Oden

The guy is a monster.
A little polish required on the offensive end.

He is so mobile, has great timing, monster rebounder. 2 years and he will be beating up most of the centers in the NBA. Shaq will retire. This guy will make it clear to Shaq his best days are gone.

[skippy3481]

Oden had a monster block, but i still say conley makes that team go. He had some absolute mind-boggling passes.

He's not even in the same league as Big Country

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

He's not even in the same league as Big Country

Whatever happened to that guy?? Is he playing in Europe, or living off his failed NBA career. HE was pretty cool however and a great college player.

[ALostTexan]

BUT, the Buckeyes are still in...

ALostTexan
...2003 Graduate, THE Ohio State University...

I am now not so sure about what I have deemed a very good basketball player. I have read some interviews because Ohio State is playing in San Antonio and one very important aspect is coming to the surface. I dont know if this kid really likes basketball. I really dont. Durant lives basketball. He loves the game and wants to know everything about it, everything. Oden does not. The talent is huge. I am questioning the desire now.

This has now become very interesting for me.

[ALostTexan]

I sort of agree that his true passion for the game doesn't seem to be there. I have always wanted him to stay at OSU for another year or two, but I I think he just might need another year or two. His play and drive in the tournament have not been there, and more development on his skills might be what he really needs...

ALostTexan

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Talk about undiscipline...two fouls in the first two minutes???
No way this guy should be going to the NBA after the tournament.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff

Talk about undiscipline...two fouls in the first two minutes???
No way this guy should be going to the NBA after the tournament.

HHH: agree with the not-ready-for-NBA. but one of those fouls(and Hibberds' 1st) were lame and the other Oden just ran him over.

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

HHH: agree with the not-ready-for-NBA. but one of those fouls(and Hibberds' 1st) were lame and the other Oden just ran him over.

True...I thought the refs weren't going to call it that tight early on.
Sometimes wonder if the best "officials" do these big games...

[ALostTexan]

But, he will actually get 5 more fouls, since he will be playing on Monday night....

ALostTexan

Oden is so typical of a great talent, out of focus player. He looks so good, and then so bad. Still would have to take him 1st in the draft. But 82 games, plane flights, distractions with a lot of free time. I dont know with him. Durant would make the transition easily. But Oden... you just dont find 7 foot men with that much athletic talent. He is so strong, he has such quick feet, pretty good touch. I dont see how an NBA team can pass him.

But Oden is not a lock for dominance like Shaq, Duncan, Ewing, Hakeem, Robinson. Those first pick big men had all the teams drooling. Because of his lack of focus, Oden may drool more than the teams. I wish I knew some more about him. He seems like a decent kid, in a Man's body (especially face).

[pmayjr]

Pgard,
You bring up soem great points. He'd be a fool not to come out regardless. When you got the hype-machine on your side, you gotta jump. Same for Durant. With all of the media scrutiny out there, just imagine how bad a minor knee injury could be for either him or Durant if they go back to school next year.

As for Oden's game at the next level, I think it'll start out a lot like Dwight Hoard or Chris Bosh. He'll board and block a lot, but the scoring won't be there right away. That will come down the road, maybe like 2-3 seasons into it.

One other point- If Mike Conley Jr. has a big game in the national title, don't be surprised if he jumps to the NBA too. It would take a huge effort, beut he's capable of it.

Originally Posted by pmayjr

Pgard,
One other point- If Mike Conley Jr. has a big game in the national title, don't be surprised if he jumps to the NBA too. It would take a huge effort, beut he's capable of it.

Point Guard is the toughest transition of any position. He should stay and learn more. The tools are there. But running an NBA team is an awesome responsibility. And I think point guard is a very easy position to become a flop.
It is so totally different. I remember Jameer Nelson having a very difficult time, and he was much more mature. Now he has made it. Some others not so lucky... Telefair (sp?) for Boston. Right out of High School at the point. Miserable year. I question if he can regain confidence. He will talk like he has all the confidence in the world. Playing is a whole diff. ball of wax.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by pmayjr

Pgard,


As for Oden's game at the next level, I think it'll start out a lot like Dwight Hoard or Chris Bosh. He'll board and block a lot, but the scoring won't be there right away. That will come down the road, maybe like 2-3 seasons into it.

Good analogy. One thing is that he seems to lack fire. He is very even keeled which may wind up being a positive in the long run. Sometimes it seems like he turns it on for a bit but then he goes back to sleep. He is still pretty raw and I dont expect him to be a top NBA player for a few seasons. He will be better off going to an eastern conf team where he does not have to be matched up against top center much.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Point Guard is the toughest transition of any position. He should stay and learn more. The tools are there. But running an NBA team is an awesome responsibility. And I think point guard is a very easy position to become a flop.
It is so totally different. I remember Jameer Nelson having a very difficult time, and he was much more mature. Now he has made it. Some others not so lucky... Telefair (sp?) for Boston. Right out of High School at the point. Miserable year. I question if he can regain confidence. He will talk like he has all the confidence in the world. Playing is a whole diff. ball of wax.

Very true and a point guard needs to have the respect of his team before he can suceed. How many point guards came into the NBA and made an immediate impact? Look at Chauncey Billips. Took him awhile too.