The SUNS are a ****IN JOKE: Barbosa and Diaw are INEPT

[the_fat_man]

What a ****in display of ineptitude. In a third quarter highlighted by an inability to make a layup or pull rebounds, the SUNS insisted on putting the ball in the hands of Barbosa or Diaw. And, the idiot Doug Collins is going on and on about the D of the Spurs. Doug, wake the **** up, if you can't make a layup you really shouldn't be playing in the pros.

Barbosa has yet to make a layup when it counts and Diaw can't hit a jumper. Yet, every time I look up, Barbosa is driving to the hoop AND MISSING, and Diaw is hoisting up 20 footers.

I used to think that Al Harrington was the worst player in the league at crunch time; but these two are just flat out CLOWNS.

And the biggest DOOFUS of all is D'Antoni, who can't get his head out of ass and take these jokers out.

D'Antoni needs to go.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

brick brick.... brick brick brick.......Reminds me of the MAVS in the finals.

What the hell were they thinking including Diaw in the offense in the 4th? He completely killed their momentum with that travel. Terrible. It's like they don't want to win. The head coach, who looks like an alternate tenor in a barbershop quartet, needs to instruct Nash to carry the team late in the 4th. Especially when they're down double digits.

[Cannon Shell]

For those that dont watch the NBA much the Suns aren't that good but offense isnt the issue. Outside of Bell and Grant Hill they dont even bother much on the other end.

Diaw is awful

The Suns are a Much more capable team of beating San Antonio
this year. Shaq is much better on Duncan than anything
last year.

One HUGE problem is Nash. He is way too slow for Parker.
How many frggn layups do you give Parker before you decide
to switch. Nash just cant stay with Parker. San Antonio
is making so may easy baskets from simple pick and roll
penetration. Then Shaq and Amare have to really watch
helping out because they get into foul trouble quickly.
Of course they do when everyone and their mother is penetrating.

So the very first line of defense, trying to stop the other
team from penetrating, breaks down immediately for the Suns. This is why
I like PG's that can play D.

Put someone else on Parker.
Dont let Nash get near Parker late in the game.
Ginobili is also getting to the basket way too easily.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by pgardn

The Suns are a Much more capable team of beating San Antonio
this year. Shaq is much better on Duncan than anything
last year.

One HUGE problem is Nash. He is way too slow for Parker.
How many frggn layups do you give Parker before you decide
to switch. Nash just cant stay with Parker. San Antonio
is making so may easy baskets from simple pick and roll
penetration. Then Shaq and Amare have to really watch
helping out because they get into foul trouble quickly.
Of course they do when everyone and their mother is penetrating.

So the very first line of defense, trying to stop the other
team from penetrating, breaks down immediately for the Suns. This is why
I like PG's that can play D.

Put someone else on Parker.
Dont let Nash get near Parker late in the game.
Ginobili is also getting to the basket way too easily.

Nash has always been a liability on defense. But Phoenix doesnt play good help defense mainly because Shaq is not very mobile anymore, Stoudamire is always out of position, Barbosa would rather release on the break and they miss Marion who could guard almost anyone on the court. Shaq and company havent really done much with Duncan who is averaging 29 and 16 on 54% shooting. What they should do is lay Parker out a few times.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Nash has always been a liability on defense. But Phoenix doesnt play good help defense mainly because Shaq is not very mobile anymore, Stoudamire is always out of position, Barbosa would rather release on the break and they miss Marion who could guard almost anyone on the court. Shaq and company havent really done much with Duncan who is averaging 29 and 16 on 54% shooting. What they should do is lay Parker out a few times.

Marion is great in the regular season.
But playoff time was choke time for him.
Problem is that Duncan just murders Amare.
Shaq got 40 put on him by Duncan while on the bench
and then in foul trouble last quarter.
They are not giving Shaq any help though.
But I guess they dont help much on the whole anyway.

The Phoenix team is very capable.
I think D'Antoni is setting the right mental
tone for once in that he is not giving up.
And they have layed Parker down.
Got him seeing double after the first game.
Shaq body blocked him into the wood 2nd game.
They have hit him pretty good without quite going
flagrant. Ginobili, who is a great actor, got very close
to sending Barbosa away (Barbosa swung at him on the
ground). The league reviewed it and decided no suspension.
I thought Barbosa might be gone.

