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08-06-2007, 07:46 PM
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Prix Jacques Le Marois
from post again. Come on Manduro!!
MANDURO, the world's top turf performer based on Racing Post Ratings, is on course to clash with Prix du Jockey Club winner Lawman in Sunday's Prix Jacques Le Marois. The five-year-old charged to the head of the global turf rankings by posting a 131 RPR when winning the Prince of Wales's Stakes at Royal Ascot in June. Following earlier victories this season, in the Earl of Sefton Stakes and Prix d'Ispahan, Manduro is set to defend an unbeaten 2007 record at Deauville this weekend. Owner Baron Georg von Ullmann's racing manager Paul Harley said on Sunday that Manduro is "well", and that "Andre Fabre is very pleased with him". Unlike Manduro, three-year-old Lawman is already a Group 1 winner at the Prix Jacques Le Marois distance of 1m, having landed last month's Prix Jean Prat at Chantilly, to follow up his French Derby triumph. His trainer Jean-Marie Beguigne said on Sunday: "All has gone well with him since the Jean Prat, and he has remained at Chantilly, where he'll work on Tuesday as his final preparation for the Jacques Le Marois." The Princess Zahra Aga Khan's Darjina is unlikely to take on Manduro and Lawman, with trainer Alain de Royer-Dupre saying: "We are now looking at races like the Prix du Moulin or Matron Stakes at Leopardstown the previous day." The Moulin at Longchamp on November 9 is also a possibility for BGC Sussex Stakes runner-up Excellent Art, Aidan O'Brien has revealed. The trainer blamed a lack of experience for the colt's narrow defeat at the hands of Ramonti at Goodwood last Wednesday. O'Brien said: "He has come out of the race fine, but was caught out by inexperience. He has never had such a competitive race on a track like that before. "The winner got acouple of lengths on him and then the line came too quick, but I have no doubt that he will leave that run behind." He added: "Definite plans have yet to be decided but we will look at the Moulin and Queen Elizabeth II Stakes."
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08-07-2007, 06:12 PM
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Should be interesting. How do you think Manduro will cope with the drop in trip?
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08-08-2007, 04:58 AM
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He doesn't look like the sort of horse that will relish a drop back to a mile, but at the same time, i think he could perform just as well as long as there is a good pace on, so he can just track the leaders. Lawman will be a tough nut to crack though, i think he is very good, also.
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08-09-2007, 06:12 AM
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by Rodney Masters
. ANDRE FABRE on Wednesday pre-empted any doubters who may question the wisdom of returning his stunning Royal Ascot winner Manduro to a mile for Sunday's Prix Jacques le Marois after defeats in all three runs at the trip since joining the trainer. Having triumphed spectacularly in the ‘race of the season' when overwhelming the subsequent winners of the King George and Eclipse in Royal Ascot's Prince Of Wales's Stakes over 1m2f, Manduro was acclaimed by Racing Post Racings as the best turf horse in the world. Fabre, asked on Wednesday if he considered the five-year-old can be as commanding over the shorter trip at Deauville, said: “Manduro was very unlucky in his three runs over a mile for us last year; nothing went right for him on those occasions. With a little more luck he would have won. He has the speed to win at a mile.” Fabre, who took over the colt from Peter Schiergen after his two-year-old season, added: “I'm very pleased with his work. While some people may say he has improved this year, I'm not sure that is the case; the fact is he hasn't been an unlucky horse this season.” Manduro's three consecutive defeats over a mile included last year's Jacques le Marois, when overnight rain turned ground conditions testing, and the colt finished best of all to get within a neck of Librettist. He met with even greater misfortune when given too much to do in the Prix Messidor and then finding himself boxed in during the Prix de Moulin. France's long-standing champion trainer said he had noted the subsequent wins of the placed horses at Royal Ascot, with Dylan Thomas following up in the King George and Notnowcato doing likewise in the Coral-Eclipse. “A very good race,” he remarked. After Wednesday'sforfeit, ten contenders remained in the Marois, including Manduro's two most serious threats, French Derby winner Lawman and Stormy River, but there are doubts about the participation of several of the others. French 1,000 Guineas winner Darjina is expected to be an absentee, connections preferring the option of the Prix du Moulin or Matron Stakes. Her old rival Finsceal Beo was left in by Jim Bolger, who is expected to make a decision on Thursday morning between that race at the Royal Whip Styakes at The Curragh on Sunday. Godolphin has left in Dubai Millennium's son Echo Of Light, and racing manager Simon Crisford said on Wednesday: “We're just having a look, and there is no decision until tomorrow.” However, Turtle Bowl, beaten two short heads by Ramonti and Jeremy in the Queen Anne Stakes at Royal Ascot, was confirmed a runner by Francois Rohaut. Rohaut said on Wednesday: “He had a nice holiday after the Queen Anne at Royal Ascot and it did him good. He has been at Deauville for 15 days, and has been working well.” There was no jockey booked on Wednesday night for Turtle Bowl, but