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Manduro - best horse on the planet
 It's official From Racing Post.... World Champion accolade for mighty Manduro by PA Sport staff THE mighty Manduro claimed the title of best horse on the planet following the unveiling of the World Thoroughbred Rankings at a ceremony in London. Andre Fabre's now-retired six-year-old enjoyed a flawless 2007, during which he was unbeaten in five starts, three of them in Group 1 company over distances between 1m and 1m2f. Victory in the Prix Foy on Arc trials day at Longchamp in September saw him rocket to favouritism for the main event itself as he proved his stamina over a mile and a half. But it soon transpired he had suffered a career-ending injury and he is now part of Sheikh Mohammed's Darley breeding operation. He has been allotted a ranking of 131, some 2lb above Peter Chapple-Hyam's Derby hero Authorized, who is rated on a par with Breeders' Cup Classic winner Curlin, Dylan Thomas and Invasor. Belmont Stakes heroine Rags To Riches was rated the best filly or mare, being given a mark of 123. In the two-year-old division, Jim Bolger's unbeaten New Approach came out best on 126, although interestingly that mark puts him just 1lb in front of Fast Company. The pair clashed in the Dewhurst at Newmarket, with New Approach taking the spoils by half a length. Then trained by Brian Meehan, Fast Company will run in the Godolphin blue next season. It is perhaps also worth noting New Approach's rating is 3lb superior to that handed to Bolger's Teofilo 12 months ago. Tommy Stack's Myboycharlie is on 122, 2lb in front of Raven's Pass and Rio De La Plata. WORLD RANKINGS TOP OLDER HORSES Horse Rating Trainer Manduro 131 Andre Fabre (France) Dylan Thomas 129 Aidan O'Brien (Ireland) Invasor 129 Kiaran McLaughlin (USA) Admire Moon 125 Hiroyoshi Matsuda (Japan) English Channel 125 Todd Pletcher (USA) Lawyer Ron 124 Todd Pletcher (USA) Youmzain 124 Mick Channon Notnowcato 123 Sir Michael Stoute Ramonti 123 Saeed Bin Suroor Getaway 122 Andre Fabre (France) Kip Deville 122 Richard Dutrow Jr (USA) Lava Man 122 Doug O'Neill (USA) Meisho Samson 122 Shigetada Takahashi (Japan) Pop Rock 122 Katsuhiko Sumii (Japan) Septimus 122 Aidan O'Brien (Ireland) WORLD RANKINGS TOP THREE-YEAR-OLDS Authorized 129 Peter Chapple-Hyam Curlin 129 Steve Asmussen (USA) Street Sense 126 Carl Nafzger (USA) Soldier Of Fortune 125 Aidan O'Brien Any Given Saturday 124 Todd Pletcher (USA) Literato 123 Jean-Claude Rouget (France) Rags To Riches 123 Todd Pletcher (USA) Darjina 122 Alain De Royer-Dupre (France) Eagle Mountain 122 Aidan O'Brien (Now Mike De Kock) Excellent Art 122 Aidan O'Brien (Ireland) Hard Spun 122 Larry Jones (USA) Peeping Fawn 122 Aidan O'Brien (Ireland) Sagara 122 Jonathan Pease (France) EUROPEAN RANKINGS TOP TWO-YEAR-OLDS New Approach 126 Jim Bolger (Ireland) Fast Company 125 Brian Meehan (Now Saeed Bin Suroor) Myboycharlie 122 Tommy Stack (Ireland) Raven's Pass 120 John Gosden Rio De La Plata 120 Saeed Bin Suroor Zarkava 119 Alain De Royer-Dupre (France) Kingsgate Native 118 John Best Natagora 118 Pascal Bary (France) Thewayyouare 118 Andre Fabre (France) Fleeting Spirit 117 Jeremy Noseda Hello Morning 117 Criquette Head-Maarek (France) Ibn Khaldun 117 Saeed Bin Suroor Listen 117 Aidan O'Brien (Ireland) * * * * Surprised Ramonti is where he is, I thought he deserved to be higher than a few of those above him..... Especially English Channel. This ratings people know a hell of a lot more than I do, though.
