot can tell us where all the money is going to come from to pay for this BS insurance. My guess is our brain dead and clueless Pres will take it from the military, retired military, and Social Security. Instead of of a %1.4 raise next year will be a %.5 raise. Yet alot of items a person has to have the price of it goes up.

Why should retired military or any government employee get a guaranteed pent ion? The rest of us working stiffs are on our own with 401k's ira's or SEP's. You are against entitlements except those lining your pocket. I'm sick of supporting your worthless ass

And don't give me the horseshit about protecting me. There hasnt
been a need for that since the 1940's.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by jms62

Why should retired military or any government employee get a guaranteed pent ion? The rest of us working stiffs are on our own with 401k's ira's or SEP's. You are against entitlements except those lining your pocket. I'm sick of supporting your worthless ass

Im sick of a worthless person like you. Maybe this country needs to go to a draft. Im sure you would be too old to get drafted. You would more than likely be a draft dodger anyways. You should of found a job where you could get a pension. DONT BE A WHINY PERSON LIKE YOU ARE WHEN IT COMES TO THE MILITARY? Have you served in any wars? Did you miss any time raising your children because of the military? I still have to work to support my family because my pension doesnt give me the luxury of not working. I LOVE IT YOUR JEALOUS AT ME BECAUSE I COLLECT A PENSION AND HAVE MUCH BETTER MEDICAL INSURANCE THAN YOU. I EARNED THE RIGHT TO HAVE IT. You had a chance when you was young to join the military more than likely. The military won't take a whiny person like you.

Im sick of the whiny FRAUD that you are.


If you don't like that the military gets a pension write to your congressman and have them laugh at you.

I also work and pay taxes just like you.

Didnt you mean PENSION VICE PENT ION?

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Im sick of a worthless SOB like you. Maybe this country needs to go to a draft. Im sure you would be too old to get drafted. You would more than likely be a draft dodger anyways. You should of found a job where you could get a pension. DONT BE A WHINY B TCH LIKE YOU ARE WHEN IT COMES TO THE MILITARY? Have you served in any wars? Did you miss any time raising your children because of the military? I still have to work to support my family because my pension doesnt give me the luxury of not working. I LOVE IT YOUR JEALOUS AT ME BECAUSE I COLLECT AND HAVE MUCH BETTER MEDICAL INSURANCE THAN YOU. I EARNED THE RIGHT TO HAVE IT B TCH. You had a chance when you was young to join the military more than likely. The military won't take a whiny b tch like you.

Im sick of a whiny b tch that you are.

You joined because you had no other options youfukin moron. I am bringing it up to show what kind of hypocrite you are. I have no problem with military pensions but it sickens me to hear you harp about entitlements while collecting yours double****infisted. You are a worthlessfuk. Go cry to stEve to get your thread pulled *****.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by jms62

You joined because you had no other options youfukin moron. I am bringing it up to show what kind of hypocrite you are. I have no problem with military pensions but it sickens me to hear you harp about entitlements while collecting yours double****infisted. You are a worthlessfuk. Go cry to stEve to get your thread pulled *****.

I had other options you worthless SOB. Did the thought come to your worthless mind maybe I wanted to do some traveling? Da gee Tennessee. You have no problems with military pensions? Your the f ckin hypocrite. You cry to me about saying the military doesnt deserve them all the time chief. I see you learned how to spell pension correctly you troll. Again moron I didnt cry to Steve to get that thread pulled. Im more of a man than you ever was or ever will be. Go put your head back in Obama's ASS.

BTW I do have a degree in Accounting. SO I did have other options moron.

