nba finals

[gales0678]

Somehow someway Lebron and his younger teammates will find a way.
SA got a cheap win against Phoenix in Game 5 of that all important series. Out of the teams in the west Dallas, Phx , or SA , I think if you ask the cavs coach he would much rather play SA - Dallas and Phoenix can score in bunches very quickly - SA while a more complete team doesn't score as much as Dallas and Phx and it would be harder for the Cavs to outscore those teams.

Lebron will need help each game , but, 1 guy will have to step up each night.
I think they can do it , i think they will win 1 of the first 2 games in SA, lose 1 game in Clevland , and then win it back in SA in game 6.

I would like to see the Spurs play an elmination game this year against LeBron and see how they fare

Take Clev to win series in 6.
Take them with the points in game 1 and game 2 in SA to start out

[The Bid]

I think Cleveland with the points is a real good play in game one

[alysheba4]

spurs in 4

[Scav]

Originally Posted by gales0678

Somehow someway Lebron and his younger teammates will find a way.
SA got a cheap win against Phoenix in Game 5 of that all important series. Out of the teams in the west Dallas, Phx , or SA , I think if you ask the cavs coach he would much rather play SA - Dallas and Phoenix can score in bunches very quickly - SA while a more complete team doesn't score as much as Dallas and Phx and it would be harder for the Cavs to outscore those teams.

Lebron will need help each game , but, 1 guy will have to step up each night.
I think they can do it , i think they will win 1 of the first 2 games in SA, lose 1 game in Clevland , and then win it back in SA in game 6.

I would like to see the Spurs play an elmination game this year against LeBron and see how they fare

Take Clev to win series in 6.
Take them with the points in game 1 and game 2 in SA to start out

Disagree my friend. I don't see SA losing this series. Lebron, who is absolutley amazing, might have big eyes the first two games of the series. 90% of attention on him. While I think he can carry it, just not this early, might be a couple years since the Bulls are going to win it all next year when they figure out a way to get Oden......

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by Scav

Disagree my friend. I don't see SA losing this series. Lebron, who is absolutley amazing, might have big eyes the first two games of the series. 90% of attention on him. While I think he can carry it, just not this early, might be a couple years since the Bulls are going to win it all next year when they figure out a way to get Oden......

... and figure out how to make all their guards grow 3 inches before next season...

[Scav]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

... and figure out how to make all their guards grow 3 inches before next season...

I get the feeling there is some sort of trade going on, not sure if the trigger will get pulled. Bulls will have a hard time keeping Gordan and Deng, and Deng's value is at an all time high, I also think they would trade Wallace given the opportunity, he taught these kids alot about defensive and attitude, not really needed now with the emergence of Springboard Thomas

Originally Posted by gales0678

Somehow someway Lebron and his younger teammates will find a way.
SA got a cheap win against Phoenix in Game 5 of that all important series. Out of the teams in the west Dallas, Phx , or SA , I think if you ask the cavs coach he would much rather play SA - Dallas and Phoenix can score in bunches very quickly - SA while a more complete team doesn't score as much as Dallas and Phx and it would be harder for the Cavs to outscore those teams.

Lebron will need help each game , but, 1 guy will have to step up each night.
I think they can do it , i think they will win 1 of the first 2 games in SA, lose 1 game in Clevland , and then win it back in SA in game 6.

I would like to see the Spurs play an elmination game this year against LeBron and see how they fare

Take Clev to win series in 6.
Take them with the points in game 1 and game 2 in SA to start out

Whoa with the cheap wins. Cleveland played Washington without their best two players. And people where picking Denver first round against the Spurs because of Iverson/Mello and 12 out of the last 13 were wins. If Cleveland had played in the West they would not have advanced to the finals. No way.

[SentToStud]

Most likely, in order:

1. SA in 5
2. Cleve in 6
3. SA in 7

I'll wait and if SA goes up 2-0, I'll dump on Cleve in game 3. Cleve is a bit tempting at around +475 for the series. No way I'd lay -500 and take SA.

[alysheba4]

the east was beyond bad........cleveland might be the worst team in the history of the n.b.a finals.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Whoa with the cheap wins. Cleveland played Washington without their best two players. And people where picking Denver first round against the Spurs because of Iverson/Mello and 12 out of the last 13 were wins. If Cleveland had played in the West they would not have advanced to the finals. No way.

Dallas and Phoenix were both huge favorites and tanked. West teams, including SA are softer than East conference teams. No doubt about that. Utah? Give me a break! You conveniently left out that Detroit was at full strength and Cleveland dominated with their arguably second best player playing with one foot. Detroit was lucky to get what they got.

James is going to wipe the floor with Bowen's ass just like Carmelo Anthony does every time SA plays Denver. He's just not strong enough.

Spurs should win, maybe even in 5 games, but the line is way too high on the series.

Originally Posted by SentToStud

Dallas and Phoenix were both huge favorites and tanked. West teams, including SA are softer than East conference teams. No doubt about that. Utah? Give me a break! You conveniently left out that Detroit was at full strength and Cleveland dominated with their arguably second best player playing with one foot. Detroit was lucky to get what they got.

James is going to wipe the floor with Bowen's ass just like Carmelo Anthony does every time SA plays Denver. He's just not strong enough.

Spurs should win, maybe even in 5 games, but the line is way too high on the series.