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Not enough time to rip this apart but quickly ummm, Hong Kong disrespected again  , the JRA horses in a very strange order (Chosan ahead of Daiwa Scarlet and Vodka?), Circular Quay is on there (???).... ummm WHY (?), Echelon too low, Geordieland ahead of Red Clubs (???)..... Ramonti should be MUCH higher.WORLD THOROUGHBRED RACEHORSE RANKINGS - 2007 Rank Rating Cat Surface Horse A S Trainer Trained Position Race Date Group Distance Race Run 1 131 I Turf Manduro (GER) 5 H A. Fabre FR 1st Prince of Wales's 20th June 1 2000 GB 126 M Prix d'Ispahan 20th May 1 1850 FR 2 129 I,L Turf Authorized (IRE) 3 C P.W. Chapple-Hyam GB 1st Vodafone Derby/Juddmonte International 2nd June/21st Aug 1 2400/2080 GB 2 129 I Dirt Curlin (USA) 3 C S. M. Assmussen USA 1st Breeders' Cup Classic - Powered by Dodge 27th Oct 1 2000 USA 127 L 2nd Belmont 9th June 1 2400 USA 2 129 L Turf Dylan Thomas (IRE) 4 C A.P. O'Brien IRE 1st King George VI & Queen Elizabeth 28th July 1 2400 GB 2 129 I Dirt Invasor (ARG) 4 C K.P. McLaughlin USA 1st Emirates Dubai World Cup 31st Mar 1 2000 UAE 6 126 I Dirt Street Sense (USA) 3 C C A. Nafzger USA 1st Kentucky Derby 5th May 1 2000 USA 7 125 M Turf Admire Moon (JPN) 4 C H. Matsuda JPN 1st Dubai Duty Free 31st Mar 1 1777 UAE 7 125 L Turf English Channel (USA) 5 H T.A. Pletcher USA 1st John Deere Breeders' Cup Turf 27th Oct 1 2400 USA 7 125 L Turf Soldier Of Fortune (IRE) 3 C A.P. O'Brien IRE 1st Budweiser Irish Derby 1st July 1 2400 IRE 10 124 M Dirt Any Given Saturday (USA) 3 C T.A. Pletcher USA 1st Haskell Invitational 5th Aug 1 1800 USA 10 124 M Dirt Lawyer Ron (USA) 4 C T.A. Pletcher USA 1st Whitney H/Woodward 28th July/1st Sept 1 1800 USA 10 124 L Turf Youmzain (IRE) 4 C M.R. Channon GB 2nd Prix de L'Arc de Triomphe Lucien Barriere 7th Oct 1 2400 FR 13 123 I Turf Literato (FR) 3 C J-C. Rouget FR 1st Emirates Airline Champion 20th Oct 1 2000 GB 13 123 I Turf Notnowcato (GB) 5 H Sir M. Stoute GB 1st Tattersalls Gold Cup 27th May 1 2100 IRE 13 123 M,L Dirt Rags To Riches (USA) 3 F T.A. Pletcher USA 1st Kentucky Oaks/Belmont 4th May/9th June 1 1800/2400 USA 13 123 M Turf Ramonti (FR) 5 H S. bin Suroor GB 1st Queen Elizabeth II 29th Sept 1 1600 GB 17 122 M Turf Darjina (FR) 3 F A. de Royer-Dupre FR 1st Qatar Prix du Moulin de Longchamp 9th Sept 1 1600 FR 17 122 I Turf Eagle Mountain (GB) 3 C A.P. O'Brien IRE 2nd Emirates Airline Champion 20th Oct 1 2000 GB 17 122 M Turf Excellent Art (GB) 3 C A.P. O'Brien IRE 2nd Queen Elizabeth II 29th Sept 1 1600 GB 17 122 L Turf Getaway (GER) 4 C A. Fabre FR 4th Prix de L'Arc de Triomphe Lucien Barriere 7th Oct 1 2400 FR 17 122 M,I Dirt Hard Spun (USA) 3 C J. L. Jones USA 2nd/1st/2nd Kentucky Derby/Kentucky Cup Classic/Breeders' Cup Classic - Powered by Dodge 5th May/29th Sept/27th Oct 1/2/1 2000/1800/2000 USA 120 S 1st King's Bishop 25th Aug 1 1400 USA 17 122 M Turf Kip Deville (USA) 4 C R.E. Dutrow Jr USA 1st NetJets Breeders' Cup Mile 27th Oct 1 1600 USA 17 122 I Turf Lava Man (USA) 6 G D.F. O'Neill USA 2nd Charles Whittingham Memorial H 9th June 1 2000 USA 122 I Dirt 1st Hollywood Gold Cup 30th June 1 2000 USA 17 122 I,L Turf Meisho Samson (JPN) 4 C S. Takahashi JPN 1st/3rd Tenno Sho (Autumn)/Japan Cup 28th Oct/25th Nov 1 2000/2400 JPN 17 122 I,L Turf Peeping Fawn (USA) 3 F A.P. O'Brien IRE 1st Darley Irish Oaks/Blue Square Nassau/Darley Yorkshire Oaks 15th July/4th Aug/22nd Aug 1 2400/1950/2400 IRE/GB/GB 17 122 L Turf Pop Rock (JPN) 6 H K. Sumii JPN 2nd Japan Cup 25th Nov 1 2400 JPN 17 122 L Turf Sagara (USA) 3 C J.E. Pease FR 3rd Prix de