racecourse rumour on Wednesday suggested the ride may go to Christophe Soumillon. The Niarchos family's Holocane is expected to run. Others left in include Mark Johnston's Dubai's Touch, a Listed winner at Goodwood last week, and Eoin Griffin's Finicius. World class: top turf performers by RPR 131 Manduro, 130 Authorized, Dylan Thomas, 127 Admire Moon, Notnowcato, 126 Miss Andretti, Red Rocks, Sakhee's Secret, Soldier Of Fortune, Viva Pataca Manduro's unlucky attempts at a mile Sept 3 2006 - Prix du Moulin (Longchamp) - C Soumillon - 3rd Settled in last place, he needed to be switched to get a clear run, lost momentum 2f out but finished well Aug 13 2006 - Prix Jacques le Marois (Deauville) - O Peslier - 2nd Heavy rain before the race leading to very soft ground hampered his chances, though he had every chance before finishing second July 23 2006 - Prix Messidor (Maisons-Laffitte) - C Soumillon - 3rd Restrained, went 5th 4f out, ran on under pressure but looked to be given much too much to do
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08-09-2007, 12:16 PM
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The rest of the field with just hear a whoosh........... he will have finished, collected his prize money and will be eating his hay by the time the others finish......
Okay, it won't be that easy, but i hope it is.
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08-10-2007, 01:09 AM
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Anyway, I'll take Turtle Bowl to upset here.... Come home safe everyone.
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08-10-2007, 03:56 AM
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That may have been a fluke, but he has the ability.
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08-10-2007, 10:22 AM
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08-10-2007, 10:59 AM
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It was certainly a big surprise to see him so close at Royal Ascot. If that wasn't a fluke, he should hit the board in my opinion, but i cannot see him beating Manduro
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08-10-2007, 12:08 PM
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He's a damned good and constantly overlooked horse and i hope he destroys the field and the others hear your "whooosh".
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08-10-2007, 01:08 PM
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After his Prix Jean Prat win he finished a long way behind Laverock in another group one, and that is hardly form to suggest he will be winning this. After that he dropped to Gr3 company, and he was only second, he was then dropped further in grade, down to listed level and was beaten again at Evens. Then he ran in two dreadful races worth only £9,000 together! He won them both, which he should have done. He then went onto finish second behind Racinger (who he then beat at Ascot), and Racinger has been fairly disappointing in his two starts in England. Turtle Bowl then was blown away by Manduro (getting beaten 5 lengths) on his last start before showing a HUGE improvement at Royal Ascot, which at the moment does look to be a fluke. This the Racing Post Analysis of the race of Turtle Bowl after Manduro beat him: "Turtle Bowl had won another weak Group 1 and his form had been of a much lesser level on softer ground this season. He moved up to track the winner into the straight but could not live with him in the closing stages and just what he achieved in holding off the disappointing Stormy River for second is questionable." Sure, Turtle Bowl is a consistant horse, and with only six runners in the race on Sunday i expect him to hit the board again, but i wouldn't say he was "constantly overlooked". He just isn't up to good gr1 standard. He is consistant at a lower level of racing. If Manduro doesn't run to his ability for whatever reason, Turtle Bowl may well pick up the pieces, but i cannot see him beating Manduro.
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08-10-2007, 01:11 PM
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08-10-2007, 01:15 PM
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I'm not saying that will be the excuse, but in my eyes the only way i can see him beaten is if he has an 'off' day. If he gets beaten a nose or something like that, then he will probably have been beaten by a better horse on the day. No one can doubt that fact that he is the best horse in the race BY FAR. On ratings he is the best horse on turf in the world.
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08-10-2007, 01:17 PM
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Even if he runs 5lbs below his best, he should still win.
He will have to run a LONG way below his ability to get beaten. There, is that better?????? Probably not.
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08-10-2007, 01:22 PM
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The race should revolve around Manduro, Lawman and Turtle Bowl. All three seem to like good ground rather than soft, so they should have their ground conditions. Turtle Bowl and Lawman are probably better milers than Manduro, but he should have too many guns for both of them, especially with a pacemaker making sure they go a good gallop.
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08-10-2007, 01:24 PM
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I'd prefer that they didn't run him in the Arc because the combination of soft ground and 12 furlongs will probably be too much for him.
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08-10-2007, 02:31 PM
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