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Old 02-11-2009, 03:02 PM
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Default 2/14: Magna 5 (Fritchie-Gr. II)

Magna 5 -- Saturday, February 14


A Laurel 9 4:52 pm

Barbara Fritchie H. (G2)

7 Furlongs | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $150,000

1 Royale Michele Garcia G 113 LA
2 Now It Begins Forrest C W 114 LA
3 Seventh Street Maragh R 114 L
4 By the Light Garcia Luis 120 L
5 Fascinatin' Rhythm Pino M G 113 Blk-On LA
6 SCR
7 Dream Rush Samyn J L 121 L
8 Access Fee Caraballo J C 114 LA



B Santa Anita 4 5:02 pm

7 Furlongs (All Weather Track) | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Allowance | Purse: $53,000

1 Malt Magic Bejarano R 119 L
2 Haraldo (CHI) Talamo J 119 L
3 Cayambe Baze T C 119 L
4 Booted Espinoza V 121 L
5 Aggie Engineer Solis A 121 L
6 Medzendeekron Gomez G K 119 L
7 Goldsville Husbands P 119 L



C Gulfstream 9 5:14 pm

Hallandale Beach S.

1 1/16 Miles (Turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $125,000

1 Duke of Homberg (GB) Garcia Alan 116 L
MTO Jack Spratt Leparoux J R 122 L
3 Beacon Hill Road Bridgmohan J V 116 L
4 Into My Soul Velasquez C 116 L
5 Tamborim Prado E S 122 L
6 Sweetlandofliberty Marquez C H Jr 116 L
7 Swinging Bernie Cruz M R 116 L
8 Lime Rickey Leparoux J R 116 L
9 Grace's Spirit Nunez E O 116 L
10 Adari Trujillo E 120 L



D Golden Gate 4 5:20 pm

6 Furlongs (All Weather Track) | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Allowance Optional Claiming ($50,000) | Purse: $43,000

1 Jack Hes Tops Alvarado F T 123 $50,000 L
2 Norm's Nephew Schvaneveldt C P 123 $50,000 L
3 Texas Wildcatter Gutierrez Mario 122 L
4 Mutak Gold Antongrgi III W 122 L
5 Searchforthetruth Baze R A 122 L
6 Dan the Doctor Man Gomez E 123 L



E Santa Anita 5 5:34 pm

About 6 1/2 Furlongs (Downhill turf) | Fillies | 3 Year Olds Maiden Special Weight | Purse: $45,000

1 Rare Sparkle Sutherland C 121 L
2 Wiggle and a Wink Husbands P 121 L
3 G's Heavenly Union Espinoza V 121 L
4 Ruby Lane Gomez G K 121 L
5 Unknown Heat Olguin G L 121
6 Coracao Beijo Solis A 121 L
7 L. A. Devine Bejarano R 121 L
8 Successful Friend Valdivia J Jr 121 L
9 Princess Quinn Rios J M 121 Blk-Off L
10 Black Magic Mama Rosario J 121 L
11 On Approval Baze T C 121 L
AE Dextera (GER) Blanc B 121 L
AE Indian Pride Baze T C 121
AE Atalanta Velox Talamo J 121 L
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Old 02-11-2009, 03:08 PM
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Magna 5 -- Saturday, February 14

A Laurel 9 4:52 pm

9th (4:21) Barbara Fritchie H. (G2)

7 Furlongs | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $150,000

1 Royale Michele Garcia G 113 LA
2 Now It Begins Forrest C W 114 LA
3 Seventh Street Maragh R 114 L
4 By the Light Garcia Luis 120 L
5 Fascinatin' Rhythm Pino M G 113 Blk-On LA
6 A Rose for You Rose J 115 LA
7 Dream Rush Samyn J L 121 L
8 Access Fee Caraballo J C 114 LA



I've already figured out the first leg without even looking at the PPs.
hit the ALL button. that's the only way I can figure out Laurel this year.
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Old 02-11-2009, 03:41 PM
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I've already figured out the first leg without even looking at the PPs.
hit the ALL button. that's the only way I can figure out Laurel this year.
..... you beat me to it......that track baffles me
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Old 02-11-2009, 04:01 PM
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I've already figured out the first leg without even looking at the PPs.
hit the ALL button. that's the only way I can figure out Laurel this year.
Is Dream Rush that off form that she doesn't tower over these?
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Old 02-11-2009, 04:15 PM
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Is Dream Rush that off form that she doesn't tower over these?
She's won two in a row at Tampa (Allowance and minor stake), go watch her replays on Calracing, I don't think you will be wowed. She was all out to hang on in the Minaret on Jan. 3.
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Old 02-11-2009, 04:23 PM
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Is Dream Rush that off form that she doesn't tower over these?
Taking a quick look at the PPs, she fits, but isn't a standout by any means...especially with all the other speed signed on here.
Doesn't look anything like the horse she was as a 3-year old.
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Old 02-11-2009, 04:56 PM
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fields are a little bit smaller than I would want, but the Hallandale Beach is a cool race.
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Old 02-11-2009, 05:11 PM
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Is Dream Rush that off form that she doesn't tower over these?
Yes
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Old 02-11-2009, 05:55 PM
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I've already figured out the first leg without even looking at the PPs.
hit the ALL button. that's the only way I can figure out Laurel this year.
3,7 should cover it....
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Old 02-11-2009, 10:01 PM
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It's Dream Rush's last start too.