L'Arc de Triomphe Lucien Barriere 7th Oct 1 2400 FR 17 122 E Turf Septimus (IRE) 4 C A.P. O'Brien IRE 1st GNER Doncaster Cup 14th Sept 2 3600 GB 29 121 M Turf Daiwa Major (JPN) 6 H H. Uehara JPN 1st Yasuda Kinen 3rd June 1 1600 JPN 29 121 M Turf Indian Ink (IRE) 3 F R. Hannon GB 1st Coronation 22nd June 1 1600 GB 29 121 L Turf Matsurida Gogh (JPN) 4 C S. Kunieda JPN 1st Arima Kinen 23rd Dec 1 2500 JPN 29 121 S Dirt Midnight Lute (USA) 4 C B. Baffert USA 1st TVG Breeders' Cup Sprint 27th Oct 1 1200 USA 29 121 E Turf Yeats (IRE) 6 H A.P. O'Brien IRE 1st Irish Field St Leger 15th Sept 1 2800 IRE 34 120 M Turf Cesare (GB) 6 G J.R. Fanshawe GB 4th Queen Elizabeth II 29th Sept 1 1600 GB 34 120 M Turf Cockney Rebel (IRE) 3 C G. A. Huffer GB 1st Stan James 2000 Guineas/Boylesports Irish 2000 Guineas 5th May/26th May 1 1600 GB/IRE 34 120 M Dirt Corinthian (USA) 4 C J.A. Jerkens USA 1st Metropolitian H/Breeders' Cup Dirt Mile 28th May/27th Oct 1/L 1600 USA 34 120 M,I Turf Duke Of Marmalade (IRE) 3 C A.P. O'Brien IRE 2nd/4th/2nd/2nd St James's Palace/ Juddmonte International/Tattersalls Millions Irish Champion/Queen Elizabeth II 19th June/21st Aug/8th Sept/29th Sept 1 1600/2000/2000/ 1600 GB/GB/IRE/GB 34 120 S Dirt Fabulous Strike (USA) 4 G T. M. Beattie USA 1st Vosburgh 30th Sept 1 1200 USA 34 120 I Dirt Grasshopper (USA) 3 C N.J. Howard USA 2nd Travers 25th Aug 1 2000 USA 34 120 M Turf Lawman (FR) 3 C J-M Beguigne FR 1st Prix Jean Prat 8th July 1 1600 FR 34 120 S Turf Miss Andretti (AUS) 6 M L. Freedman AUS 1st King's Stand 19th June 2 1000 GB 34 120 I Turf Red Rocks (IRE) 4 C B.J. Meehan GB 1st Gordon Richards/Prince of Wales's 27th Apr/20th June 3/1 2000 GB 34 120 S Turf Sakhee's Secret (GB) 3 C H. Morrison GB 1st Darley July Cup 13th July 1 1200 GB 34 120 L,E Turf Scorpion (IRE) 5 H A.P. O'Brien IRE 1st/2nd/2nd Vodafone Coronation/Hardwicke/Irish Field St. Leger 1st June/23rd June/15th Sept 1/2/1 2400/2400/2800 GB/GB/IRE 45 119 L Turf Adlerflug (GER) 3 C J. Hirschberger GER 1st BMW Deutsches Derby 1st July 1 2400 GER 45 119 M,I Turf After Market (USA) 4 C J.A. Shirreffs USA 1st/1st/2nd Charles Whittingham Mem H/Eddie Read H/Kelso BC H 9th Jun/22nd Jul/29th Sept 1/1/2 2000/1800/1600 USA 45 119 L Turf Ask (GB) 4 C Sir M. Stoute GB 1st Grosvenor Casinos Cumberland Lodge 30th Sept 2 2400 GB 45 119 S Turf Benbaun (IRE) 6 G M.J. Wallace GB 1st Prix de L'Abbaye de Longhamp Majestic Barriere de Cannes 7th Oct 1 1000 FR 45 119 I,L Turf Better Talk Now (USA) 8 G H. G. Motion USA 1st/3rd Manhattan H/United Nations 9th June/7th July 1 2000/2200 USA 45 119 L Turf Cloudy's Knight (USA) 7 G F.J. Kirby USA 1st Pattison Canadian International 21st Oct 1 2400 CAN 45 119 L Turf Doctor Dino (FR) 5 H R. Gibson FR 1st Cathay Pacific Hong Kong Vase 9th Dec 1 2400 HK 45 119 M Turf Finsceal Beo (IRE) 3 F J. S Bolger IRE 1st Stan James 1000 Guineas 6th May 1 1600 GB 45 119 M,I Turf George Washington (IRE) 4 C A.P. O'Brien IRE 3rd Coral Eclipse/Qatar Prix du Moulin de Longchamp 7th July/9th Sept 1 2000/1600 GB/FR 45 119 M Turf Kongo Rikishio (IRE) 5 H K. Yamauchi JPN 2nd Yasuda Kinen 3rd June 1 1600 JPN 45 119 L Turf Mountain High (IRE) 5 H Sir M. Stoute GB 1st Grand Prix de Saint-Cloud 24th June 1 2400 FR 45 119 L Turf Quijano (GER) 5 G P. Schiergen GER 1st Grosser Preis von Baden 2nd Sept 1 2400 GER 45 119 L Turf Saddex (GB) 4 C P. Rau GER 1st Grand Prix de Chantilly Mitsubishi Motors 3rd June 2 2400 FR 45 119 L Turf Sixties Icon (GB) 4 C J. Noseda GB 1st StanJamesUK.com Jockey Club 6th May 2 2400 GB 45 119 M Turf The Tin Man (USA) 9 G R.E. Mandella USA 2nd American