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Old 01-13-2008, 11:11 PM
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really awesome filly and by no means do I mean to discredit her win in anyway, but... Not sure of what to make of these splits in on Santa Anita's track. 1/2 in 43, seven furlongs in 1:07 then proceeds to break the record by a full two seconds... I mean I realize she could very well be quite capable of doing this on perhaps any track, but was wondering how much we should give credit to here being how things have been over the past week with the tracks problems.. I must be like concrete to be having horses run in the times that they are.

What do ya'll think? Legit or not?

"Indian Blessing maintained a comfortable lead through seven furlongs in a lightning-fast 1:07.14 and was fully extended under jockey Garrett Gomez to fend off fast-closing runner-up Golden Doc A by a head. She completed seven furlongs in 1:19.89, which obliterated the previous stakes record of 1:21.11 set by Yearly Report in 2004 and even bettered the dirt main track record of 1:20 set by Spectacular Bid on January 5, 1980."

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Old 01-13-2008, 11:15 PM
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Im sure that you mean 6 furlongs in 1:07.
And to answer your question, I believe she is legit. Would love to see her go on to big things this year.
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Old 01-13-2008, 11:18 PM
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Her having a NTR set in California is like Bonds having the homerun record.

No its not legit, and the horse that almost ran her down never switched leads or would have went right past her. Not an impressive run for a champion filly
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Old 01-13-2008, 11:19 PM
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I think today's win sets her up perfectly for the Derby. To be perfectly honest, I think the Preakness is her only possible stumbling block to become the first filly to win the Triple Crown, as she will absolutely relish the 1 1/2 miles of the Belmont. Just imagine someone trying to catch her when she opens up 87 lengths on the final turn.
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Old 01-14-2008, 12:18 AM
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I think today's win sets her up perfectly for the Derby. To be perfectly honest, I think the Preakness is her only possible stumbling block to become the first filly to win the Triple Crown, as she will absolutely relish the 1 1/2 miles of the Belmont. Just imagine someone trying to catch her when she opens up 87 lengths on the final turn.
she wont win the triple crown dude, she's going to europe to run in the english darby.
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Old 01-14-2008, 12:46 AM
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I think today's win sets her up perfectly for the Derby. To be perfectly honest, I think the Preakness is her only possible stumbling block to become the first filly to win the Triple Crown, as she will absolutely relish the 1 1/2 miles of the Belmont. Just imagine someone trying to catch her when she opens up 87 lengths on the final turn.
Funny stuff.
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Old 01-14-2008, 12:48 AM
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The next Ruffian?
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Old 01-14-2008, 12:49 AM
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She couldnt pony Ruffian
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Old 01-14-2008, 12:59 AM
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Funny stuff.
You think it's easy? The bar has been set pretty high by someone on this site who actually believes that she's a top contender for the Derby.

Personally I think Baffert would be crazy to ship her to Thistledown....but what do I know.
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Old 01-14-2008, 01:05 AM
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Ok, tell you what. I'll rate her below every 3yo that has won two grade ones and is undefeated and has won around two turns. Is that a little bit more logical?
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Old 01-14-2008, 01:22 AM
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Ok, tell you what. I'll rate her below every 3yo that has won two grade ones and is undefeated and has won around two turns. Is that a little bit more logical?
It's all craziness and you should know better.

Accomplishment doesn't supercede performance, either in ability, or in it's predictive power.

I can't believe this is something that even needs to be explained....and frankly if that is the argument that you are holding on to then your entire premise is even weaker than I thought. But, then again, that's impossible.

Simply put, she has absolutely no chance in the KY Derby and just as much of a chance of even being pointed for the race ( forget about running in it ). Frankly, if she were to run Derby weekend it's probably more likely she shows up in the La Troienne than the KY Oaks.
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Old 01-14-2008, 01:38 AM
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I have no premise. I'm not making any predictions that she will be in the Derby, that she could win the Derby, or anything else. The only thing that I did was rate the three year olds on how I see them right now. Right now, I haven't seen those that have done more than her and are more deserving of the ranking that I gave her than she is. Speculation and predictions for the future are great but they are also worthless. In sports, you've got to beat the champion in order to take their title away. It's not just handed to you. Until I see more that PROVE they can do more than her, I'm leaving her up there. If that's funny to you, I'm happy to entertain. If it bothers you, I'm sorry you take it so personal.

One last thing. As I've always said, I don't rate the 3yo's only based on Derby potential. There are plenty of other races in which to make a name for yourself besides the Derby.
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Old 01-14-2008, 01:44 AM
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Then I'm confused. I thought you posted the other day that she was one of the top four contenders for the Derby. I apologize for my confusion.

I do think she's talented, perhaps even as far as a mile, but even at a time of pretty mild accomplishment I have trouble considering her in the top ten of 3YOs I have seen. However, that's just an opinion.
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Old 01-14-2008, 01:54 AM
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Then I'm confused. I thought you posted the other day that she was one of the top four contenders for the Derby. I apologize for my confusion.

I do think she's talented, perhaps even as far as a mile, but even at a time of pretty mild accomplishment I have trouble considering her in the top ten of 3YOs I have seen. However, that's just an opinion.
The confusion is probably my fault. I think it was on a Derby contender thread instead of a top 3yo thread. Usually, those lists are one and the same though at this time of year.

In all honesty, I'd still have her listed pretty high if it was a Derby list. Maybe not #3 but probably still in my top five although I think it's very unlikely that Baffert's thinking that route with her at this time. Fortunately for us, she's in the hands of someone that, if she keeps progressing and looks worthy of a shot, will take one.
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Old 01-14-2008, 01:58 AM
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I like Golden Doc A for the Belmont.
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Old 01-14-2008, 08:05 AM
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"Fortunately for us, she's in the hands of someone that, if she keeps progressing and looks worthy of a shot, will take one"

Unfortunately, she's in the hands of someone that will have her broken down before the 1st Saturday in May... we will see. Be lucky if she makes the Oaks.
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Why are races run on poly considered "new" stakes records ? Shouldnt it be a stakes record for poly and be considered seperate from the existing track record? Not that it really matters ...
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Old 01-14-2008, 09:21 AM
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Then I'm confused. I thought you posted the other day that she was one of the top four contenders for the Derby. I apologize for my confusion.

I do think she's talented, perhaps even as far as a mile, but even at a time of pretty mild accomplishment I have trouble considering her in the top ten of 3YOs I have seen. However, that's just an opinion.
You are probably confused because you are remembering what he actually did write in the thread, instead of what he is now strangely claiming he wrote/meant.
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Old 01-14-2008, 09:56 AM
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"Fortunately for us, she's in the hands of someone that, if she keeps progressing and looks worthy of a shot, will take one"

Unfortunately, she's in the hands of someone that will have her broken down before the 1st Saturday in May... we will see. Be lucky if she makes the Oaks.
That's the way the game works. The strong survive, the rest don't.
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Wow that was fast.
At least she looked solid doing it.
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