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Old 10-16-2007, 01:18 PM
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21/10/2007 Sha Tin Track : Turf
Meeting No : 11 Course : "B+2" Course
Race Name : THE PREMIER BOWL (HANDICAP) Distance : 1200m
Race Class : HONG KONG GROUP 3
Sec./Div. No : 1
Rating Range : 095+

Horse (Brand No) Trainer Wt. WFA. Rtg. Rtg.+/- P Remarks
ABSOLUTE CHAMPION (E060)
D J Hall 133 - 128 - -
SCINTILLATION (C228)
C S Shum 129 - 124 0 -
GREEN TREASURE (D225)
C Fownes 123 - 118 - -
SUNNY SING (E135)
J Moore 122 - 117 -1 -
DANACOURT (E228)
J Moore 120 - 115 - -
MEDIC POWER (G303)
P O'Sullivan 120 - 115 - -
ABLE PRINCE (C348)
J Moore 117 - 112 -1 -
PLANET RULER (B359)
A Lee 116 - 111 0 -
NATURAL BLITZ (E227)
D Cruz 115 - 110 0 -
REGENCY HORSE (E229)
D E Ferraris 115 - 110 - -
ROYAL DELIGHT (G192)
C Fownes 113 - 108 0 -
SUNNY POWER (G203)
K W Lui 108 - 103 6 -
SAN LORENZO (C092)
A T Millard 107 - 102 -2 -
MAVERICK STAR (E279)
C H Yip 100 - 95 0 -

Reserve :
No. Horse (Brand No) Trainer Wt. WFA. Rtg. Rtg.+/- P Remarks
1 POCKET MONEY (E253)
J Size 111 - 106 2 - -



21/10/2007 Sha Tin Track : Turf
Meeting No : 11 Course : "B+2" Course
Race Name : THE SHA TIN TROPHY (HANDICAP) Distance : 1600m
Race Class : HONG KONG GROUP 3
Sec./Div. No : 1
Rating Range : 100+

Horse (Brand No) Trainer Wt. WFA. Rtg. Rtg.+/- P Remarks
VIVA PATACA (G096)
J Moore 133 - 129 - -
THE DUKE (B282)
C Fownes 129 - 125 1 -
ABLE ONE (G108)
J Moore 126 - 122 0 -
GOOD BA BA (E201)
A Schutz 126 - 122 - -
JOYFUL WINNER (E045)
J Moore 125 - 121 0 -
FLORAL PEGASUS (G011)
A S Cruz 124 - 120 - -
SIR ERNESTO (G051)
D Cruz 124 - 120 - -
BULLISH LUCK (C155)
A S Cruz 122 - 118 - -
EGYPTIAN RA (E002)
D J Hall 121 - 117 0 -
DOWN TOWN (G054)
C H Yip 120 - 116 0 -
VITAL KING (G222)
P O'Sullivan 120 - 116 - -
ART TRADER (E131)
J Moore 118 - 114 - -
ROYAL PRINCE (H072)
A S Cruz 114 - 110 - -
TIBER (D155)
J Moore 113 - 109 5 -

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No. Horse (Brand No) Trainer Wt. WFA. Rtg. Rtg.+/- P Remarks
1 GREEN BIRDIE (H245)
C Fownes 112 - 108 0 - -
2 SURVEY SURVEY (H070)
A S Cruz 111 - 107 0 - -
3 SAMBUCA (D189)
A T Millard 110 - 106 - - -
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Old 10-16-2007, 01:58 PM
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I know you will say The Duke or Bullish Luck, but surely nothing can beat Viva Pataca here.

What is Doctor Brown (sorry can't remember his new name) going to be aimed for this year, or has he been retired?

What about St Philip?
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Old 10-16-2007, 02:18 PM
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I know you will say The Duke or Bullish Luck, but surely nothing can beat Viva Pataca here.

What is Doctor Brown (sorry can't remember his new name) going to be aimed for this year, or has he been retired?

What about St Philip?
Dr. Brown is Helene Brilliant... the greatest of the Helenes!

St. Philip is Express Win.....