Invitational H 30th June 2 1800 USA 60 118 M Turf Astronomer Royal (USA) 3 C A.P. O'Brien IRE 1st Poule d'Essai des Poulains 13th May 1 1600 FR 60 118 M Turf Creachadoir (IRE) 3 C J.S. Bolger/S bin Suroor IRE/GB 2nd/1st/2nd Boylesports Irish 2000 Guineas/Joel /Cathay Pacific Hong Kong Mile 26th May/6th Oct/9th Dec 1/3/1 1600 IRE/GB/HK 60 118 L Turf Delta Blues (JPN) 6 H K. Sumii JPN 5th Japan Cup 25th Nov 1 2400 JPN 60 118 S Turf Dutch Art (GB) 3 C P.W. Chapple-Hyam GB 2nd Darley July Cup 13th July 1 1200 GB 60 118 M Dirt Ginger Punch (USA) 4 F R. J. Frankel USA 1st Emirates Airline Breeders' Cup Distaff 27th Oct 1 1800 USA 60 118 I Turf Jambalaya (CAN) 5 G Ms. C.D. Phillips CAN 1st Arlington Million 11th Aug 1 2000 USA 60 118 I Turf Mandesha (FR) 4 F A. de Royer-Dupre FR 2nd Blue Square Nassau 4th Aug 1 1950 GB 60 118 L Turf Mrs Lindsay (USA) 3 F F. Rohaut FR 1st Prix Vermeille - Lucien Barriere 16th Sept 1 2400 FR 60 118 M Turf Nobiz Like Shobiz (USA) 3 C B. Tagg USA 1st Jamaica H 6th Oct 2 1600 USA 118 M Dirt Wood Memorial 7th Apr 1 1800 USA 60 118 M Turf Showing Up (USA) 4 C B. Tagg USA 2nd Maker's Mark Mile 13th Apr 2 1600 USA 60 118 L Turf Sky Conqueror (CAN) 5 H D.D. Banach CAN 1st/3rd Northern Dancer BC Turf/Nijinsky 22nd July/26th Aug 2 2400 CAN 60 118 S Dirt Smokey Stover (USA) 4 G G. Gilchrist USA 1st Sunshine Millions Padua Stables Sprint/Potrero Grande BC H 27th Jan/7th Apr -/2 1300 USA 60 118 M,I Turf Soldier Hollow (GB) 7 H P. Schiergen GER 1st/2nd Grosser Dallmayr Preis-Bayerisches Zuchtrennen/Oettingen-Rennen 29th July/28th Aug 1/2 2000/1600 GER 60 118 S Turf Soldier's Tale (USA) 6 H J. Noseda GB 1st Golden Jubilee 23rd June 1 1200 GB 60 118 M Turf Super Hornet (JPN) 4 C Y.Yahagi JPN 2nd Mile Championship 18th Nov 1 1600 JPN 60 118 M,L Dirt Tiago (USA) 3 C J.A. Shirreffs USA 3rd/1st Belmont /Goodwood 9th June/29th Sept 1 2400/1800 USA 60 118 M Turf Toylsome (GB) 8 H J. Hirschberger GER 1st Prix de la Foret Casino Barriere de Biarritz 6th Oct 1 1400 FR 60 118 I Dirt Vermilion (JPN) 5 H S. Ishizaka JPN 1st Japan Cup Dirt/Tokyo Daishoten 24th Nov/29th Dec 1/L 2100/2000 JPN 60 118 L Turf Zambezi Sun (GB) 3 C P. Bary FR 1st/3rd Juddmonte Grand Prix de Paris/Prix Niel-Lucien Barriere 14th July/16th Sept 1/2 2400 FR 79 117 I Turf Agnes Ark (JPN) 4 C H. Kawachi JPN 2nd Tenno Sho (Autumn) 28th Oct 1 2000 JPN 79 117 M Turf Asiatic Boy (ARG) 4 C M.F. de Kock UAE 4th BGC Sussex 1st Aug 1 1600 GB 79 117 L Turf Chosan (JPN) 5 H T. Shimizu JPN 6th Japan Cup 25th Nov 1 2400 JPN 79 117 I Turf Distant Way (USA) 6 H L. Brogi ITY 1st Premio Presidente Della Repubblica At The Races 13th May 1 2000 ITY 79 117 M Turf Einstein (BRZ) 5 H Ms H. Pitts USA 1st Mervyn Muniz Jr. Memorial H 10th Mar 2 1800 USA 79 117 E Turf Geordieland (FR) 6 H J.A. Osborne GB 2nd Ascot Gold Cup 21st June 1 4000 GB 79 117 M Turf Holocene (USA) 3 C P. Bary FR 2nd Prix du Haras de Fresnay-Le-Buffard Jacques Le Marois 12th Aug 1 1600 FR 79 117 M Dirt Hystericalady (USA) 4 F J. Hollendorfer USA 2nd Emirates Airline Breeders' Cup Distaff 27th Oct 1 1800 USA 79 117 L Turf Irish Wells (FR) 4 C F. Rohaut FR 1st Grand Prix de Deauville - Lucien Barriere 26th Aug 2 2500 FR 79 117 M Turf Jeremy (USA) 4 C Sir M. Stoute GB 2nd/3rd Queen Anne /BGC Sussex 19th June/1st Aug 1 1600 GB 79 117 L Turf Lahudood (GB) 4 F K.P. McLaughlin USA 1st Emirates Airlines Breeders' Cup Filly & Mare Turf 27th Oct 1 2200 USA 79 117 L Turf Light Shift (USA) 3 F H.R.A. Cecil GB 1st Vodafone Oaks 1st June 1 2400 GB 79 117 M Turf Linngari (IRE) 5 H H.J.Brown/A.de Royer-Dupre UAE/FR 1st Premio Vittorio