4/5 (AQU): Gr. I Wood & Carter; Bay Shore; Excelsior

[Kasept]

7th (4:09) Bay Shore S. (G3)

7 Furlongs | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $150,000

1 Magical Forest Velasquez C 120 L
2 Make the Point Coa E M 116 L
3 Gattopardo Pimentel J 118 L
4 Laysh Laysh Laysh Pino M G 118 L
5 Go Go Shoot Garcia Alan 120 L
6 Double Down Vinman Rose J 118 L
7 Jockey Ridge Prado E S 116 L
8 J Be K Gomez G K 118 L



8th (4:42) Excelsior H. (G3)

1 1/8 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $200,000

1 Malibu Moonshine Pino M G 114 L
2 Magna Graduate Gomez G K 117 Blk-Off L
3 Nite Light Luzzi M J 116 L
4 Angliana Garcia Alan 114 L
5 Temporary Saint Lopez C C 113 L
6 Naughty New Yorker Samyn J L 115 L
7 Evening Attire Prado E S 114 L
8 Mayan King Hill C 113 L
9 Wafi City Velasquez C 114 L



9th (5:15) Wood Memorial S. (G1)

1 1/8 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $750,000

2 Texas Wildcatter Coa E M 123 L
3 Spurrier Elliott S 123 L
1 Court Vision Gomez G K 123 L
4 First Commandment Luzzi M J 123 L
5 War Pass Velasquez C 123 L
6 Roman Emperor Rose J 123 Blk-Off L
7 Giant Moon Chavez J F 123 L
8 Tale of Ekati Prado E S 123 L
1a Inner Light Lopez C C 123 L
9 Anak Nakal Garcia Alan 123 Blk-On L



10th (5:50) Carter H. (G1)

7 Furlongs | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $300,000

1 Lord Snowdon Rose J 115 L
2 King of the Roxy Velasquez C 115 L
3 Stormin Normandy Rodriguez R R 115 L
4 City Attraction Luzzi M J 115 L
5 Ryan's for Real Coa E M 114 L
6 Spring At Last Gomez G K 121 L
7 Not for Money Hill C 114 L
8 Premium Wine Garcia Alan 114 L
9 Bustin Stones Prado E S 116 FTL
10 Executive Fleet Lopez C C 114 L

[jcs11204]

whos runs with war pass early ? i want to try to beat him, i like giant moon, roman emperor, and a few others, but does it even matter ? if no one runs with war pass early, can he be defeated ?

[jcs11204]

i think laysh gets a perfect setup in the bayshore, but i will respect j be k, on the cutback and drop down.

[jcs11204]

looks like kiran controls the 8th, with Angliana and wafi city, if wafi runs back to his last he crushes these, but he also could bounce, im going to say he does but still goes fast early and sets it up for Angliana

[ateamstupid]

If the track is dry, War Pass is beatable. If not, I don't think he looks back.

[jcs11204]

carter is brutal in my opinion, what to make of spring at last ? why not dubai ? he gives weight to all, i dont know, its a hard way to end the pick 4

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

If the track is dry, War Pass is beatable. If not, I don't think he looks back.

its such a hard decision... key him in the pick 4 or go deep ? it can help make or ruin your day, because i dont see any other single anywhere in the sequence

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by jcs11204

its such a hard decision... key him in the pick 4 or go deep ? it can help make or ruin your day, because i dont see any other single anywhere in the sequence

Dry track, I go about three- or four-deep. Wet track, I single War Pass in the Pick Four and maybe hedge in a Pick Three.

This is after a cursory glance at the card though. Once I get the TG numbers, I'm gonna do a write-up of the stakes and see what jumps out at me.

Texas Wildcutter with a bigtime jock improvement. Just seeing the trouble line last out makes my blood boil.

Originally Posted by jcs11204

whos runs with war pass early ? i want to try to beat him, i like giant moon, roman emperor, and a few others, but does it even matter ? if no one runs with war pass early, can he be defeated ?

Inner Light will run with him...maybe. If not it's lights out.

[fpsoxfan]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Texas Wildcutter with a bigtime jock improvement. Just seeing the trouble line last out makes my blood boil.

Oh..you too? Maybe this time the jock will keep riding the horse all the way to the wire?

[fpsoxfan]

Outside of War Pass, I'll be interested in seeing how Texas Wildcatter, Court Vison and Tale Of Ekati figure into this mess. IMO this shapes up to be one of the more intriguing races of the campaign.

[NTamm1215]

Maybe I'm naive in thinking so, but isn't Inner Light in there just to run with War Pass? He has the exact same ownership (IEAH AND WinStar) and really has little chance to win the race outright. It's also awfully precarious that they put Chucky Lopez on him. That means he will most likely be gunned, if Chucky can get him out of the gate.

NT

[declansharbor]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Maybe I'm naive in thinking so, but isn't Inner Light in there just to run with War Pass? He has the exact same ownership (IEAH AND WinStar) and really has little chance to win the race outright. It's also awfully precarious that they put Chucky Lopez on him. That means he will most likely be gunned, if Chucky can get him out of the gate.

NT

I'm also under the assumption that InNer Light was entered to ensure there is a quick pace and that War Pass does not get an uncontested lead. C Lo pretty much seals the deal as he's going to ride like a bat out of hell.

[letswastemoney]

Nite Light must think he's sprinting by only being in a 9 furlong race instead of the insane distances he specializes in.

[jcs11204]

if inner light goes, which it seems like he will, he actually should be sent hard with cc, i feel the next most likely winner is court vision,

[philcski]

You know, I have this odd feeling about War Pass. There's a horse that he REALLY reminded me of last year, between his progression and absolute domination of his competition at 2 with monster figures. Unfortunately, at 3, he's again followed the same progression as the other champion.

[Pedigree Ann]

The difference between War Pass and Devil's Bag is that DB was bred to run long and improve with age, whereas War Pass isn't. DB was a full brother to Glorious Song (a champion at 4 and 5) and to Saint Ballado (won the Arlington Classic at 3), so a dominant 3yo campaign could reasonably be expected. War Pass's stakes winning half-sister Oath was a G1 winner at 2 who didn't train on at 3, and we haven't seen Cherokee Runs (like Kafwain) get better with age.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

I was thinking the same thing. I was merely pointing out the distinct correlation between the two in when and where they ran and how they did in those races.

The fact is, pedigree or not, Devil's Bag did NOT get better with age- he ran slower as a 3yo and lost to horses he destroyed at 2.

In my opinion, pedigree is a great tool to determine what should happen when horses try new things, but once he/she attempts a new task that actual performance should take precedence over pedigree.