DT Contest - Week 14

[DerbyCat]

A GREAT weekend of racing is ahead of us and we’ve got quite a few races to play. I may still add a race, just need to see what the draws are later today. I’ll get PP’s up as soon as I can (or if I’m lucky, Saucon17 or Miraja2 may find them and post them before I do ). Good luck to all of you this weekend!


AQUEDUCT: Bay Shore Stakes (Grade III)
RACE # 7 DISTANCE: 7 FURLONGS
PP’S: (send your e-mail address via PM to DerbyCat and I'll email the entire cards PP's to you)
Prg. # PP Horse Jockey Trainer Wt. Med. ML
1 4 Les Grands Trois Flores D R Frankel Robert 116 L 1-1
1A 5 In the Woods Flores D R Frankel Robert 116 L 1-1
2 1 Pass the Punch Velazquez J R McLaughlin Kiaran P 116 L 12-1
3 2 Indian Camp Hill C Englehart Chris 116 L 15-1
4 3 Hobbitontherocks Garcia Alan Preciado Ramon 116 L 6-1
5 6 Bill Place Velasquez C Dutrow Anthony W 120 L 3-1
6 7 Wollaston Bay Talamo J Sciacca Gary 120 L 7-2


AQUEDUCT: Wood Memorial (Grade I)
RACE # 8 DISTANCE: 1 1/8 MILES
Bris PP’S: http://www.brisnet.com/bris_link/pdf...cher_71192.pdf
Prg. # PP Horse Jockey Trainer Wt. Equip. Med. ML
1 4 Cowtown Cat Jara F Pletcher Todd A 123 L 8-5
1A 6 Any Given Saturday Velazquez J R Pletcher Todd A 123 L 8-5
2 1 Nobiz Like Shobiz Velasquez C Tagg Barclay 123 Blk-On L 7-5
3 2 Sightseeing Castellano J J McGaughey III C R 123 L 6-1
4 3 Flashstorm Jacinto J Lukas D Wayne 123 L 15-1
5 5 Summer Doldrums Luzzi M J Violette, Jr. R A 123 L 5-1
6 7 Reptilian Smarts Flores D R Ritvo Timothy 123 L 15-1


KEENELAND: Lafayette Stakes
RACE # 8 DISTANCE: 7 FURLONGS (ALL WEATHER TRACK)
Bris PP's: http://www.brisnet.com/bris_link/pdf...cher_71097.pdf
Prg. # Horse Jockey Trainer Wt. Equip. Med. ML
1 Izzie's Halo Albarado R J Amoss Thomas 117 L 3-1
2 Ollie Jet Theriot H J II Stewart Dallas 117 L 15-1
3 Silver Express Douglas R R Zito Nicholas P 117 Blk-Off L 6-1
4 Storm Force Bridgmohan S X Lukas D Wayne 117 L 20-1
5 Don'tgetmadgeteven Troilo W D McGee Paul J 117 L 20-1
6 Place Your Bet Quinonez A Lake Scott A 117 L 10-1
7 Call Me Clash Rose J Lake Scott A 119 L 8-1
8 Out of Gwedda Gomez G K Pletcher Todd A 119 L 5-2
9 Carnacks Choice Leparoux J R Foley Gregory D 119 L 8-1
10 Prom Shoes Bejarano R Fires William H 117 L 10-1
11 Barkley Sound Graham J Scott Joan 119 L 15-1


HAWTHORNE: 50th Running of the Illinois Derby (Grade II)
Race # 7 Distance: 1 1/8 Miles
PP’s: http://www.hawthorneracecourse.com/f...gradeii-pp.pdf
Prg. # Horse Jockey Trainer Wt. Equip. Med. ML
1 Sacrifice Bunt Campbell J M Mott William I 122 L 12-1
2 Bold Start Melancon L McPeek Kenneth G 122 L 9-2
3 Reporting for Duty Emigh C A Asmussen Steven M 122 L 15-1
4 Cowtown Cat Jara F Pletcher Todd A 122 L 5-2
5 Cobalt Blue Espinoza V O'Neill Doug 122 L 9-5
6 Quite Acceptable Zimmerman R Ritter Shannon 122 L 20-1
7 Catman Running Martinez W Reed Eric R 122 L 8-1
8 Family Talk Thompson T J O'Neill Doug 122 L 20-1
9 Love Dubai Mena M Maker Michael J 122 Blk-On 15-1


Santa Anita: Santa Anita Derby (Grade I)
RACE # 6 DISTANCE: 1 1/8 MILES
Bris PP's: http://www.brisnet.com/bris_link/pdf...cher_71196.pdf
DRF PP's: http://www.drf.com/row/pps/07santaanitaderby.pdf
Post # Horse Jockey Weight Equip. Med.
1 Court the King Valdivia J Jr 122 L
2 Sam P. Dominguez R A 122 Blk-On L
3 Bwana Bull Baze R A 122 L
4 Boutrous Desormeaux K J 122 Blk-On L
5 Liquidity Nakatani C S 122 L
6 Black Seventeen Potts C L 122 L
7 Level Red Gryder A T 122 Blk-On L
8 King of the Roxy Migliore R 122 L
9 Tiago Smith M E 122 Blk-Off L
10 Medici Code (GB) Chavez J F 122

[saucon17]

Here is your wish DC


Wood

http://www.brisnet.com/bris_link/pdf...cher_71192.pdf

Lafayette

http://www.brisnet.com/bris_link/pdf...cher_71097.pdf

SA Derby

http://www.brisnet.com/bris_link/pdf...cher_71196.pdf

[DerbyCat]

Originally Posted by saucon17

Here is your wish DC

Thanks for being my wingman!