Im not getting any handouts to put my son through college like alot of peopel. I wouldnt want a handout from a snake like Obama.


hey you jerk before you go an put my family down we dont get handouts we pay for are childs college Im sure you are living off the ****ing government getting ****ing food stamps and anything else you can get.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

I had other options you worthless SOB. Did the thought come to your worthless mind maybe I wanted to do some traveling? Da gee Tennessee. You have no problems with military pensions? Your the f ckin hypocrite. You cry to me about saying the military doesnt deserve them all the time chief. I see you learned how to spell pension correctly you troll. Again moron I didnt cry to Steve to get that thread pulled. Im more of a man than you ever was or ever will be. Go put your head back in Obama's ASS.

BTW I do have a degree in Accounting. SO I did have other options moron.

Im not getting any handouts to put my son through college like alot of peopel. I wouldnt want a handout from a snake like Obama.

Yeah Harvard was knocking on your door. LOL ... You are a racistfuk and I hate you with the white-hot intensity of a thousand suns.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by jms62

Yeah Harvard was knocking on your door. LOL ... You are a racistfuk and I hate you with the white-hot intensity of a thousand suns.

And your not a racist f ck? I also hate you with the intensity of a million bolts of lightning. And Yale was knocking at your door? Im enjoying you being jealous at what I have and what you dont have and would like to have. Im sure if you work and your boss tells you to do something you whine about it like the racist hypocrite pig that you are. No wonder you wouldn't be able to make it in the military.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

And your not a racist f ck? I also hate you with the intensity of a million bolts of lightning. And Yale was knocking at your door? Im enjoying you being jealous at what I have and what you dont have and would like to have. Im sure if you work and your boss tells you to do something you whine about it like the racist hypocrite pig that you are. No wonder you wouldn't be able to make it in the military.

People are laughing at you for calling me a racist. You realize that.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by jms62

People are laughing at you for calling me a racist. You realize that.

Dont care. Did you forget your remark you made in nascar1966 fan club thread or did you delete it already?

Does this bring up any memories:


#30 04-24-2010, 07:02 AM
jms62
Santa Anita Join Date: Mar 2007
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Is it a requirement that you wear a white sheet and hood to be a member of this club?

Looks racist to me whiny @ss.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

oooooooohhhhkaaaaay

what ever makes your brain happy.

Riot, you should move to a state that has medical marijuana. It will help your knee and your mind!

^^ see I'm giving out positive advice that is in your best interest

My knee was fixed and is fine, thanks. Played indoor tennis on it two days ago. Lawsuit against insurance company for illegal rescission still pending. Doctor and hospital paid completely out of my pocket. Need to buy a saddle horse now that I can ride again.

But I'm sure you don't care, so just ignore all that.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Riot

My knee was fixed and is fine, thanks. Played indoor tennis on it two days ago. Lawsuit against insurance company for illegal rescission still pending. Doctor and hospital paid completely out of my pocket. Need to buy a saddle horse now that I can ride again.

But I'm sure you don't care, so just ignore all that.

Hope you get your wish in getting a saddle horse.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Riot

My knee was fixed and is fine, thanks. Played indoor tennis on it two days ago. Lawsuit against insurance company for illegal rescission still pending. Doctor and hospital paid completely out of my pocket. Need to buy a saddle horse now that I can ride again.

But I'm sure you don't care, so just ignore all that.

I hope you kick their butts in this lawsuit!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Im sure Riot can tell us where all the money is going to come from to pay for this BS insurance. My guess is our brain dead and clueless Pres will take it from the military, retired military, and Social Security.

No. The people who buy this BS insurance pay for it. To those private capitalistic companies who sell it to them and make a profit.

There is no insurance to purchase from the government.

The poor people on Medicaid will be paid for as they are now. Except the PPACA did do some financial adjustments to extend the life of the Medicaid trust by 12 years.

The government will give vouchers to those low income but not poverty-level people that can't afford insurance, to help them pay for a portion of it, based upon income. That is paid for in several ways, none of which involves SS, Medicare or the VA, or retired or military.

Seriously - here are the major provisions in the bill, and how it works, written in plain english, click on it and go read it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patient...dable_Care_Act

Nobody says you have to like it, or agree with it - but you do have the responsibility to dislike or disagree with actual content in the bill, not imaginary, made up talking points of fear mongering.