I am still waiting to see how the NBA will handle
having the Spurs in the finals. I dont see how they
cannot try and get SA out.

The world wants Boston against LA. The ratings
and the NBA want this. I am not a conspiracy guy,
but I cant see how Stern can possibly be pleased
with San Antonio in the Finals again.

The NBA does not advertise good basketball, why the heck would
they want a real team in the Finals. Boston supplies that
with viewership, with dunks, and bravado. The Spurs dont shoot off their
mouths enough, or dunk enough. Duncan can whine, but he
is not going to stick his massive hand in his face and do some
Soulja boy dance. He will not call Shaq an idiot
or try whistling while Shaq
is shooting fouls. Spurs are just not Jerry Springer enough
for the masses. Too little playground also. Way too many
normal people who happen to be good basketball players.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Marion is great in the regular season.
But playoff time was choke time for him.
Problem is that Duncan just murders Amare.
Shaq got 40 put on him by Duncan while on the bench
and then in foul trouble last quarter.
They are not giving Shaq any help though.
But I guess they dont help much on the whole anyway.

The Phoenix team is very capable.
I think D'Antoni is setting the right mental
tone for once in that he is not giving up.
And they have layed Parker down.
Got him seeing double after the first game.
Shaq body blocked him into the wood 2nd game.
They have hit him pretty good without quite going
flagrant. Ginobili, who is a great actor, got very close
to sending Barbosa away (Barbosa swung at him on the
ground). The league reviewed it and decided no suspension.
I thought Barbosa might be gone.

I am still waiting to see how the NBA will handle
having the Spurs in the finals. I dont see how they
cannot try and get SA out.

The world wants Boston against LA. The ratings
and the NBA want this. I am not a conspiracy guy,
but I cant see how Stern can possibly be pleased
with San Antonio in the Finals again.

The NBA does not advertise good basketball, why the heck would
they want a real team in the Finals. Boston supplies that
with viewership, with dunks, and bravado. The Spurs dont shoot off their
mouths enough, or dunk enough. Duncan can whine, but he
is not going to stick his massive hand in his face and do some
Soulja boy dance. He will not call Shaq an idiot
or try whistling while Shaq
is shooting fouls. Spurs are just not Jerry Springer enough
for the masses. Too little playground also. Way too many
normal people who happen to be good basketball players.

I disagree that Phoenix is capable. They cant guard inside out. If they play tight perimeter defense, the guards of SA carve them up. They know they cant leave Ginobilli or even Finley open on the perimeter and as a result cant offer much help on Duncan who can find the open man. The Suns will lose tonight unless Stern calls for the Duncan in foul trouble scenario to help the ratings.

Boston is a good team

[whodey17]

Phoenix is not good at all. They had the worse record of the western conference playoff teams against teams in the western conference.

I am starting to wonder if Detroit is in trouble.

[whodey17]

Parker is on fire early in the game. He may have a 30 pt 15 assist night.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I disagree that Phoenix is capable. They cant guard inside out. If they play tight perimeter defense, the guards of SA carve them up. They know they cant leave Ginobilli or even Finley open on the perimeter and as a result cant offer much help on Duncan who can find the open man. The Suns will lose tonight unless Stern calls for the Duncan in foul trouble scenario to help the ratings.

Boston is a good team

You picked the Spurs 4-3 in a great series?
Ya crazy man. I think that makes Phoenix capable.
Unless they both are crappy.

And I think there are a lot worse teams in the West
than Phoenix.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by pgardn

You picked the Spurs 4-3 in a great series?
Ya crazy man. I think that makes Phoenix capable.
Unless they both are crappy.

And I think there are a lot worse teams in the West
than Phoenix.

I was wrong. If you watch them you can see they just cant stop anybody. They are done, Kerr is done and D' Antoni will get another year and then be done. Nash, Shaq and Grant Hill will soon be done. The really are just the Sac Kings of the late 90's.

Phoenix is not good on D.

