draw a line through it

[ShadowRoll]

It seems that, no matter who you back for the Derby this year, you're going to have to say this about at least one race.

[ArlJim78]

except for Big Brown.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

except for Big Brown.

that will come may 4

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

that will come may 4

Gonna be pretty ballsy to run him the day after the Derby.

[Slewstoo]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Gonna be pretty ballsy to run him the day after the Derby.

[jcs11204]

lol....... actually
what has cowboy cal done wrong ?
intresting huh ? look at his pp's.

[jcs11204]

excuse me first time out he can bad. but thats about 7 months ago.... also at saratogs where you face the best babies in the world. and it was his first start.

[2Hot4TV]

Originally Posted by ShadowRoll

It seems that, no matter who you back for the Derby this year, you're going to have to say this about at least one race.

Where do we draw the line in Gayego's races?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

his 2nd lifetime race...

Every other one has been excellent.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV

Where do we draw the line in Gayego's races?

You mean aside from the one where he was on the lead through six furlongs in 1:11 and was still all out to hold off the legendary Z Fortune?

[2Hot4TV]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

that will come may 4

Too much wine.

[miraja2]

I'm going to draw a line through the entire year.

[2Hot4TV]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

You mean aside from the one where he was on the lead through six furlongs in 1:11 and was still all out to hold off the legendary Z Fortune?

What's wrong with 1:11 for 6f going 1 1/8 and still being able to hold off all runners?

[ShadowRoll]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

except for Big Brown.

Yeah, except for Big Brown.

With BB now the likely favorite, the one thing I can definately say about my Derby tickets at this point is that he will not be in the top two spots. He is the very definition of a vulnerable favorite.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by ShadowRoll

Yeah, except for Big Brown.

With BB now the likely favorite, the one thing I can definately say about my Derby tickets at this point is that he will not be in the top two spots. He is the very definition of a vulnerable favorite.

very true, he's vulnerable. but on the other hand he's turned in the most impressive performances of any of them.

[2Hot4TV]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

very true, he's vulnerable. but on the other hand he's turned in the most impressive performances of any of them.

and has every right to improve off of his inexperiance.

I wasn't using him in the derby anyways. Sucker bet that'll be crushed in the exotics.

[sumitas]

i'm drawing a line through this thread ...the derby appears to be wide open with cases to be made for many of the starters.

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

very true, he's vulnerable. but on the other hand he's turned in the most impressive performances of any of them.

So did Bellamy Road a few years back...remember where he finished.

[Danzig]

seems most horses have a performance that is inexplicable. colonel john seems strongest from the west-but to be perfectly honest, i don't want to see a awt horse win the derby. i'm sure someone(s) will jump on me for that, but like i said, i'm being honest-and that's my feeling on it.
doesn't mean it won't happen. i also don't want to see a horse with less lifetime starts then i have fingers on one hand win it-i don't want the lightly raced horse to become even more of a trend.

many of the horses have a head scratcher. or maybe not. perhaps war pass' rotten clunker, and his only out of the money finish, was due to a change in surface. same could be said of pyro today, who has done nothing wrong in much of his career. so what changed? easy to say in his case. dirt to poly according to the talking heads on tv said that dirt to poly is much more difficult then vice versa. gayego and sierra sunset bear that out, maybe yankee bravo as well to be honest. he went poly to dirt, and finished third to pyro. then he goes back to poly and ran his worst race ever in the santa anita derby.


interesting derby coming up. i wonder if giacomo will lose his title of 'worst derby winner ever'? well, not ever-i still think gato del sol was worse, but memories for some here are short.