[2 Dollar Bill]

Leaving for New Haven tomorrow am, so let me get these in
Bayshore . Pass the punch ..... (hobbtontherocks)
Wood.......Nobiz Like Shobiz .... (Any given sunday )
Lafayette.. Izzie's Honor ......... (Cal me Clash)
Illinois Derby.. Cobalt Blue ........... (Cowtown cat )
Santa Anita....Liquidity ;;;;;; ( King of the roxy )
Alternates in ( )

Good luck everyone

[miraja2]

Bay Shore - Wollaston Bay (alt: Bill Place)
Wood Memorial - Nobiz like Showbiz (alt: Summer Doldrums)
Lafayette - Barkley Sound (alt: Place Your Bet)
Illinois Derby - Catman Running (alt: Cobalt Blue)
Santa Anita Derby - Sam P (alt: Bwana Bull)

[AngelSita]

Bay Shore: Wollaston Bay (Alt. Indian Camp)
Wood Memorial: Nobiz Like Shobiz (Alt. Any Given Saturday)
Lafayette: Barkley Sound (Alt. Izzie's Halo)
Illinois Derby: Cobalt Blue (Alt. Catman Running)
Santa Anita Derby: Sam P (Alt. King of the Roxy)

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by AngelSita

Bay Shore: Wollaston Bay (Alt. Indian Camp)
Wood Memorial: Nobiz Like Shobiz (Alt. Any Given Saturday)
Lafayette: Barkley Sound (Alt. Izzie's Halo)
Illinois Derby: Cobalt Blue (Alt. Catman Running)
Santa Anita Derby: Sam P (Alt. King of the Roxy)

This is about 10 weeks in a row where you pick all of the horses that I do except one. What gives? Is this some sort of weird strategy on your part? If it is, I don't really mind, but I am a bit curious about the logic behind it.
Perhaps this is all just a coincidence, but it seems pretty odd.

[Buffymommy]

Originally Posted by miraja2

This is about 10 weeks in a row where you pick all of the horses that I do except one. What gives? Is this some sort of weird strategy on your part? If it is, I don't really mind, but I am a bit curious about the logic behind it.
Perhaps this is all just a coincidence, but it seems pretty odd.

I like a lot of the same horses this week too. But I do think some of your alts will be my picks and your picks will be my alts. I haven't finished looking at all the races yet though. But I do like your Wood picks.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Buffymommy

I like a lot of the same horses this week too. But I do think some of your alts will be my picks and your picks will be my alts. I haven't finished looking at all the races yet though. But I do like your Wood picks.

When you and I pick the same horses, I just chalk it up to brilliant minds thinking alike!!
But this AngelSita person will continually do the same thing week after week. If there are four races they will pick 3 of my 4. If there are three they will pick 2 of 3. This week it was 4 out 5. Even when I make off-the-wall picks like Barkley Sound!!
Like I said, maybe it is just a coincidence, (I honestly can't think of any reason that somone would even care who I liked in a race) and I don't really mind either way, but it happens every week, so I am a bit curious.

[jman5581]

Bill Place (ITW)
Any Given Saturday (Nobiz)
Izzie's Halo (Carnack)
Cobalt Blue (Catman)
Sam P (Liquidity)

[paisjpq]

Bayshore...Les Grand Trois...alt. Wollaston Bay
Wood...Summer doldrums...alt. AGS
Lafayette...Prom Shoes...alt. Call me Clash
Illinois...Bold Start...Catman Running
SA Derby...Sam P...Boutrous.

[Mortimer]

Bayshore...Les Grand Trois...alt. Wollaston Bay

ror!


Wood...Summer doldrums...alt. AGS

double ror!!



Lafayette...Prom Shoes...alt. Call me Clash

GOO-FOO!!


Illinois...Bold Start...Catman Running

Yer killin' me ovah heah!!



SA Derby...Sam P...Boutrous.


thud

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by mortimerdexterfoxworthy

Bayshore...Les Grand Trois...alt. Wollaston Bay
ror!
Wood...Summer doldrums...alt. AGS
double ror!!
Lafayette...Prom Shoes...alt. Call me Clash
GOO-FOO!!
Illinois...Bold Start...Catman Running
Yer killin' me ovah heah!!
SA Derby...Sam P...Boutrous.
thud

bite me, sweetheart...

