Don Imus and Rutgers Women

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by byalip

Yes, and what's your point? That women can't make the cut?

No they can't be members

[Downthestretch55]

Those that were fortunate enough to see the class that the women of the Rutgers basketball team demonstrated at their press conference, the dignity and poise they possess, have seen fine young student atheletes that should serve as positive role models for not only black people, but also women of any color. They gained my respect even more for their intelligence than they had previously for their athletic abilities. Their parents should feel pride in their daughters equal to that which their eloquent coach expressed.

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

Those that were fortunate enough to see the class that the women of the Rutgers basketball team demonstrated at their press conference, the dignity and poise they possess, have seen fine young student atheletes that should serve as positive role models for not only black people, but also women of any color. They gained my respect even more for their intelligence than they had previously for their athletic abilities. Their parents should feel pride in their daughters equal to that which their eloquent coach expressed.

What about invisible women? Racist.

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

What about invisible women? Racist.

What are you talking about?

[byalip]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

No they can't be members

Duh...that's precisely why they can't make the cut.

I found it more than ironic that there was no mention of Martha Burk this year.

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

What about invisible women? Racist.

Thank you for your silence. I didn't know what you were talking about.
Since you were unable to answer, I guess you didn't either.
Interesting me is how some have shown themselves on this thread.
One wants others to have a "thicker skin", but when challenged demonstrates how thin his own is. I call that move a "check-mate".
Then there are the defenders. The bigots also showed up. Pity them also.
Here's an article you might wish to read and comment about.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/10/op...=1&oref=slogin

Oh, right, I expect you to come back and attack me rather than discuss the article I posted. Go ahead...it will be lame, as usual.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

Thank you for your silence. I didn't know what you were talking about.
Since you were unable to answer, I guess you didn't either.
Interesting me is how some have shown themselves on this thread.
One wants others to have a "thicker skin", but when challenged demonstrates how thin his own is. I call that move a "check-mate".
Then there are the defenders. The bigots also showed up. Pity them also.
Here's an article you might wish to read and comment about.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/10/op...=1&oref=slogin

Oh, right, I expect you to come back and attack me rather than discuss the article I posted. Go ahead...it will be lame, as usaual.

On behalf of the bigots, racists, and "thin skinned" people we officially have put this distressing, disturbing, horrific, terrible incident and resulting thread behind us. I'm sure this will be wrong and show us to be shallow or lacking empathy but so be it. I'm sure that you will continue to throw stones down upon us fools from your ivory tower but we just dont have it in us to respond. Forgive our lameness or ability to see your side of an issue.

[Downthestretch55]

Thank you both for your kind thoughts.
I asked for discussion on the article I posted, and yet again....pathetic attacks.
And thank you both for clearly proving my point, yet again.

That article is for nappyheaded hos and I want no part of it.

[GenuineRisk]

I think it's a good editorial, though I wish she would have told Imus to throw out his acid-wash jacket and to put his collars down.

[somerfrost]

Wow...I haven't posted to this thread and have only read the last page of comments...my opinion, since it appears everybody else has weighed in...Imus always seemed like a decent sort, does a lot for charity...his remarks were totally out of line and he will suffer the consequences, as he should. PC is one thing, making those kind of remarks toward young women is another...it amazes me how stupid public figures can be at times, but racism and sexism run deep in this culture and the fact that this thread is this long speaks volumes.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by GPK

for those that need help in becoming a racist, call...

1-888-GPK-ACLU


operators are standing by....

cant i join... mn

[Mortimer]

Yer all mekin' me sick.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

ill now be boycotting msnbc and the parent network nbc,,the rainbow coalition
rev als hairdresser,moo and oink grocery chain and all cheech n chong movies as they show chicanos in a bad light...that should keep me un-offended on both sides..imus is a burnt out old man..who cares..

[saucon17]

Originally Posted by Bababooyee

Also, imagine if a conservative said these things. All you would have heard is "conservatives" this and "conservatives" that.

Thank you for bringing up that point. If it was a conservative, that
person would be crucified to no end. When Imus first started out on
radio I think he was conservative and just recently in the past
couple of years became more liberal each year.

[byalip]

Cannon...why do you assume that people who are outraged at these remarks and find racism/sexism repulsive live in ivory towers?

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

keep hope alive

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Wow...I haven't posted to this thread and have only read the last page of comments...my opinion, since it appears everybody else has weighed in...Imus always seemed like a decent sort, does a lot for charity...his remarks were totally out of line and he will suffer the consequences, as he should. PC is one thing, making those kind of remarks toward young women is another...it amazes me how stupid public figures can be at times, but racism and sexism run deep in this culture and the fact that this thread is this long speaks volumes.

Somer,
Good to see you show up. I agree with your take.
Seems to me that this issue brought something to the surface that has been bubbling under a lid for quite a while. It's much more than Imus, Sharpton, or Jackson. Imus gave it voice. He then groveled for forgiveness to Sharpton.
A big mistake IMHO.
The wonderful atheletes of the Rutgers women's team are the ones he needs to face. He doesn't know them, nor do they him. These fine women, despite their youth and proven scholarship, were attacked, for whatever reason Imus can seek to justify. To me, it's up to them to listen and forgive. They have already shown grace and character.
I also have spoken against racism and sexism. Our culture, our own civilization, can no longer tolerate the hatred that is created by manipulation of voices that seek to perpetuate their misguided (hateful, exclusionist) views.
There IS a time to speak up, as the Rutgers women so ably did.
I respect them far more than I do Imus (and yes, Imus has done many good things, as I noted earlier on this thread). Hateful words only pis-sed on all of his good accomplishments.
Perhaps this entire episode brought something to to the light that needed to be seen. The Rutgers women have every good reason to be proud of themselves. They didn't respond with hate, but rather a willingness to listen and try to seek understanding.
It's quite clear that the times have changed. Racism and sexism will no longer go unchallenged.
Let us all learn from this. Let us find ways to make our children as worthy of the respect and pride that the parents of the Rutgers women must feel.
The alternative is to continue a path of "careful teaching", as in the lyrics of that song from "South Pacific"...you've got to be carefully taught...to hate.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by byalip

Cannon...why do you assume that people who are outraged at these remarks and find racism/sexism repulsive live in ivory towers?

just one....not you




I still have a hard time making this whole thing into a racist/sexist commentary on the state of society. It was a bad joke. Lets just move on. Not moveon.org though

KILL WHITEY!! CAN I GET AN AMEN?