di Capua 21st Oct 1 1600 ITY 79 117 L Turf Maraahel (IRE) 6 H Sir M. Stoute GB 3rd/1st Vodafone Coronation Cup/Hardwicke 1st June/23rd June 1/2 2400 GB 79 117 S Turf Marchand D'Or (FR) 4 G F. Head FR 1st Prix Maurice de Gheest 5th Aug 1 1300 FR 79 117 M,I Dirt Political Force (USA) 4 C H.A. Jerkens USA 2nd/3rd Metropolitan H/Jockey Club Gold Cup 28th May/30th Sept 1 1600/2000 USA 79 117 M Turf Precious Kitten (USA) 4 F R.J. Frankel USA 1st Matriarch 25th Nov 1 1600 USA 79 117 M Turf Price Tag (GB) 4 F R. J. Frankel USA 2nd Gamely BC 28th Mat 1 1800 USA 79 117 S Turf Red Clubs (IRE) 4 C B.W. Hills GB 1st Betfred Sprint Cup 8th Sept 1 1200 GB 79 117 I Turf Red Giant (USA) 3 C T.A. Pletcher USA 2nd Secretariat 11th Aug 1 2000 USA 79 117 M Turf Remarkable News (VEN) 5 H A. Penna Jr USA 1st Firecracker H 30th June 2 1600 USA 79 117 M Dirt Scat Daddy (USA) 3 C T.A. Pletcher USA 1st Florida Derby 31st Mar 1 1800 USA 79 117 L Turf Schiaparelli (GER) 4 C P. Schiergen GER 1st Jockey Club E Coppa D'Oro 14th Oct 1 2400 ITY 79 117 L Turf Sir Percy (GB) 4 C M.P. Tregoning GB 4th Nakheel Dubai Sheema Classic 31st Mar 1 2400 UAE 79 117 M Turf Spirito Del Vento (FR) 4 G J-M Beguigne FR 1st Prix Daniel Wildenstein 6th Oct 2 1600 FR 79 117 L Turf Sunriver (USA) 4 C T.A. Pletcher USA 2nd/1st Man O' War /Hollywood Turf Cup 8th Sept/8th Dec 1 2200/2400 USA 79 117 S Dirt Surf Cat (USA) 5 H B. Headley USA 2nd Triple Bend Invitational H 7th July 1 1400 USA 79 117 M Turf Suzuka Phoenix (JPN) 5 H M. Hashida JPN 3rd Mile Championship 18th Nov 1 1600 JPN 79 117 S Turf Takeover Target (AUS) 8 G J. Janiak AUS 2nd Golden Jubilee 23rd June 1 1200 GB 79 117 M Turf Turtle Bowl (IRE) 5 H F. Rohaut FR 3rd Queen Anne 19th June 1 1600 GB 79 117 I Turf Vadapolina (FR) 3 F A. Fabre FR 1st Prix de Psyche 31st July 3 2000 FR 79 117 L Turf Vodka (JPN) 3 F K. Sumii JPN 1st Tokyo Yushun (Japanese Derby) 27th May L 2400 JPN 79 117 I Turf Yellowstone (IRE) 3 C A.P. O'Brien IRE 4th Coral Eclipse 7th July 1 2000 GB 112 116 L Turf Admire Fuji (JPN) 5 H M. Hashida JPN 4th Takarazuka Kinen 24th June 1 2200 JPN 112 116 L Turf Bussoni (GER) 6 H H. Blume GER 1st/3rd Bosphorus Cup/Cathay Pacific Hong Kong Vase 9th Sept/9th Dec 2/1 2400 TUR/HK 112 116 I Turf Company (JPN) 6 H H. Otonashi JPN 3rd Tenno Sho (Autumn) 28th Oct 1 2000 JPN 112 116 M Turf Cosmonaut (USA) 5 H F. Parisel USA 3rd NetJets Breeders' Cup Mile 27th Oct 1 1600 USA 112 116 M Dirt Daaher (CAN) 3 C K.P. McLaughlin USA 1st Hill 'N' Dale Cigar Mile 24th Nov 1 1600 USA 112 116 S Turf Dandy Man (IRE) 4 C Ms T. Collins IRE 2nd King's Stand 19th June 2 1000 GB 112 116 S Dirt Dream Rush (USA) 3 F R.A.Violette Jr USA 1st Darley Test 4th Apr 1 1400 USA 112 116 L Turf Grand Couturier (GB) 4 C R. Ribaudo USA 1st Sword Dancer Invitational 11th Aug 1 2400 USA 112 116 S Dirt Greg's Gold (USA) 6 G D.E. Hofmans USA 1st Pat O'Brien H 19th Aug 2 1400 USA 112 116 M Turf He's A Decoy (IRE) 3 C D. Wachman IRE 3rd Boylesports Irish 2000 Guineas 26th May 1 1600 IRE 112 116 S Dirt In Summation (USA) 4 C C. Clement USA 1st Bing Crosby H 29th July 1 1400 USA 112 116 I Dirt Lady Joanne (USA) 3 F C.A. Nafzger USA 1st Alabama 18th Aug 1 2000 USA 112 116 L Turf Laverock (IRE) 5 H S bin Suroor UAE/GB 2nd/4th Princess of Wales's /King George VI & Queen Elizabeth 12th July/28th July 2/1 2400 GB 112 116 M Dirt Lear's Princess (USA) 3 F K.P. McLaughlin USA 1st Gazelle 15th Sept 1 1800 USA 112 116 M Turf Majestic Roi (USA) 3 F M.R. Channon GB 1st Kingdom of Bahrain Sun Chariot 6th Oct 1 1600 GB 112 116 M Dirt Molengao (BRZ) 6 H P.H. Lobo USA 1st Mervyn LeRoy