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Old 05-31-2007, 07:33 PM
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Has there been a falling out with these two?Jara was supposed to be the go to guy,but lately,I see Alan Garcia getting most of the mounts,and Johnny V the rest.Anybody know what happened?
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Old 05-31-2007, 08:00 PM
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Has there been a falling out with these two?Jara was supposed to be the go to guy,but lately,I see Alan Garcia getting most of the mounts,and Johnny V the rest.Anybody know what happened?
cuz garcia can ride any horse not just the best horse..imo
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Old 06-01-2007, 10:06 AM
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Jara has a new agent.
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Old 06-01-2007, 10:39 AM
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Garcia rode pretty well for McLaughlin over the winter and I think Kiaran realized that he is a very underrated rider. He seems to be very adept at getting horses into a good spot and he is a terrific finisher. Great addition to the colony in lieu of guys like Mike Smith and S. Bridgmohan.

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Old 06-01-2007, 10:41 AM
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Garcia rode pretty well for McLaughlin over the winter and I think Kiaran realized that he is a very underrated rider. He seems to be very adept at getting horses into a good spot and he is a terrific finisher. Great addition to the colony in lieu of guys like Mike Smith and S. Bridgmohan.

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I agree.I like him way more than Jara.
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Old 06-01-2007, 11:35 AM
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With that enormous helmet he wears he looks like an alien.

Who was the guy on " The Flintstones "......Kazoo?
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Old 06-01-2007, 11:38 AM
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With that enormous helmet he wears he looks like an alien.

Who was the guy on " The Flintstones "......Kazoo?
I hadn't noticed Garcia's helmet...I'll have to take a look.

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Old 06-01-2007, 11:45 AM
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With that enormous helmet he wears he looks like an alien.

Who was the guy on " The Flintstones "......Kazoo?
**** thats funny
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Old 06-01-2007, 12:00 PM
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Old 06-01-2007, 02:35 PM
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I see the two former lovebirds are reuniting in 6th today. Hello Newman droping Msw/Mcl.

Although Garcia rides for Contessa making similar move. Probably use both to kick off pick4.

Andy - Also see GCP is back in nightcap. Maybe finally his day?
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Old 06-01-2007, 07:17 PM
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With that enormous helmet he wears he looks like an alien.

Who was the guy on " The Flintstones "......Kazoo?
I think it was "The Great Gazoo"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Gazoo
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Old 06-01-2007, 08:02 PM
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I got sucked in a bit on Jara last year. Then I saw him get outridden every day at Gulfstream by people like Elvis Trujillo and Rosemary Homeister.
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With that enormous helmet he wears he looks like an alien.

Who was the guy on " The Flintstones "......Kazoo?

I think kazoo was on "The Jetson's"
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I think kazoo was on "The Jetson's"
he was on both...
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Old 06-01-2007, 08:29 PM
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he was on both...
And now he's riding at Belmont.
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Old 06-01-2007, 08:35 PM
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Ridiculous
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Old 06-01-2007, 08:40 PM
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Garcia rode pretty well for McLaughlin over the winter and I think Kiaran realized that he is a very underrated rider. He seems to be very adept at getting horses into a good spot and he is a terrific finisher. Great addition to the colony in lieu of guys like Mike Smith and S. Bridgmohan.

NT
Yeah

He's got that stay-inside-entering-the-stretch-and-pray-for-room-rather-than bouncing-out-immediately-and-then-eventually-have-to-bounce-out-cause- nothing-opened-up-and-finish-FULL-of-RUN-with-what-was-probably-the-best-horse

move down to perfection. Cause, he practices it almost every day on the turf at Belmont.
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Old 06-01-2007, 11:48 PM
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Jara has talent. He has ability. Part of that is that he is stone-cold cool -- ice running through his veins. That doesn't help always when riding day to day, racehorses, green horses, horses that aren't placed well, etc. He is a guy who can "ride great" but is not yet near the "great rider" plateau.

Now, with that in mind, McLaughlin didn't have a great deal of power at every meet. He has superstars, but his barn is diverse. Garcia's agent worked very hard to get him into a spot in that barn, along with Contessa, and for certain owners as well. What hurt Jara is when he and Randy Romero split. That was not a change in agent move -- that was a political move. Gatewood Bell did not have experience as an agent -- other than assisting Randy -- and not as an agent for a rider who was at a very crucial point. There is a very complex dynamic here. Watch what happens to any jock who gets "caught" -- coming back from an injury, not having regular go-to business and mounts, etc. Even in accomplishing what he accomplished, look at the stats of the horses Jara rode on a day to day basis. Gatewood Bell couldn't even get Jara mounts as of late.

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Old 06-02-2007, 12:26 AM
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Do you really think Jara can ride "great"? What am I missing? I agree the agent change hurt some business, but it shouldn't have hurt much McLaughlin business as Bell is the relative of someone high up at Darley.
I think there is a huge difference between someone who can ride great -- on occasion, on an isolated basis, etc. and someone who is a great rider. I've seen Jara ride great, and more importantly he has talent. The agent change did hurt -- and hurt huge both inside and outside McLaughlin. Gatewood being Jimmy's son would, for all intents and purposes, be irrelevant outside McLaughlin's barn. My point is that McLaughlin didn't have the kind of barn that could -- in and of itself -- make, support, etc. Jara. Not every owner would let McLaughling make the call and use Jara. Not every owner, making the call, would use Jara.

I don't think the stats tell the whole story, both positive and negative.

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Old 06-02-2007, 12:33 AM
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BTW, regarding Jara, let's not forget he is very much in the infancy of his career. He still doesn't have the experience of riding in, say, 5000 races or so and seeing, feeling, experiencing the everyday, horse in and horse out nuances that eventually need to be second nature. That is just one aspect that shows or reveals talent and ability. Often it's hidden to the non-expert eye.

I noticed him early on -- when Chocolate brought him here. But I really started watching him very closely when I heard certain people -- people who anyone would truly consider an expert -- make some pretty bold statements about him, his talent, ability, etc.

Hopefully one day we will see the talent and ability blossom and flourish.

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