[AngelSita]

Originally Posted by miraja2

When you and I pick the same horses, I just chalk it up to brilliant minds thinking alike!!
But this AngelSita person will continually do the same thing week after week. If there are four races they will pick 3 of my 4. If there are three they will pick 2 of 3. This week it was 4 out 5. Even when I make off-the-wall picks like Barkley Sound!!
Like I said, maybe it is just a coincidence, (I honestly can't think of any reason that somone would even care who I liked in a race) and I don't really mind either way, but it happens every week, so I am a bit curious.

Well, that bites. Here I was surprised and kind of happy that somebody else liked Barkley Sound. Off-the-wall pick? So you don't really the horse has a chance? Actually, I happen to like Barkley Sound. Well, and the fact that him and Izzie's Halo are the only two horses I know anything about in this race.

No, I don't have some off-the-wall strategy to pick the same horses as you. But I have noticed that and there have been a few times where I thought about not picking certain horses because of that. Of course, that doesn't happen because, well, darn it, I should be able to pick the horses that I like. And that is my strategy - pick horses I like even if it's not the smartest pick.

[Sightseek]

Bayshore - Les Grands Trois (Hobbitontherocks)
Wood - Anygivensaturday (Nobiz)
Lafayette - Carnacks Choice (Prom Shoes)
Illinois - Cobalt Blue (Bold Start)
S.A. Derby - Sam P (Level Red)

[timmgirvan]

Bayshore--BILLPLACE(alt-WOLL BAY) Wood--SUMMER DOLDRUMS(alt-NOBIZ) Laffayette--CALL ME CLASH(alt-IZZIES HALO) Ill. Derby--CATMAN RUNNING(alt-REPORTING FOR DUTY) SA Derby-SAM P (alt-LIQUIDITY)

[DerbyCat]

Originally Posted by miraja2

But this AngelSita person will continually do the same thing week after week. If there are four races they will pick 3 of my 4. If there are three they will pick 2 of 3. This week it was 4 out 5. Even when I make off-the-wall picks like Barkley Sound!!
Like I said, maybe it is just a coincidence, (I honestly can't think of any reason that somone would even care who I liked in a race) and I don't really mind either way, but it happens every week, so I am a bit curious.

I did a quick analysis of picks since AngelSita started playing (Since last week - not counting this weeks picks - you both have played 31 of the same races) and here are the results:

You had the SAME picks in ten (10) races and you both were ITM
You both LOST $ ($0 balance) in eight (8) races (I don't know who you picked, just know you had a $0 return)
You had DIFFERENT top picks in thirteen (13) races, of those 13, AngelSita won more $ in eight (8) races and you won more $ in five (5) of the races.

Just an analysis... and don't get mad at me if I copy you, too... you're in the lead Man!!!

Some people want to "Be Like Mike"... I want to "Be Like Sean"!!!!

[DerbyCat]

Originally Posted by mortimerdexterfoxworthy

Bayshore...Les Grand Trois...alt. Wollaston Bay
ror!
Wood...Summer doldrums...alt. AGS
double ror!!
Lafayette...Prom Shoes...alt. Call me Clash
GOO-FOO!!
Illinois...Bold Start...Catman Running
Yer killin' me ovah heah!!
SA Derby...Sam P...Boutrous.
thud

So, are these your pick too Morty?

You're more than welcome to play in our contest but I've got to warn you, people get upset if you copy their picks around here

[nwaryas]

Bay Shore- Hobbitontherocks- Pass the Punch
Wood Memorial- Any Given Saturday - Nobiz Like Shobiz
Lafayette- Out of Gwedda- Silver Express
Illinois Derby- Catman Running- Reporting for Duty
Santa Anita Derby- King of the Roxy- Liquidity

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by AngelSita

Well, that bites. Here I was surprised and kind of happy that somebody else liked Barkley Sound. Off-the-wall pick? So you don't really the horse has a chance? Actually, I happen to like Barkley Sound. Well, and the fact that him and Izzie's Halo are the only two horses I know anything about in this race.

No, I don't have some off-the-wall strategy to pick the same horses as you. But I have noticed that and there have been a few times where I thought about not picking certain horses because of that. Of course, that doesn't happen because, well, darn it, I should be able to pick the horses that I like. And that is my strategy - pick horses I like even if it's not the smartest pick.

No worries. It was just something I noticed over the past 5 weeks or so. That it was ALWAYS all the same except one. I tried to get across in my first posts that it was NOT something I was mad about it....just curious. I didn't know if it was some strategy on your part, or if we just have really similar handicapping styles. NOW I know that you also employ the always effective eeny, meeny, miny, moe handicapping plan!!
As for Barkley Sound, I do think he has a decent shot in here, but I think I made the mistake of "M/L betting" him. At 15/1 he is a value. But because of his little win streak the past few races I am afraid he will get bet down to the 7/1 range.....and I don't like him at that price at all. I found the Lafayette to be an extremely difficult race to analyze.
Good luck this week.