Tampa Pick 4/ 1-17-08

[GPK]

Nice to see Dan's boy, Craig Phillip Faine, continue his hot streak at the meet ( 33 0 0 0 .00)


Big Ticket $192

2,5,7,8/1,6,8,9/1,3,8,9,10/6,8

Small Ticket $48

2,5,7,8/1,8,9/1,8,9,10/6

[Bigsmc]

Overnight rains will most likely trigger them to take the races off the turf today. I will be shocked if they stay on at the beginning of 4 consecutive racing days. My P4 will be posted after the changes.

Nice to see Kev back...

GL all.

[ddthetide]

Originally Posted by Bigsmc

Nice to see Kev back...

musta been in williamsburg lookin to buy colonial downs.

[Rudeboyelvis]

What Bigs said

Got about an inch of rain here overnight - expected off the turf

Welcome Back GPK!!

Picks after Changes

[Bigsmc]

Rudeboy's Sig.....

You are not an Army of One Dan. I appreciate the heck out of CPF. He gives me an instantaneous throw out in each race which helps me handicap quicker.

[GPK]

Thanks boys...good to be back.

And I second what Bigs said..Im a HUGE fan of CPF. Gotta love the automatic tosses...especially when he is riding for the always dangerous Peter Wasiluk


3-4 inches of snow already has fallen here this morning....the valley has essentially shut down. GPK is gonna have waaaaay too much time on his hands today.

[Rudeboyelvis]

>>>Craig Phillip Faine, continue his hot streak at the meet ( 33 0 0 0 .00)<<<

Just don't leave him off your super tickets because he's got two 4ths so far...Hopefully this shall not reenergize him and deter his quest for perfection



I talked with B. Jeffries this morning, he said the track is sloppy and that they've already taken the races off the turf

[Rudeboyelvis]

Tampa Bay Downs Scratches

1/17/2008

Race # Horse # Name
1 1 Barney Smith (POE)
4 9 Doc Tour
5 8 Spectacular Zip
5 1a Pyrite Marci (POE)
9 5 Bo's Secret Storm
9 6 Mabou
9 11 Prineofthestage
9 12 Massasoit
9 14 Sand Slider

[Rudeboyelvis]

Big Ticket - 4,5,7,9//3,6,8,9//1,2,8,13//2,6,8 192.00
Small Tik - 4,5,7,9//3,6,8,9//1,2,8,13//2 64.00

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Tampa Bay Downs Scratches

1/17/2008

Race # Horse # Name
1 1 Barney Smith (POE)
4 9 Doc Tour
5 8 Spectacular Zip
5 1a Pyrite Marci (POE)
9 5 Bo's Secret Storm
9 6 Mabou
9 11 Prineofthestage
9 12 Massasoit
9 14 Sand Slider

They are saying the main is "good"

[Bigsmc]

Pick 4

Small ticket:

2,3,4,7/1,6/1,9,13/2,6 = $48

Big ticket:

2,3,4,5,7/1,6,8/1,2,9,13/2,6,8 = $180

Finally feeling better. May actually get out to the track tomorrow.

Gonna hit this sucka today.

GL

[Thoroughbred Fan]

I played 4,5,7,9WT # 1,6,8WT # 1,2,4,9WT # 2,6

[MISTERGEE]

for those of you who watch races at tbd religiously is faine that horrifying or does he just ride all longshots or both? one thing i have noticed in the time ive seen him ride he blows everything right to the front and saves nothing

[Thoroughbred Fan]

All the jocks are horrible. They let that mule run away with that race.

[GPK]

LI Ice Tea was had never hit the board in 6 trips around Tampa...

garbage.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Wow...just Wow... P4 pays 3 of 4...

CPF watch: Has a mount in the 3rd on Saturday, Ide Be 0 for Ten...the horse has a similar record as the rider - 1 for 85 ...Can't help it - got to admire the guy's "Never Quit" attitude

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by MISTERGEE

for those of you who watch races at tbd religiously is faine that horrifying or does he just ride all longshots or both? one thing i have noticed in the time ive seen him ride he blows everything right to the front and saves nothing

He's that bad. He some how manages to get logical mounts and screws them up as equally he does the longshots...It's really something to witness.

[SentToStud]

Faine is pretty bad.

Faine last 12 months:

Tot Starts 404
Ave odds per starter 39-1
Wins 8
Ave Odds per winner 12-1

Routes
Starts 93
Wins 0

132 of his rides were for one trainer, Peter Wasiluk who has won about 9-10%of his 287 total starts with average Odds/Winner of 8-1. Many of the Wasiluk/Faine starters are owned or co-owned by the trainer.

Wasiluk with "Faine off" at both Tampa and Delaware has been a good thing for a few years now. Especially at Tampa. The numbers are even better for non-Wasiluk owned horses. Even better yet for those going long.

I also believe Faine has a hard time tacking less than 122, so that doesn't help.

8 for 404 is pretty significant. He's pretty bad, but keep an eye on the trainer's runners with a different rider.