But the Spurs shot the hell out of the ball.
This is the best shooting game they have had
all year, numbers be damned. This is a playoff
game and they just hit all of their jumpers. The game
becomes very easy if most of your shots go down.
You look like a great team and Popovich looks like
a genius.

That is the bottom line of game 3.
Spurs shot extraordinarily well.
I have never seen Parker make this many
jump shots. He drove them silly game 2. They
back off to shut down the drive, he hits everything.

Shaq against Duncan is irrelevant with Parker doing
as he pleases.

The PG's in the West make the East look pitiful
at this position (D.Wade playing hurtthis year).
Alston returns and McGrady
gets to actually play his game, Houston wins.
Houston is so much better with this guy.

Maybe Rose should be #1 in the draft,
even if it takes a year to get acclimated.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by pgardn

I have never seen Parker make this many
jump shots.

I have...last June in fact!! Made a ton of them...finals MVP I believe...his outside shooting played a big role in that.

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Originally Posted by pgardn

I have never seen Parker make this many
jump shots.

I have...last June in fact!! Made a ton of them...finals MVP I believe...his outside shooting played a big role in that.

He scored 40 points?
Which game of that series?

[whodey17]

Howard from Orlando would be a Sr in college this year. What a joke that would be.

[the_fat_man]

What I particularly enjoyed is that the PUNK, Barbosa, had a decent effort in game 3. Of course, it didn't ****in matter, as the rest of the team was sleepwalking. If the PUNK plays decently in games 1 and 2, the Suns win at least 1 in San Antonio.

But that's the way PUNKS play; they never step up when it matters and flaunt it when it doesn't. Look at Al Harrington, for example; AL NEVER makes 2 free throws in crunch time. He always gets you one; which amounts to ****. But he's really good at making 3's when it doesn't matter.

Barbosa must hold the record for most years leading the league in blown layups.

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

What I particularly enjoyed is that the PUNK, Barbosa, had a decent effort in game 3. Of course, it didn't ****in matter, as the rest of the team was sleepwalking. If the PUNK plays decently in games 1 and 2, the Suns win at least 1 in San Antonio.

But that's the way PUNKS play; they never step up when it matters and flaunt it when it doesn't. Look at Al Harrington, for example; AL NEVER makes 2 free throws in crunch. He always gets you one; which amounts to ****. But he's really good at making 3's when it doesn't matter.

Barbosa must hold the record for most years leading the league in blown layups.

Barbosa was shocked after the NBA looked closely at the tapes when he pulled Ginobili down and swung at him. He was shocked they looked at the replay. The little jerk asked if the Spurs asked for the review and Popovich said he should know better. The NBA looks at all the plays that look flagrant, whether guys like Mark Cuban request it or not.
The Spurs did like the guy. But he knows that he yanked Ginobili down. I know Ginobili is a good flop artist, but that does not mean you just pull him to the ground and take a swing. It was replayed and it is quite apparent what he did. Pulled Ginobili down and missed with his elbow on the ground. You think these guys would know the cameras are everywhere.

Hindsight is 20/20 but it looks like that first loss
Phoenix took in SA had a large effect. If that 1st
game had been won by the Suns... ya never know.
The Suns have really cratered. Lets see if they show
some guts and win game 4. So much of this game
involves confidence and the ability to perservere.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Phoenix is not good on D.

But the Spurs shot the hell out of the ball.
This is the best shooting game they have had
all year, numbers be damned. This is a playoff
game and they just hit all of their jumpers. The game
becomes very easy if most of your shots go down.
You look like a great team and Popovich looks like
a genius.

That is the bottom line of game 3.
Spurs shot extraordinarily well.
I have never seen Parker make this many
jump shots. He drove them silly game 2. They
back off to shut down the drive, he hits everything.

Shaq against Duncan is irrelevant with Parker doing
as he pleases.

The PG's in the West make the East look pitiful
at this position (D.Wade playing hurtthis year).
Alston returns and McGrady
gets to actually play his game, Houston wins.
Houston is so much better with this guy.

Maybe Rose should be #1 in the draft,
even if it takes a year to get acclimated.

It is not hard to shoot well when no one guards you.

D Wade is not a PG

[Cannon Shell]

The way Ginobilli and Parker have torched them I dont blame them for punching them