H 5th May 2 1700 USA 112 116 M Turf My Typhoon (IRE) 5 M W.I. Mott USA 1st Just a Game/Diana 9th June/28th July 2/1 1600/1800 USA 112 116 I Turf Nashoba's Key (USA) 4 F Ms C. Gaines USA 1st Yellow Ribbon 29th Sept 1 2000 USA 116 M Dirt Clement L. Hirsch H 5th Aug 2 1700 USA 112 116 M Dirt Octave (USA) 3 F T.A. Pletcher USA 3rd Emirates Airline Breeders' Cup Distaff 27th Oct 1 1800 USA 112 116 M Dirt Panty Raid (USA) 3 F T.A. Pletcher USA 1st Juddmonte Spinster 7th Oct 1 1800 USA 112 116 L Turf Papal Bull (GB) 4 C Sir M. Stoute GB 1st/1st/3rd Princess of Wales's /Geoffret Freer/Arc Trial 12th July/18th Aug/21st Sept 2/3/3 2400/2650/2200 GB 112 116 M Turf Passager (FR) 4 G Mme C. Head-Maarek FR 3rd Juddmonte Lockinge 19th May 1 1600 GB 112 116 I,L Turf Pressing (IRE) 4 C R.Feligioni /M.A. Jarvis ITY/GB 1st Federico Tesio/Premio Roma At The Races 29th Sept/4th Nov 3/1 2200/2000 ITY 112 116 L Turf Prince Flori (GER) 4 C S. Smrczek GER 1st/3rd Grosser Mercedes-Benz-Preis/Grand Prix de Saint-Cloud 20th May/24th June 2/1 2200/2400 GER/FR 112 116 M Turf Purim (USA) 5 H T.F. Proctor USA 1st Shadwell Turf Mile 6th Oct 1 1600 USA 112 116 M Turf Racinger (FR) 4 C F. Head FR 1st Prix du Muguet 1st May 2 1600 FR 112 116 I Turf Royal Highness (GER) 5 M C. Clement USA 1st Beverly D 11th Aug 1 1900 USA 112 116 I Turf Satwa Queen (FR) 5 M J. de Roualle FR 1st Prix de l'Opera - Lucien Barriere 7th Oct 1 2000 FR 112 116 I Turf Shadow Gate (JPN) 5 H Y. Kato JPN 1st Singapore Airlines International Cup 20th May 1 2000 SIN 112 116 M Dirt Sightseeing (USA) 3 C C.R. McGaughey III USA 2nd Wood Memorial 7th Apr 1 1800 USA 112 116 M Dirt Spring at Last (USA) 4 C D.F. O'Neill USA 1st Etisalat Godolphin Mile 31st Mar 2 1600 UAE 112 116 L Turf Stream of Gold (IRE) 6 G K.P. McLaughlin USA 4th Pattison Canadian International 21st Oct 1 2400 CAN 112 116 I Dirt Student Council (USA) 5 H V. Cerin USA 1st Pacific Classic 19th Aug 1 2000 USA 112 116 M Dirt Tough Tiz's Sis (USA) 3 F B. Baffert USA 1st Lady's Secret 7th Oct 1 1700 USA 112 116 M Turf Vital Equine (IRE) 3 C E.J. O'Neill GB 2nd Stan James 2000 Guineas 5th May 1 1600 GB 112 116 M Turf Wait A While (USA) 4 F T.A. Pletcher USA 1st Honey Fox H/Ballston Spa H 4th Mar/23rd Aug 3/2 1700 USA 112 116 L Turf West Wind (GB) 3 F H-A. Pantall FR 2nd Prix Vermeille - Lucien Barriere 16th Sept 1 2400 FR 149 115 M Dirt Arson Squad (USA) 4 G B. Headley USA 1st Strub 3rd Feb 2 1800 USA 149 115 L,E Turf Asakusa Kings (JPN) 3 C R. Okubo JPN 2nd/1st Tokyo Yushun (Japanese Derby)/Kikuka Sho (Japenese St Leger) 27th May/21st Oct L 2400/3000 JPN 149 115 S Turf Asset (IRE) 4 G R. Hannon GB 3rd Golden Jubilee 23rd June 1 1200 GB 149 115 M,I Dirt Awesome Gem (USA) 4 G C. Dollase USA 2nd/2nd/2nd/3rd San Diego H/Pacific Classic/Goodwood/Breeders' Cup Classic - Powered by Dodge 21st July/19th Aug/29thSept/27th Oct 2/1/1/1 1700/2000/1800/ 2000 USA 149 115 M Dirt Balance (USA) 4 F D.E. Hofmans USA 1st/2nd Santa Margarita H/Vanity Invitational H 10th Mar/7th July 1 1800 USA 149 115 S Dirt Benny The Bull (USA) 4 C R.E. Dutrow Jr USA 1st Forego/Frank J. De Francis Memorial Dash 1st Sept/24th Nov 1 1400/1200 USA 149 115 M Turf Bit of Whimsy (USA) 3 F B. Tagg USA 1st Queen Elizabeth II Challenge Cup 13th Oct 1 1800 USA 149 115 M Dirt Blue Concorde (JPN) 7 H T. Hattori JPN 1st Kashiwa Kinen/Mile Championship Nambu Hai 2nd May/8th Oct L 1600 JPN 149 115 L Turf Boscobel (GB) 3 C M. Johnston GB 1st King Edward VII 22nd June 2 2400 GB 149 115 M Dirt Buzzard's Bay (USA) 5 H R.W. Ellis USA 1st Californian 2nd June 2 1800 USA 149 115 I Dirt C P West (USA) 