Leading surveillance societies

[GenuineRisk]

Interesting reading:

http://www.privacyinternational.org/article.shtml?cmd[347]=x-347-559597

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Link doesn't work.

[Danzig]

http://www.privacyinternational.org/

then go to top news, and there is a link to 'leading surveillance societies'.

haven't read it yet, but i'm already wondering why or how anyone would find this to read.

Kind of interesting.
We take the right to privacy very seriously.
But our own constitution says nothing about it.

Its says plenty about liberty and individual rights,
but nothing on the right to privacy. We have kind of assumed this
and this group definitely has.

It will always be balancing act.
The society/government cannot
function properly with some sort
of information about individuals.

This will continue to be a major point
of clashes in the Supreme Court. (ie the court
will continue to see this contentious
theme in cases for a very long time imo)

[SCUDSBROTHER]

"Wiretapping and Surveillance Rules
Despite the existing laws and regulations, the right to privacy of private communications is not well-respected in Turkey. According to Human Rights Watch, human rights defenders are routinely placed under surveillance, often prevented from holding public events, and routinely prosecuted for various speech and assembly offenses.

Under the current Turkish Criminal Code, computer-related offenses can be prosecuted pursuant to Amendment 3756, "Crimes on Informatics." Articles 195-200 of the Turkish Criminal Code govern freedom of communication through letters, parcels, telegram and telephone. Government officials are required, subject to various exceptions, to obtain a judicial warrant before monitoring private correspondence. "

"Crimes on Informatics" ........LOL

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Kind of interesting.
We take the right to privacy very seriously.
But our own constitution says nothing about it.

Its says plenty about liberty and individual rights,
but nothing on the right to privacy. We have kind of assumed this
and this group definitely has.

It will always be balancing act.
The society/government cannot
function properly with some sort
of information about individuals.

This will continue to be a major point
of clashes in the Supreme Court. (ie the court
will continue to see this contentious
theme in cases for a very long time imo)

We're one terrorist attack away from being in a police state in the U.S..

Interstate highways will all become toll roads and tolls will be taken (and your papers checked) by Haliburton staff.

All the while, another generation of "manstream" American kids raised on McDonalds and Ritalin who have been taught to express themselves by reciting text (or, as needed, turning shopping malls into shooting galleries) as opposed to thinking critically will emerge as our new leaders and best hope.

The ChertOff Your Back.

Originally Posted by SentToStud

We're one terrorist attack away from being in a police state in the U.S..

Interstate highways will all become toll roads and tolls will be taken (and your papers checked) by Haliburton staff.

All the while, another generation of "manstream" American kids raised on McDonalds and Ritalin who have been taught to express themselves by reciting text (or, as needed, turning shopping malls into shooting galleries) as opposed to thinking critically will emerge as our new leaders and best hope.

The ChertOff Your Back.

Old cliche, but a double edged sword.

After 9/11, I felt more comfortable that airports were getting into people's "business". I felt more comfortable being checked at events in which very large numbers of people were present. Israeli citizens have given up a lot of right to privacy for security purposes. They have paid a price.

On the other hand, you have certain administrations that react without thinking of longterm consequences of actions involving surveillance... enough so that even the most conservative members of the Supreme Court are dumbfounded.

Just glad I live here where so many people think about both sides of the problem. I am also glad we have a Supreme Court. The only part of government that does not get totally caught up in "groupthink" when something awful happens.