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Old 10-07-2008, 11:40 AM
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I thought that it about time we all focus on the upsides for the Breeders Cup. Maybe its too early maybe not.

My first upside ....is the weather. Its highly doubtful that it is going to "down pour" like Monmouth last year. The downside, for me, is that I did do very well with the sloppy and yelding tracks.

Serious or less Serious is fine with me...I leave it to each of you to sort out which may be good upsides or not.
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Old 10-07-2008, 11:54 AM
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There is not enough upside in the world to change the biggest downside that there is. The Synthetic Pro Ride Surface.

By the way, while it was pouring in Jersey last year. Wasn't a large section of California on fire?
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Old 10-07-2008, 12:12 PM
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There is not enough upside in the world to change the biggest downside that there is. The Synthetic Pro Ride Surface.

By the way, while it was pouring in Jersey last year. Wasn't a large section of California on fire?
Proride is fire proof
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Old 10-07-2008, 12:27 PM
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They generally don't have to worry about rain for the BC at Santa Anita because the Cup is run during "fire season." The monsoon usually starts around Christmas, followed by "mud season" when the canyons collapse because the fires killed all the trees. If the frogs and locusts show up, I recommend leaving...
Last time I was in Cali for the Cup, the Malibu fires were so bad I could see the smoke from Santa Barbara when I took a midweek overnight trip.
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Old 10-07-2008, 01:14 PM
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the upside..i will not be there
the downside ..2 days instead of 1 and the pro-ride
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Old 10-07-2008, 01:34 PM
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The upside for me is I won't be at all concerned with losing much money on the BC races this year or next...
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Old 10-07-2008, 01:52 PM
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The upside for me is I won't be at all concerned with losing much money on the BC races this year or next...
Same for me.

Not that the BC cares....
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Old 10-07-2008, 01:53 PM
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I thought that it about time we all focus on the upsides for the Breeders Cup. Maybe its too early maybe not.

My first upside ....is the weather. Its highly doubtful that it is going to "down pour" like Monmouth last year. The downside, for me, is that I did do very well with the sloppy and yelding tracks.

Serious or less Serious is fine with me...I leave it to each of you to sort out which may be good upsides or not.
I'm sticking to my vow to not bet the Breeders Cup in protest of the creation of b.s. races to puff up the two-day schedule in order to make more money, and in protest of "ladies day," which forces you to buy tickets for both days if you want to see the best fillies and mares as well as the best colts and horses, and in protest of the apparent intent to never run it anywhere, in the future, other than Santa Anita, Belmont and, maybe CD.

Incidentally, Jay Cronley also claimed, in his most recent article, that the mud was kind to him last year at Monmouth: http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/hor...jay&id=3629870
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Old 10-07-2008, 03:04 PM
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The upside is that within just a few short weeks, it will be over.
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Old 10-07-2008, 03:40 PM
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The past couple of years I have gambled more on Breeders Cup day then any other day of the year. Not this year. I have averaged pushing close to $300 thru the windows on this day, this year I doubt I will push $100. One real simple reason, the surface.

Not too mention I hate the fact they have it split over two days.
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Old 10-07-2008, 04:25 PM
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Proride is fire proof
Bahahahaha!

The upside is, as always, with huge numbers of fairweather fans and curious onlookers betting into the pools there will be tremendous value to be had. Especially if the more serious students of the game can find an edge with this new "fireproof" surface.

Bahahahaha!
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Old 10-07-2008, 05:49 PM
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Bahahahaha!

The upside is, as always, with huge numbers of fairweather fans and curious onlookers betting into the pools there will be tremendous value to be had. Especially if the more serious students of the game can find an edge with this new "fireproof" surface.

Bahahahaha!
Finally somebody that makes a little since.
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Old 10-07-2008, 06:30 PM
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I'm sticking to my vow to not bet the Breeders Cup in protest of the creation of b.s. races to puff up the two-day schedule in order to make more money, and in protest of "ladies day," which forces you to buy tickets for both days if you want to see the best fillies and mares as well as the best colts and horses, and in protest of the apparent intent to never run it anywhere, in the future, other than Santa Anita, Belmont and, maybe CD.
Yes, the Breeders' Cup is trying to make more money...

Yes, the two-day schedule is puffed up, currently...

I look at it this way: they're trying to expand their business and not doing it very smoothly. I know there will be some dilution of the product, but maybe in a few years we'll wonder what all the fuss was about (if they are successful).

I still haven't figured out the Cushion Track, or PolyTrack, or Tapeta, let alone the Pro-Ride. But I'm still going to bet it, because there are opportunities to bet good horses at long odds.

Churchill Downs has the Oaks on Friday and the Derby on Saturday. Breeders' Cup is trying to keep the same format in an expanded mode. I think Friday (Ladies' Day) will probably be less crazy, so I may go that day, and bet online on Saturday. Even though I live in Southern California and could go both days without too much problem (except for my dislike of crowds).
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Old 10-07-2008, 06:33 PM
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Upside: horse racing... you get to bet on it....

Downside: the crowds... but that means the payouts are bigger... (more upside)
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Old 10-07-2008, 06:47 PM
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Bahahahaha!

The upside is, as always, with huge numbers of fairweather fans and curious onlookers betting into the pools there will be tremendous value to be had. Especially if the more serious students of the game can find an edge with this new "fireproof" surface.

Bahahahaha!
Maybe we have.
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Old 10-07-2008, 08:54 PM
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Incidentally, Jay Cronley also claimed, in his most recent article, that the mud was kind to him last year at Monmouth: http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/hor...jay&id=3629870
As you saw in the original post....it was very kind to me too.
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Upside: Not working on Saturday and the wife and kids will be gone for the day

Downside: Herkimer OTB is closing for good on Oct. 26th
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Upside: Not working on Saturday and the wife and kids will be gone for the day

Downside: Herkimer OTB is closing for good on Oct. 26th
No ****!!!!!!!!!

The Fort Plain branch can't be too far away.
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Old 10-07-2008, 10:39 PM
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Yep, it's true. Hard to believe, I may even miss that dump. Guess I'll have to drive to McGills and visit Heather
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