Washington... tough!!! Lord help me.
Detroit flat out imploded.

No way Cleveland would have made it to the Western conference finals. In fact they probably would have real difficulty with Denver first round and be out early as ever.

Bowen gets scored on by everyone because he is the only guy who covers the best player on almost every team the Spurs play. But he tires them down by the end of a series. It has happened in the first 3 series.

Bowen is the most versatile defender in the league. Name a player that will do better on Nash, Mello, Iverson, and Lebron?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by alysheba4

the east was beyond bad........cleveland might be the worst team in the history of the n.b.a finals.

While I agree the East was not strong and despite Morty's pleas to the contrary, LeBron's supporting cast is historically weak there are much worse teams that have been in the NBA finals. The worst of NBA final teams in modern times (post 1960) would easily be the 70-71 Baltimore Bullets. The Bullets who later became the Washington Bullets who became the Wizards, were 42-40 that year. They were absolutely taken apart in the Finals by the Bucks led by Kareem and Oscar 4-0. The closest any game that series was 8 points and most were 20 point or worse losses. The 75-76 Suns were also 42-40 in the regular season. They are famous for the triple OT game against Boston but they really were not very good. The 80-81 Houston Rockets were 40-42 in the regular season despite the presence of league MVP Moses Malone. Outside of Robert Reid the rest of the team was over the hill guys and bums. They somehow won 2 games against Boston in the Finals which shows the greatness of Malone.

Originally Posted by Bababooyee

Artest

With 8 fouls per game. Maybe.

Great defender, but his head deletes the talent.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Bababooyee

Artest

Is he still in the league?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Washington... tough!!! Lord help me.
Detroit flat out imploded.

No way Cleveland would have made it to the Western conference finals. In fact they probably would have real difficulty with Denver first round and be out early as ever.

Bowen gets scored on by everyone because he is the only guy who covers the best player on almost every team the Spurs play. But he tires them down by the end of a series. It has happened in the first 3 series.

Bowen is the most versatile defender in the league. Name a player that will do better on Nash, Mello, Iverson, and Lebron?

He will be in foul trouble early, count on it.

[alysheba4]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

While I agree the East was not strong and despite Morty's pleas to the contrary, LeBron's supporting cast is historically weak there are much worse teams that have been in the NBA finals. The worst of NBA final teams in modern times (post 1960) would easily be the 70-71 Baltimore Bullets. The Bullets who later became the Washington Bullets who became the Wizards, were 42-40 that year. They were absolutely taken apart in the Finals by the Bucks led by Kareem and Oscar 4-0. The closest any game that series was 8 points and most were 20 point or worse losses. The 75-76 Suns were also 42-40 in the regular season. They are famous for the triple OT game against Boston but they really were not very good. The 80-81 Houston Rockets were 40-42 in the regular season despite the presence of league MVP Moses Malone. Outside of Robert Reid the rest of the team was over the hill guys and bums. They somehow won 2 games against Boston in the Finals which shows the greatness of Malone.

.......good work, i was exagerating about cleveland...... yeah, malone was a monster. he used to flat out abuse jabbar.

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

He will be in foul trouble early, count on it.

It really depends on the refs and Bowen.

The refs watch him super close and Bowen lays off... no.
I think Bowen is really good at pushing the envelope on this and reading the refs calls thereby interpreting what type of game he needs to play.

Lebron will do as he pleases. Bowen will have to adjust. The refs have probably talked about how they will call this matchup extensively. I look for Bowen to flop early on a drive in San Antonio to test the waters. Guaranteed Bowen already knows exactly when he will flop. He has probably watched every Lebron drive and looked for the times when he ducked his shoulders with his head away from the basket or looking down.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by pgardn

It really depends on the refs and Bowen.

The refs watch him super close and Bowen lays off... no.
I think Bowen is really good at pushing the envelope on this and reading the refs calls thereby interpreting what type of game he needs to play.

Lebron will do as he pleases. Bowen will have to adjust. The refs have probably talked about how they will call this matchup extensively. I look for Bowen to flop early on a drive in San Antonio to test the waters. Guaranteed Bowen already knows exactly when he will flop. He has probably watched every Lebron drive and looked for the times when he ducked his shoulders with his head away from the basket or looking down.

The refs have been more visible this year. I look for Pops to use bowen mostly on Lebron,but switch off the speedy Parker and tough Ginobli to bother Lebron! Heck...let him get his 30...Spurs can shut down the rest!

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

The refs have been more visible this year. I look for Pops to use bowen mostly on Lebron,but switch off the speedy Parker and tough Ginobli to bother Lebron! Heck...let him get his 30...Spurs can shut down the rest!

Definitely will see more of Parker and Ginobili later in the series. Especially after Lebron rebounds and brings the ball up himself. Lebron will probably have Duncan posterized a couple of times also. He already has one great picture... Duncan cant jump. Just cant let Lebron get up a head of steam early. Thats when he gets really tough.

Kinda of like trying to hit a good runningback behind the line of scrimmage.
I am still amazed. 6' 8" 240 lbs of pure athlete. As strong as any forward in the league and now attempting to become Kobe from the outside. The kid is really amazing. A physical freak. That muscular playing bball at his age.
I look back and feel sorry for T. Prince.

I found a huge finger nail biting flaw in his off court game.