3 C N.P. Zito USA 4th Preakness 19th May 1 1900 USA 149 115 M Dirt Circular Quay (USA) 3 C T.A. Pletcher USA 1st Louisiana Derby 10th Mar 2 1700 USA 149 115 M Turf Citronnade (USA) 4 F R. J. Frankel USA 1st Gamely BC 28th May 1 1800 USA 149 115 E Turf Coastal Path (GB) 3 C A. Fabre FR 1st Prix Lutece 7th Sept 3 3000 FR 149 115 L Turf Daiwa Scarlet (JPN) 3 F K. Matsuda JPN 1st/2nd Queen Elizabeth II Commemorative Cup/Arima Kinen 11th Nov/23rd Dec 1 2200/2500 JPN 149 115 M Turf Daytona (IRE) 3 G D. L. Hendricks USA 1st San Gabriel H 30th Dec 2 1800 USA 149 115 M Dirt Dominican (USA) 3 G D. Miller USA 1st Toyota Blue Grass 14th Apr 1 1800 USA 149 115 M Turf Dreaming of Anna (USA) 3 F W.M. Catalano USA 1st Pucker Up 8th Sept 3 1800 USA 149 115 M Turf Echelon (GB) 5 M Sir M. Stoute GB 1st Coolmore Fusaichi Pegasus Matron 8th Sept 1 1600 IRE 149 115 M Turf Echo of Light (GB) 5 H S bin Suroor GB 1st TurfTV Strensall 5th Sept 3 1789 GB 149 115 E Turf Erimo Expire (JPN) 4 C R. Okubo JPN 2nd Tenno Sho (Spring) 29th Apr 1 3200 JPN 149 115 I Dirt Field Rouge (JPN) 5 H M. Nishizono JPN 2nd Japan Cup Dirt 24th Nov 1 2100 JPN 149 115 S Turf Garnica (FR) 4 C J-C. Rouget FR 1st Prix de Meautry 26th Aug 3 1200 FR 149 115 M Turf Golden Titus (IRE) 3 C A. Renzoni ITY 2nd Premio Vittorio di Capua 21st Oct 1 1600 ITY 149 115 L Turf Halicarnassus (IRE) 3 C M.R. Channon GB 1st Dubai Duty Free Arc Trial 21st Sept 3 2200 GB 149 115 L Turf Honey Ryder (USA) 6 F T.A. Pletcher USA 1st/2nd/2nd Sheepshead Bay H/United Nations/Emirates Airlines Breeders' Cup Filly & Mare Turf 26th May/7th Aug/27th Oct 2/1/1 2200 USA 149 115 E Turf Honolulu (IRE) 3 C A.P. 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Kilroe Mile H 3rd Mar 1 1600 USA 115 S Dirt 1st Commonwealth BC 14th Apr 2 1400 USA 149 115 L Turf Silkwood (GB) 3 F M.A. Jarvis GB 1st Ribblesdale 21st June 1 2400 GB 149 115 S Dirt Silver Wagon (USA) 6 H R.E. Dutrow Jr USA 1st Carter H 7th Apr 1 1400 USA 149 115 I Turf Stage Gift (IRE) 4 G I. Mohammed/S bin Suroor UAE/GB 1st Skybet York 28th July 2 2080 GB 149 115 M Dirt Stormello (USA) 3 C W.L. Currin USA 2nd Fountain of Youth 3rd Mar 2 1800 USA 149 115 M Dirt Sun Boat (USA) 5 H M.R. Mitchell USA 2nd Californian 2nd June 2 1800 USA 149 115 M Dirt Sunrise Bacchus (JPN) 5 H H. Otonashi JPN 1st February 18th Feb 1 1600 JPN 149 115 M Dirt Take d'Tour (USA) 6 M D. Fawkes USA 1st Ogden Phipps 16th June 1 1700 USA 149 115 M Turf Tariq (GB) 3 C P.W. Chapple-Hyam GB 1st Jersey/Lennox - Betfair Cup 20th June/31st July 3/2 1400 GB 149 115 I Turf Tashelka (FR) 3 F A. Fabre FR 1st Prix de la Nonette 19th Aug 3 2000 FR 149 115 E Turf Tokai Trick (JPN) 5 H S. 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Look, it didn't write it. This list is compiled by some of the most knowledgable people around the world in this sport. If this is the list they have come up with, I'm prepared to go with what they say.
You always go on about your beloved HK horses, but truth is, most of them aren't as good as many european or american horses. Take Viva Pataca for instance. He was just a handicapper in England, yet he can win multiple Gr1 races in HK. The racing there is fantastic, don't get me wrong, it is probably the best racing package available and is certainly closing in on Europe and America, but at the moment, the horses aren't quite as good as the best available from Europe and America. Give it a few years and that will more than likely change. These rankings are compiled by people from all around the world, so don't think it's done by people who don't like racing in the Far East. You didn't rate Manduro, and that is your opinion, but he was the best horse on the planet last year, period. EDIT: why does Echelon deserve to be higher? I agree about Ramonti, but as I say, the people that have done this know FAR more than either me or you or anyone else on here.