She going to AP Indy.
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Old 02-12-2009, 08:53 PM
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The Dream Rush of 2008 and 2009 is not the same horse who won The Test.
The unknown is 3 Seventh Street. She destroyed much weaker fields in NY and is taking a major class hike. Can she rate and finish strong against the toughest field she's faced? I don't know.

I think Dick Dutrow's horse will come off the pace. By The Light is a confusing horse. However anything Dutrow puts on the track in a wide open race merits respect. If a horse is going to win from off the pace why not Fascinatin' Rhythm? It's her home track and she cuts back in distance. Richard Small can still train a horse with his current stats a statistical anomaly. Access Fee looks like a talented filly. I think she has a good chance in this race.

If I had to put in my wager now I'd go 4,5,8 in leg 1.
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Old 02-12-2009, 09:06 PM
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The Dream Rush of 2008 and 2009 is not the same horse who won The Test.
The unknown is 3 Seventh Street. She destroyed much weaker fields in NY and is taking a major class hike. Can she rate and finish strong against the toughest field she's faced? I don't know.

I think Dick Dutrow's horse will come off the pace. By The Light is a confusing horse. However anything Dutrow puts on the track in a wide open race merits respect. If a horse is going to win from off the pace why not Fascinatin' Rhythm? It's her home track and she cuts back in distance. Richard Small can still train a horse with his current stats a statistical anomaly. Access Fee looks like a talented filly. I think she has a good chance in this race.

If I had to put in my wager now I'd go 4,5,8 in leg 1.
I'm not sure I want Fascinatin' Rhythm after she was the 2/5 shot who couldn't hold on to kick off the Magna 5 in week 1. Her trainer is certainly capable but he's struggling mightily right now and he has had no success adding blinkers and decides to make that move today.

I think Seventh Street is dicey but beating up on bad horses in allowance races in NY is often just as good as beating mid-range stakes company in the mid-Atlantic. She beat Salt Water Reign two back and that won has scored two in a row since. The biggest question mark on SS is whether she can win a race on a dry surface. She's scored three times on wet tracks which has to make one a bit suspicious.

By the Light was fully stretched to beat a very soft field last time out and is another who's going to be horribly overbet.

If I'm looking to bomb in here it might be with the Mountaineer shipper but I'll use Seventh Street for sure.

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I'm not sure I want Fascinatin' Rhythm after she was the 2/5 shot who couldn't hold on to kick off the Magna 5 in week 1. Her trainer is certainly capable but he's struggling mightily right now and he has had no success adding blinkers and decides to make that move today.

I think Seventh Street is dicey but beating up on bad horses in allowance races in NY is often just as good as beating mid-range stakes company in the mid-Atlantic. She beat Salt Water Reign two back and that won has scored two in a row since. The biggest question mark on SS is whether she can win a race on a dry surface. She's scored three times on wet tracks which has to make one a bit suspicious.

By the Light was fully stretched to beat a very soft field last time out and is another who's going to be horribly overbet.

If I'm looking to bomb in here it might be with the Mountaineer shipper but I'll use Seventh Street for sure.

NT
What about the far outside horse, Access fee? Obviously there's no worries about liking the track. Dutrow's horse has really never run a bad race, and Seventh Street is probably too good to toss. The question mark is the Mountaineer shipper on the rail. Seems like legitimized her class a bit in her last two, but I always feels dicey including Charlestown or Mountaineer shippers at Laurel.
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Old 02-12-2009, 09:31 PM
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I'm not sure I want Fascinatin' Rhythm after she was the 2/5 shot who couldn't hold on to kick off the Magna 5 in week 1. Her trainer is certainly capable but he's struggling mightily right now and he has had no success adding blinkers and decides to make that move today.

I think Seventh Street is dicey but beating up on bad horses in allowance races in NY is often just as good as beating mid-range stakes company in the mid-Atlantic. She beat Salt Water Reign two back and that won has scored two in a row since. The biggest question mark on SS is whether she can win a race on a dry surface. She's scored three times on wet tracks which has to make one a bit suspicious.