I love Dukie and Bullish boy but I need to ponder this..... these are great great fields. Bullish Luck needs to get warmed up and with Floral Peg, Good Ba Ba, Vital King and Joyful boy..... Jesus the only thing for certain is that Viva Pataca is not a lock.

Nice win by the underappreciated Viva Macau by the way.....

The other race is absolutely stellar. Regency Horse won't win against the likes of Scintillation, Ab Champ, Medic and Sunny BUT he will be a star by the end of the season.

Let's see..... The Duke for Gallant and Joyful Winner for Snowdrops and, and.....
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As an aside, i had forgotten that Regency Horse was taken away from Cruz.

YEA!!!!

That THAT, Tony.
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Is Mick (Kinane) going to take the ride on VP?
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VP won't get up at 1600.

Bet against
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VP won't get up at 1600.

Bet against
Oh crap, i've only just seen it was over a mile. Sorry. Yeah, he is a stout stayer, a mile won't suit.

I should have read the post more carefully.
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Old 10-16-2007, 03:23 PM
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Is Mick (Kinane) going to take the ride on VP?
My bet is Beadman gets the mount.

If not, Saint-Martin.
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Old 10-16-2007, 03:25 PM
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VP won't get up at 1600.

Bet against
... and besides, there are horse (pre)entered who are JUST as good.
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... and besides, there are horse (pre)entered who are JUST as good.
VP would beat them over 2400m
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Old 10-16-2007, 03:43 PM
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VP would beat them over 2400m
Some day, if you have a bit of time, check out the replays of Floral Peg's win streak.....

Nice horse.

http://www.hkjc.com/english/racing/h...p?HorseNo=G011
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Some day, if you have a bit of time, check out the replays of Floral Peg's win streak.....

Nice horse.

http://www.hkjc.com/english/racing/h...p?HorseNo=G011
He is a nice horse, and over a mile will probably beat VP, but over 2400 VP would go past laughing.
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Old 10-16-2007, 04:09 PM
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He is a nice horse, and over a mile will probably beat VP, but over 2400 VP would go past laughing.
Even though you lost the Red Clubs bet and never used a Godolphin-inspired sig line, i'll bet you here and now that the next time VP runs against the HK elite he gets beaten.

Deal?

Winner writes the loser's tagline.

Viva Pataca is an awfully good horse BUT there are many who get zero international attention who are just as good.
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Even though you lost the Red Clubs bet and never used a Godolphin-inspired sig line, i'll bet you here and now that the next time VP runs against the HK elite he gets beaten.

Deal?

Winner writes the loser's tagline.

Viva Pataca is an awfully good horse BUT there are many who get zero international attention who are just as good.
No, because VP could run against the "HK elite" over a mile again, where he would have no chance.

All i said was that VP would beat FP over 2400. Over 1600 there is only one winner in a match race, and that is FP.

Completely different distances.
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Old 10-16-2007, 04:15 PM
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Next time he runs at the appropriate distance, let me know if you'd like to make a wager.

The up-and-comers AND the old guard are not afraid of him.
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VP would beat them over 2400m
Like a drum...

a big drum
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the duke will
eat him for
breakfast.


i'll play along
and choose
mosse for the
mount.

beware of
the ables.
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Old 10-17-2007, 01:01 AM
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Mosse rode him once.....

That was a great field. He was 6th.

Irridescence, Ouija Board, Bullish Luck, Bowman's Crossing (rest in peace), Best Gift, Super Kid, Russian Pearl, Falstaff, Norse Dancer, et al.

Those were the days...
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Mosse rode him once.....

That was a great field. He was 6th.

Irridescence, Ouija Board, Bullish Luck, Bowman's Crossing (rest in peace), Best Gift, Super Kid, Russian Pearl, Falstaff, Norse Dancer, et al.

Those were the days...
That was a great field...
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Old 10-17-2007, 11:49 PM
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Beadman gets the VP mount...

Did i win a prize?


