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Old 11-02-2008, 10:40 PM
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Default Zenyatta Vs. Nashobas Key Vs. Rags to Riches
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Old 11-02-2008, 10:42 PM
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Go for Wand......in a romp.
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Old 11-02-2008, 10:43 PM
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Would Rags even like synth?
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Old 11-03-2008, 04:00 AM
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zenyatta easy on any surface
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Old 11-03-2008, 04:09 AM
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zenyatta easy on any surface
now wait a second. rags has beaten curlin. no one zenyatta has beaten is as quality as curlin. zenyatta even ducked nashoba's key earlier in the year.
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Old 11-03-2008, 10:09 AM
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Wow.
HR has no clue who or what Go for Wand was..
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Old 11-03-2008, 10:14 AM
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Who would win?
Nashoba's key your kidding right that filly is a nice grade 2 runner period
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Old 11-03-2008, 10:52 AM
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Nashoba's Key was a synthetic monster though.
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Old 11-03-2008, 11:15 AM
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Nashoba's Key was a synthetic monster though.

Yeah the Personal Ensign of poly/cushion track. Please what grade 1 talent did the Monster crush in both her electrifying grade 1 wins?
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Old 11-03-2008, 11:39 AM
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Grade 1 talent:

Hystericalady--Grade 1 winner of more than $2 million
Balance--Grade 1 winner of more than $1 million

I'm not saying that Nashoba's Key was a better animal than R2R or Zenyatta here. All I'm saying is she was a major handful on synthetics.
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Old 11-03-2008, 12:15 PM
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Grade 1 talent:

Hystericalady--Grade 1 winner of more than $2 million
Balance--Grade 1 winner of more than $1 million

I'm not saying that Nashoba's Key was a better animal than R2R or Zenyatta here. All I'm saying is she was a major handful on synthetics.
YOU could outrun Hystericalady on synthetics.
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Old 11-03-2008, 12:30 PM
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YOU could outrun Hystericalady on synthetics.
That is half of what I'm trying to say here.
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Old 11-03-2008, 12:44 PM
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YOU could outrun Hystericalady on synthetics.
Did You ever even run on synthetic? I think she ran before synthetics came along at any major track.
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Old 11-03-2008, 01:07 PM
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Did You ever even run on synthetic? I think she ran before synthetics came along at any major track.
Good point. Perhaps I should have said YOU AND I..........but then I think he was before synthetics too.
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Old 11-03-2008, 01:23 PM
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If it was on synth.....Zenyatta probably would win....NK might win

If it was on dirt....Rags would win

If it was on turf....NK is the only one with experience on turf so she'd probably win
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Old 11-03-2008, 01:25 PM
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Grade 1 talent:

Hystericalady--Grade 1 winner of more than $2 million
Balance--Grade 1 winner of more than $1 million

I'm not saying that Nashoba's Key was a better animal than R2R or Zenyatta here. All I'm saying is she was a major handful on synthetics.
Hystericalady is a super nice filly but clearly not of poly
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Old 11-03-2008, 03:42 PM
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thats what i was thinking, her most impressive victory was on dirt.......
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Old 11-03-2008, 06:51 PM
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What's your deal with Zenyatta? Has she beat you out of a big score or something?
No. I think my analysis is reasonable. I believe on dirt, Kentucky Oaks and Belmont wins are more impressive than Apple Blossom versus one good horse.

On synth, Zenyatta would beat her, not because Zenyatta moves up, but because everyone else seems to move down on those surfaces. But nothing is for certain.
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Old 11-03-2008, 06:56 PM
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No. I think my analysis is reasonable. I believe on dirt, Kentucky Oaks and Belmont wins are more impressive than Apple Blossom versus one good horse.

On synth, Zenyatta would beat her, not because Zenyatta moves up, but because everyone else seems to move down on those surfaces. But nothing is for certain.
but...zenyatta has wins on multiple surfaces, while rags does not. of course rags wasn't able to run much past her belmont score, so who knows what might have been? but i'd say a horse who has a 9 start, 9 win streak, on two surfaces is nothing to sneeze at. and i don't think rags could beat her in a match up. of course, that's pure speculation.
zenyatta beat a deep field in the bc distaff. regardless of the surface she was on, she ran a heck of a race-and it certainly wasn't just dirt horses in there against her.
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lets add Azeri to the mix and see what you guys say
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