By the Light was fully stretched to beat a very soft field last time out and is another who's going to be horribly overbet.

If I'm looking to bomb in here it might be with the Mountaineer shipper but I'll use Seventh Street for sure.

NT
Your points are valid. This was my first impression selections. I reserve the right to change. However the Fritchie looks like the kind of race one could like a different horse each time you cap the race. Seventh Street cost a bundle and McLaughlin is a sharpie. SS might be ratable and I could include her as she has talent and you make a good argument in her favor. Salt Water Reign won on the 7th which was a speed favoring track. She's a decent NY bred inner dirt type. She would not have a chance in a race like this.

As far as Dickie D's nag, I've seen that horse run big from off the pace last spring. While I'm glad I have time to recap this race, I don't what Richard E Dutrow Jr to screw me as I've been screwed when I've left his horses off tickets especially in wide open races. I don't want to play ALL here and if I feel I have no other choice I'll pass on the wager. I don't think ALL is neccessary as we can narrow this down to 3 or 4 which gives us room to spread a bit in the next four races.
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Old 02-12-2009, 09:36 PM
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It is clearly a very fun race and there are a number of ways to go as three of us have made good arguments for four horses and haven't even discussed the probable favorite.

As far as Access Fee, she is clearly in career best form right now and she is working beautifully for this effort. Dream Rush seems to have had some of the runaway speed she showed in the past trained out of her as she's rated in her last two starts. That might be significant for AF because she'll really have to deal only with Now It Begins, who she handled easily last time out.

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It is clearly a very fun race and there are a number of ways to go as three of us have made good arguments for four horses and haven't even discussed the probable favorite.

As far as Access Fee, she is clearly in career best form right now and she is working beautifully for this effort. Dream Rush seems to have had some of the runaway speed she showed in the past trained out of her as she's rated in her last two starts. That might be significant for AF because she'll really have to deal only with Now It Begins, who she handled easily last time out.

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Dream Rush was always speed when she was in top form. Perhaps she's lost a step? West Point made a killing with her during her 3 year old season and sold at the right time. If you look at the 5/25/08 race at Belmont that was a terrible race for DR. As bad as it looks on paper it was even worse watching.

Maybe Access Fee is the one to beat. She has never run a bad race and the off the board finish on the IDT @ Aqueduct she ran wide into fast fractions and had the lead before tiring late. Laurel is her home track.
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Old 02-12-2009, 10:06 PM
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Santa Anita 4th is another toughie. Booted has won sprinting on the grass going 6 and going long stalking a hot pace a 1 1/16. He was a victim of a hot pace in the stakes race as that race fell apart. He looks intersting moving back to a 7f on turn race. Angie Engineer has done little wrong in his three race career. He looks to have a lot of upside and should relish the distance as he climbs the class ladder.
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Dream Rush was always speed when she was in top form. Perhaps she's lost a step? West Point made a killing with her during her 3 year old season and sold at the right time. If you look at the 5/25/08 race at Belmont that was a terrible race for DR. As bad as it looks on paper it was even worse watching.

Maybe Access Fee is the one to beat. She has never run a bad race and the off the board finish on the IDT @ Aqueduct she ran wide into fast fractions and had the lead before tiring late. Laurel is her home track.
I think Dream Rush, at this stage in her career, doesn't want any part of 7F, and running on a track that she's never set foot on is enough for me to toss her. I think the big question is...who will be able to rate. I think there's enough tactical speed so nobody (like the rail horse) will get loose on the lead.
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Santa Anita 4th is another toughie. Booted has won sprinting on the grass going 6 and going long stalking a hot pace a 1 1/16. He was a victim of a hot pace in the stakes race as that race fell apart. He looks intersting moving back to a 7f on turn race. Angie Engineer has done little wrong in his three race career. He looks to have a lot of upside and should relish the distance as he climbs the class ladder.
The only thing that scares me here is Malt Magic. Now in the hands of Mitchell and luring Bejarano, I don't know what to think. There's not a ton of speed here, and if he has him cranked like the last time he came off an extended layoff, he could be hard to catch.
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The only thing that scares me here is Malt Magic. Now in the hands of Mitchell and luring Bejarano, I don't know what to think. There's not a ton of speed here, and if he has him cranked like the last time he came off an extended layoff, he could be hard to catch.

Malt Magic has obviously had serious physical problems. I'm well aware that Mike Mitchell is a miracle worker but I think it's asking an awful of this horse to go 7 after another extended vacation, barn change, breaking from the rail and facing horses who look like they have some ability with sharp recent form.

I might get burned leaving Malt Magic off the ticket. However at some point in these multis you have to take a stand against certain horses.
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