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I've said nothing about Manduro being #1... don't you think if i had a problem with that I'd have said so?
Does he deserve it? Not sure. Was i a big fan (and am I a big Viva pataca fan?). No. They're both awfully good though. What the hell does HK have to do in the world to be considered as equal? What about Vengeance of Rain for God sake? Yeah yeah, they know, they're experts BUT I think it's disgraceful that he was left off, that Miss Andretti is soooo far down, etc. Hey, it's only my opinion though.
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HK and Japan are improving at a rate faster than most other countries. As I say, give them a few more years and it will be their horses close to the top of the tree. It's also the fact that only a very small percentage of American and British horses go out there. So it's very hard to see who is best. This post is probably as clear as mud, but I hope some of you understand it.
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Never bet a horse who Gallant Bloom has played. (I'm ready for the backlash, don't worry....... I need to say something outlandish for her to speak to me)
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funny that Asiatic Boy's rating of 117 is based on his 4th in the Sussex stakes last year and not on his UAE Derby performance which certainly looked better. I was thinking about him the other night and the more i think about his summer in Europe the more of a shambles I think it was. Even thinking about running over 10f in soft ground against pretty much the best Europe has to offer was just crazy. The first priority should have been quick ground which he would have got at Ascot (which was his original plan) or Leopardstown just after the Juddmonte. They even could have waited and given him an entry in HK.
I wouldn't heavily disagree with any of the rankings.. Ramonti is the type of horse that will always get a low enough rating as he just beats opponents by enough a la Giants Causeway.
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I don't think De Kock handled Asiatic Boy very well at all. Ascot would have been perfect for him, but the excuse was that they wanted more time to get him race fit, but then the excuse at Goodwood was that he still wasn't fit enough.
It was a shame we had such a wash out over the summer. I think the ratings are almost spot on from what I have seen over the last year. I think Ramonti does deserve to be one or two points higher, no matter how tight his races are, it's the horses he has beaten that impresses me. I don't think English Channel deserves the rating he has been given. Swap him and Ramonti around and I think that would be correct. Also, swap Hard Spun and Any Given Saturday around in my opinion. As I said before, these people know what they're talking about, so I'm prepared to agree with their verdict.
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remember to ignore silly boy this weekend. hopefully he gets a different jock. nunes sucks. this list sucks u suck. 
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Was the "u suck" comment aimed at me? Why am I guess you were looking in a mirror when you wrote this? 
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