Race 9 - THE SHA TIN TROPHY (HANDICAP)
Sunday, October 21, 2007, Sha Tin, 17:10
Turf ,"B+2" Course ,1600m

Prize Money: $2,300,000.00, Rating: 100+, Race Class: HONG KONG GROUP 3

Horse No. Colour Horse Wt. Trainer Horse Wt. (Declaration) Rtg. Jockey Draw Brand No. Gear Rtg.+/- Wt.+/- (vs Declaration)
1 VIVA PATACA 133 J Moore 129 D Beadman 5 G096 H 2 -
2 THE DUKE 129 C Fownes 125 W M Lai (-2) 9 B282 1 -
3 ABLE ONE 126 J Moore 122 Z Purton 12 G108 0 -
4 GOOD BA BA 126 A Schutz 122 O Doleuze 11 E201 TT 0 -
5 JOYFUL WINNER 125 J Moore 121 C K Tong (-5) 1 E045 TT 0 -
6 FLORAL PEGASUS 124 A S Cruz 120 G Mosse 6 G011 TT 0 -
7 SIR ERNESTO 124 D Cruz 120 F Coetzee 8 G051 SR 5 -
8 BULLISH LUCK 122 A S Cruz 118 K L Chui (-7) 10 C155 B/XB -4 -
9 EGYPTIAN RA 121 D J Hall 117 G Boss 7 E002 0 -
10 DOWN TOWN 120 C H Yip 116 D Whyte 4 G054 TT 0 -
11 VITAL KING 120 P O'Sullivan 116 M Nunes 14 G222 B 0 -
12 ART TRADER 118 J Moore 114 K Shea 2 E131 TT -4 -
13 ROYAL PRINCE 114 A S Cruz 110 B Prebble 3 H072 TT 10 -
14 TIBER 113 J Moore 109 Y T Cheng (-2) 13 D155 XB/TT 5 -


STAND-BY STARTER
No. Horse Horse Wt.(Declaration) Wt. Rtg. Age Last 6 Runs Trainer Gear
1 GREEN BIRDIE 113 108 4 6/3/4/2/1/6 C Fownes
2 SURVEY SURVEY 113 107 4 8/3/9/2/4/6 A S Cruz XB/TT


..... and.....


Race 7 - THE PREMIER BOWL (HANDICAP)
Sunday, October 21, 2007, Sha Tin, 16:05
Turf ,"B+2" Course ,1200m

Prize Money: $2,300,000.00, Rating: 95+, Race Class: HONG KONG GROUP 3

Horse No. Colour Horse Wt. Trainer Horse Wt. (Declaration) Rtg. Jockey Draw Brand No. Gear Rtg.+/- Wt.+/- (vs Declaration)
1 ABSOLUTE CHAMPION 133 D J Hall 128 K L Chui (-7) 8 E060 SW 0 -
2 SCINTILLATION 129 C S Shum 124 G Mosse 5 C228 XB/H 0 -
3 GREEN TREASURE 123 C Fownes 118 C K Tong (-5) 7 D225 XB/TT 3 -
4 SUNNY SING 122 J Moore 117 M Nunes 2 E135 TT -1 -
5 DANACOURT 120 J Moore 115 D Beadman 10 E228 H1 3 -
6 MEDIC POWER 120 P O'Sullivan 115 B Prebble 13 G303 10 -
7 ABLE PRINCE 117 J Moore 112 Z Purton 14 C348 B-/SW1/TT -1 -
8 PLANET RULER 116 A Lee 111 O Doleuze 12 B359 B 0 -
9 NATURAL BLITZ 115 D Cruz 110 M W Leung (-5) 9 E227 TT 0 -
10 REGENCY HORSE 115 D E Ferraris 110 D Whyte 3 E229 B/TT -3 -
11 ROYAL DELIGHT 113 C Fownes 108 S Dye 11 G192 B 0 -
12 SUNNY POWER 113 K W Lui 103 Y T Cheng (-2) 1 G203 6 -
13 SAN LORENZO 113 A T Millard 102 W M Lai (-2) 4 C092 XB/TT -2 -
14 MAVERICK STAR 113 C H Yip 95 C W Wong (-5) 6 E279 0 -


STAND-BY STARTER
No. Horse Horse Wt.(Declaration) Wt. Rtg. Age Last 6 Runs Trainer Gear
1 POCKET MONEY 113 106 5 2/1/1/11/1/4 J Size B
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