See, the anger you hold over things in your imagination about this is probably raising your blood pressure, and I'm helping pay for your VA insurance. Preventive care is a good thing.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

The government will give vouchers to those low income but not poverty-level people that can't afford insurance, to help them pay for a portion of it, based upon income. That is paid for in several ways, none of which involves SS, Medicare or the VA, or retired or military..

Give me a break it's paid for in taxes and then those taxed get to wait in line with those who received 'vouchers' in many cases for the same Dr. test. It's nothing more than a massive expansion of medicaid.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

I hope you kick their butts in this lawsuit!

Thanks. Me too, but I doubt it will ever happen. They outlawyer us. People have won rather easily against this, but you have to hang on for the 6-8 years of expensive delay the insurance company lawyers are expert at, until it gets to court. People can't afford that, when they are risking losing their houses to pay for a sudden hospital bill the insurance company was supposed to pay, then decided not to.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Hope you get your wish in getting a saddle horse.

If you come to Lexington you can ride it

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Give me a break it's paid for in taxes and then those taxed get to wait in line with those who received 'vouchers' in many cases for the same Dr. test. It's nothing more than a massive expansion of medicaid.

So .. you don't like sharing a doctor with other people who didn't buy 100% of their own insurance? That's weird.

(the vouchers are for purchasing insurance, not healthcare)

Maybe there are superelite doctors and hospitals that are 100% insurance company or private pay, with no other payment plans, you can go to so you don't catch cooties waiting in line with other patients.

Right now I share doctors and hospitals with other people who have no insurance at all, so I'll be happy when they can finally afford to purchase insurance themselves (with some help) - it will lower my costs.

And I really don't care how other people pay their bills. I mostly worry about mine.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

So .. you don't like sharing a doctor with other people who didn't buy 100% of their own insurance? That's weird.

(the vouchers are for purchasing insurance, not healthcare).

The sharing is fine, the paying for their vouchers is where I have a problem. Not to mention the overcrowding of the entire healthcare system that will have no other choice than to reduce/ration care for everyone and the fraud that will surely accompany this and any other federal 'get well plan' that has ever been devised.

I believe the subsidizing of medical students in return for a certain amount of service in return is a great idea as these new Dr.'s could do internships and residencies at government run hospitals treating government supported patients. This would be constitutional IMO, allow those unable to buy insurance to be treated and no changes would be made to those who are happy with their current care.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Riot

No, Riot doesn't know everything. I just try to discuss stuff here on a more detailed or nuanced level than, "Obama sucks! Illegals suck! Carter sucks! You suck!"

obama's great. republicans suck. democrats rule.

yeah, that's more detailed and nuanced.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by jms62

Yeah Harvard was knocking on your door. LOL ... You are a racistfuk and I hate you with the white-hot intensity of a thousand suns.

altho harvard may not have been knocking on nascar's door, i resent when people say that military people had no other choice. i'm a vet, so is my husband, so is my oldest son. my youngest son is currently in boot camp in great lakes, ill (all of us are navy). he turned down an lsu full ride as he wants to be a pilot (f-35's), and perhaps some day an astronaut. but he may have to settle for nuclear engineer. yeah, he's a dummy. we don't have the best military in the world because only dummies with no other recourse join. i don't know where that started, but i really wish it would stop.

[Rileyoriley]

Originally Posted by Danzig

altho harvard may not have been knocking on nascar's door, i resent when people say that military people had no other choice. i'm a vet, so is my husband, so is my oldest son. my youngest son is currently in boot camp in great lakes, ill (all of us are navy). he turned down an lsu full ride as he wants to be a pilot (f-35's), and perhaps some day an astronaut. but he may have to settle for nuclear engineer. yeah, he's a dummy. we don't have the best military in the world because only dummies with no other recourse join. i don't know where that started, but i really wish it would stop.